Nuclear Option

Nuclear Option

Pixy Oct 16, 2023 @ 7:27pm
So Does Jamming not Work?
Title. I'm trying to do the Depot Strike mission and I keep getting killed by SARH defenses. Notching and Jamming do nothing. I think the only time I've managed to dodge a SARH missile without breaking LOS was in the tutorial... which I had to do 3 times because the SARH missile kept killing me. I am also notching, flying 90 degrees or as close as I can from the launcher and it does nothing.

Am I just stupid or how are you supposed to deal with SARH air defense?
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B25Mitch  [developer] Oct 16, 2023 @ 7:29pm 
There is a guide for this mission on the developer YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqw8B8SLYGY&t=1s
Finkinator69 Oct 16, 2023 @ 11:27pm 
The missiles are very good. I haven't played the tutorial, but the only way I can break a lock is either with my radar jammer or using terrain. Alternatively you can sometimes shoot the missiles down.
Pixy Oct 17, 2023 @ 9:13am 
I found someone else mentioning that the way Jamming works is by raising the effectiveness of notching, and the minimum altitude for SARH missiles. After trying this mission at way too low of an altitude, skimming over the ocean at 20m or so, I found the launchers couldn't fire at me at all, and when I popped up to engage, jamming worked every time.

So it seems altitude plays a big part in evading SARH missiles, but that wasn't mentioned at all in the tutorial
Sgt_Lobo Oct 17, 2023 @ 9:37pm 
For a long time, I just selected the button that said the radar jammer was there, instead of the flares. It was only recent that I learned I also then needed to push the button to actually activate the jammer, which then emits and annoying noise. And presto! It's also explained a little in the tutorial.
Resyled Oct 23, 2023 @ 3:47pm 
SARH are scary as ♥♥♥♥, if they have LOS to you and there's nothing you have to dive behind or are too high, it's probably gunna kill you. You basically have to fly so they never get shot at you to begin with, while maneuvering to either destroy whatever is launching it, or position yourself so you can do your actual sortie without exposing yourself to it. I've had success using the jammer every time I get hit by a yellow radar return, I'm pretty sure anytime you hear that beep and see that yellow line you're being lined up for either a surface to air missile or a Scythe, if it's JUST the yellow line it's just a radar tower pinging you, if its a yellow line and then a distinctly different BEEP noise a missile is about to be in the air.

I think anyway..
Lizrad Oct 24, 2023 @ 1:50pm 
thx for the info Resyled
NerevarineGMSV Oct 24, 2023 @ 6:58pm 
I thought jammer was kind of useless at first then read more about it and well, practice-makes-perfect. It's important to know what missiles are used by what, and what is on it's way to you. Some can be evaded with flares, others with the jammer. Or just go low behind terrain or object like a building. If it's radar guided missile, you have to turn to an exact right-angle to it's approach to you (not partial, nor just "close enough") then press the jammer button and it should work.

A tactic I use is the hug the terrain and stay out of sight of radar, then pop-up when ready to strike. If I'm a bomber, I will position for a good path for my missiles - so they don't clumsily smash into the side of a mountain or tall hill). I'll use my own bomber as a DECOY against the enemy radar, make myself a juicy target, even going high up to ensure I'm visible. This way, I'm baiting the enemy SAMs to focus on me while my cruise missiles close the distance. When they fire their long-range ones, I'll use the jammer to evade them. I've gotten pretty good at too!

This increases the survivability of my cruise missiles, so when enemy air defenses finally realize "INCOMING!" they have a short-time to respond and my volleys sustain tolerable losses to still inflict devastating damage....

ALSO, I tend to target those very air defense units FIRST, rather than try and hit buildings. Once the air defenses are down, there are even less left to work with to try and stop the volleys from my next run. This way, I don't have to worry about using my jammer or flares as much.
Last edited by NerevarineGMSV; Oct 24, 2023 @ 7:01pm
Bolsh Oct 24, 2023 @ 11:10pm 
only thing that pops to mind is simple but not abvious... do you use up all the jamming while the rocklet is not even fired? You have to jam the radar while the missile is already on its way towards you to disturb its radar
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Date Posted: Oct 16, 2023 @ 7:27pm
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