Isn't 4* fire inferno better than both 5* fire desert queen and 3* fire fairy??

[Sceles]

I'm not getting this. I understand how Iselia(fire fairy) is recommended due to it being easy to get and upgrade, but Sekhmet(fire desert queen) requires insane amount of investment to get better than Iselia and it's not even THAT much better. There are other cheaper and more spammable ways to strip beneficial effects and silence isn't very useful because it only works on passives. Tagaros(fire inferno) has the same kind of spammable AoE as those two with nearly identical damage, same cooldown and same cost, but it also applies def down. IMHO it just seems like straight up better.

[Kolopaper]

1. There are 30 buffs in the game that can be striped by Sekhmet while Iselia focuses in 2 certain buffs only. Sekhmet also benefits greatly from these buffs, because she steals them instead of just removing. That is a massive difference in buff count and you need to take into account, that if the enemy has immunity(which is important in pvp) you cannot remove any buffs with iselia, whereas with Sekhmet you can bypass the immunity by stealing it.

2. Attack multipliers are way higher on Sekhmet instead of Iselia. 640 vs 1000(rounded) on 2nd skill, and 600 vs 700(rounded) on the 1st skill. While the 1st skill does not have a massive difference, it's still mostly the 2nd skill that counts in most monsters and it makes a big difference.

3. Oblivion is the one that stops the passives, which is very usefull against a lot of pvp monsters. Silence, stop the skills which is more applicable than oblivion overall.

4. As for Tagaros, again sekhmet can diss out way more damage and has a way better kit overall. Tagaros is nothing impressive to be honest.

5. I get the feeling that you are confusing the roles of the monsters. Iselia is recommended as a starter monster because story is very easy, and she can get plenty of power easily without a lot of investment, while Sekhmet is an amazing pvp monster which you will not be needing for a lot of time(depending on your progress/money). Their roles are totally different. First you go PvE and then PvP.

6. Last but not least, when you talk about pvp(Sekhmet in this example) you are talking about going against other players that are also progressing along with you. Of course you need a lot of invsetement for Sekhmet and that goes for all 5*. But when you build her, you will thank yourself in the long run.

[Sceles]

Originally posted by Kolopaper:

1. There are 30 buffs in the game that can be striped by Sekhmet while Iselia focuses in 2 certain buffs only. Sekhmet also benefits greatly from these buffs, because she steals them instead of just removing. That is a massive difference in buff count and you need to take into account, that if the enemy has immunity(which is important in pvp) you cannot remove any buffs with iselia, whereas with Sekhmet you can bypass the immunity by stealing it.

2. Attack multipliers are way higher on Sekhmet instead of Iselia. 640 vs 1000(rounded) on 2nd skill, and 600 vs 700(rounded) on the 1st skill. While the 1st skill does not have a massive difference, it's still mostly the 2nd skill that counts in most monsters and it makes a big difference.

3. Oblivion is the one that stops the passives, which is very usefull against a lot of pvp monsters. Silence, stop the skills which is more applicable than oblivion overall.

4. As for Tagaros, again sekhmet can diss out way more damage and has a way better kit overall. Tagaros is nothing impressive to be honest.

5. I get the feeling that you are confusing the roles of the monsters. Iselia is recommended as a starter monster because story is very easy, and she can get plenty of power easily without a lot of investment, while Sekhmet is an amazing pvp monster which you will not be needing for a lot of time(depending on your progress/money). Their roles are totally different. First you go PvE and then PvP.

6. Last but not least, when you talk about pvp(Sekhmet in this example) you are talking about going against other players that are also progressing along with you. Of course you need a lot of invsetement for Sekhmet and that goes for all 5*. But when you build her, you will thank yourself in the long run.

So TL;DR "Tagaros is nothing impressive to be honest" and Sekhmet deals more damage herp derp.

Got it.

[glaphen]

They all do different things, I don't see how any replaces the other, it depends entirely on the rest of your ♥♥♥♥, what summoner and weapon element, what the other 2 are bringing. If you really need AoE defense down and stun, maybe burn, Fire Elemental is good, if you need to remove a single targets beneficial effects or silence or can ultimate Fire Desert Queen is good, but if you are bringing a Wind Polar Queen, she is obviously superior in AoE beneficial effect stripping, but you can still combine them to easily silence everything in an AoE but you'll lose your single target defense down chance, can also easily generate ult with Polar and use Desert for big AoE burst, or if you are using Tina you can strip 2 already in an AoE with 3rd wind skill, but that also gives ACC buff with 2nd to land silence more and combined with the RES down from 3rd skill, it's all based on what combos well for what you are against.