how much pay to win is this game

[no jobs & no women]

how much pay to win is this game when compared to other games with same genres (rpg with auto farm, made for mobile, etc)

[glaphen]

It's pay to win but you would need to pay obscene prices to truly pay to win at all, the game overprices everything and gives you lots of stupid very low time limited packs for extremely high "value" like 1400% value packs for completing a one time thing which aren't the worst and highly tempting and the monthly passes seem pretty good for the price but some event ones are worthless scams, they know how to market to drain your wallet, definitely the most skillful marketing I've seen. But the game also drowns you in paid currency, you get 300 a day which is like 2.5 dollars "worth" from just from a daily, having decent PvP rating will give you a ton weekly and seasonally, can easily combine them for over 700 crystals a day of income without much effort, but they also only charge hard cash for most shop items but they are all overpriced as ♥♥♥♥ so those "paid" currency will mainly be used to do more limited run resets, which are extremely cheap for a single refresh or two but third or fourth if it can is not worth it most of the time. Events also drown you in them, and so many one time bonuses for doing practically anything. Even if you pay 1000s you might not get a light/dark 5 star, let alone the one you want, all obscenely low RNG you really can't pay for and it's not like those are guaranteed to be better than the elemental, even 4 stars can be better than 5 stars.

[Iaruzaski]

"it's pay to win" this is the reason why people make people die.

Originally posted by glaphen:

It's pay to win but you would need to pay obscene prices to truly pay to win at all, the game overprices everything and gives you lots of stupid very low time limited packs for extremely high "value" like 1400% value packs for completing a one time thing which aren't the worst and highly tempting and the monthly passes seem pretty good for the price but some event ones are worthless scams, they know how to market to drain your wallet, definitely the most skillful marketing I've seen. But the game also drowns you in paid currency, you get 300 a day which is like 2.5 dollars "worth" from just from a daily, having decent PvP rating will give you a ton weekly and seasonally, can easily combine them for over 700 crystals a day of income without much effort, but they also only charge hard cash for most shop items but they are all overpriced as ♥♥♥♥ so those "paid" currency will mainly be used to do more limited run resets, which are extremely cheap for a single refresh or two but third or fourth if it can is not worth it most of the time. Events also drown you in them, and so many one time bonuses for doing practically anything. Even if you pay 1000s you might not get a light/dark 5 star, let alone the one you want, all obscenely low RNG you really can't pay for and it's not like those are guaranteed to be better than the elemental, even 4 stars can be better than 5 stars.

[sa7rawi]

xD

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Iaruzaski:

"it's pay to win" this is the reason why people make people die.

Why don't you tell me how it's not pay to win, I was only talking of summons, not even mentioning the possibility of buying auction house currency or the paid only outfits that give permanent stats, want 300 summoner health, that'll be $18, want 37 Archer attack, that'll be $18 in the next 12 days or wait until next year, want 36 more Archer attack $48, no time limit, 434 Assassin health $18, the other 2 are $48 but you can at least craft them in the future, not now though. Then you can also buy more devilmon and other ♥♥♥♥, account levels are practically impossible for F2P past like 50 but every purchase gives you them, not to mention although F2P might eventually max a book for 3 5 star summons, someone paying can do it easily. At least transmogs for monsters don't do anything and are pay to lose since it's a BAN ME PLEASE in brawl arena.