How do you deal with SAM+Radar?!

[Mel]

Is there somekind of proper method of dealing with Sam launchers and Radar sites that don't involve AGM spam and suicide?

[Ghal Maraz]

Fly very low, staying below 20m radar altitude prevents them from locking missiles and firing. takes some practice but low alt, high speed runs like that are very fun

[Resyled]

don't let it shoot at you lol

[Resyled]

oh you mean how to GET them? literally a canyon run flying at the nape of the earth until you're in a good attack line to fire a swarm of missiles at it, it still involves spam but you don't HAVE to die if you attack in the right direction

you can also lob bombs over hills at it, but they get intercepted a lot

[Strez]

AGM spam or bombs(need to be coming in fast, guns and radar SAMs will intercept bombs if you just lob them from range with CCIP).

Fly low and fast, using terrain to mask yourself, and then spam missiles at radar sites and launchers. Radar sites are more important targets since the R9 Stratolance launchers need those for guidance, while I believe the Boltstrike radar SAMs are shorter range but carry their own radar. So knocking out towers and radar trucks should make the Stratolances useless. It shouldn't be a suicide mission if you plan it right. You could probably even sneak in a 1.5kt nuke alongside your missiles, if you're running the Compass(Revoker can carry 2 nukes but not enough missiles for SEAD). Even if the AGMs don't take out the target, they serve as distractions so the bomb will get through

The other alternative? Full Blast-Frag cruise missile spam from a bomber to whittle away at the ADN, and then rearm with mix of nukes and blast-frags. Bonus if you launch from weird angles so fighters don't notice and try to intercept.

[aG| Wardog]

I've been finding that loading a Cricket with rockets, then using terrain for cover until I'm within 5km, then locking onto the radar and its defences, and firing a volley usually does the trick. Can take a little while, and there's always the risk that enemy aircraft will try to intercept, but you can load a couple of MMR-S3s on the Cricket as well, to counter that.

[MacrossMX]

when using the Cricket or Chicane, rockets are a good weapon to use against radars and SAMs. you get 7 rockets/pod, which allow you to spam rockets to overwhelm the SAM's ability to intercept.

If you want a long range option, use the AGM-68 from the Compass, Revoker, or Darkreach.

[Strez]

Originally posted by MacrossMX:

when using the Cricket or Chicane, rockets are a good weapon to use against radars and SAMs. you get 7 rockets/pod, which allow you to spam rockets to overwhelm the SAM's ability to intercept.

If you want a long range option, use the AGM-68 from the Compass, Revoker, or Darkreach.

I think AGM-48s are better options than AGM-68s for well-defended areas, since the higher volume is much more useful than the extended range of the 68s, which just gives them more time to get intercepted. 68s are great for plinking tanks or far-away targets with only light defense(radar stations that aren't tied to specific SAM battery, etc)

[Xenomorphine]

This game is apparently badly in need of modelling electronic warfare and stealth capabilities.

[Strez]

The next aircraft they plan to add is an EW craft with better jamming, ARMs, and an anti-missile laser.

[Xenomorphine]

Originally posted by Strez:

The next aircraft they plan to add is an EW craft with better jamming, ARMs, and an anti-missile laser.

Anti-missile/drone energy weapon emulation is very good news! There has been one already mounted on a US warship for several years (ironically, the first had a Captain Kirk in charge of it) and Israel's Iron Beam system is getting closer to passing through testing. They're something which is a lot closer to casual battlefield use than most think.

[Cmdr. George Rockwell]

Originally posted by Strez:

The next aircraft they plan to add is an EW craft with better jamming, ARMs, and an anti-missile laser.

A laser?! Hopefully it will be similar or the same as defense suites currently employed in the real world. Anti-missile defense lasers only exist on helicopters as far as I am aware.

[Cmdr. George Rockwell]

Originally posted by Xenomorphine:

Originally posted by Strez:

The next aircraft they plan to add is an EW craft with better jamming, ARMs, and an anti-missile laser.

Anti-missile/drone energy weapon emulation is very good news! There has been one already mounted on a US warship for several years (ironically, the first had a Captain Kirk in charge of it) and Israel's Iron Beam system is getting closer to passing through testing. They're something which is a lot closer to casual battlefield use than most think.

High powered laser tech is literally no where close to becoming small, or effeficiant enough to fit on fighter sized aircraft or really anything smaller than a 747. The anti-missile lasers that do exist do not use heat to destroy a missile, the laser is used to blind the seeker at the tip of the missile.

[Xenomorphine]

Originally posted by clappn_cheekz:

Originally posted by Strez:

The next aircraft they plan to add is an EW craft with better jamming, ARMs, and an anti-missile laser.

A laser?! Hopefully it will be similar or the same as defense suites currently employed in the real world. Anti-missile defense lasers only exist on helicopters as far as I am aware.

Think Israeli airliners also have them. Although, keep in mind, they aren't necessarily used to destroy missiles, so much as dazzle and neutralise the sensors.

Originally posted by clappn_cheekz:

Originally posted by Xenomorphine:

Anti-missile/drone energy weapon emulation is very good news! There has been one already mounted on a US warship for several years (ironically, the first had a Captain Kirk in charge of it) and Israel's Iron Beam system is getting closer to passing through testing. They're something which is a lot closer to casual battlefield use than most think.

High powered laser tech is literally no where close to becoming small, or effeficiant enough to fit on fighter sized aircraft or really anything smaller than a 747. The anti-missile lasers that do exist do not use heat to destroy a missile, the laser is used to blind the seeker at the tip of the missile.

This is a game which deals with 'near future' emulation.

If they're bringing in this, then they should also bring in the offensive and defensive capabilities of AESA, too, which no other game has yet attempted doing.