1x1 Foundation Mixer - Use 2 per full paint space belt?

[BaronTox]

I finally got to paint mixing and started playing with mixers.
Got my first 1x1 completed with 3 x 8 mixers fed from 2 x 12 paint launchers. Needed some internet help because I thought 6 mixers was enough to fill a pipe, which is wrong... 6 x 900 is 5400, not 7200... hope a few blueprint people read this and fix their stuff.
Anyway, launchers on my platform where the next issue, since they limit flow of a pipe to 1800L or 4 mixers (450 per input).

So, now that I have this cool 1x1 to Mix 450L x 8 mixers I just realized that my OUTPUT is 900L so 7200 or a full pipe. DOH, I am wasting half the INPUT.

Am I correct? when using a 1x1 mixer that has 24 launcher inputs and 12 launcher outputs, that I am only using half of the inputs and should just spread the 2 input paint lanes across 2 of these 1x1 mixer foundation?

Need to go test it... but my brain hurts now, need to go take an FPS break :)

[zaqrt]

I have never encountered this problem. The whole liter and flow system in the game is superfluous, the easiest way is to treat all the paint machines as stackers you need one paint belt for one shape belt. This way you will avoid all the problems with the capacity and flow of pipes. Pipes are belts are the best advice

[zaqrt]

the same as for mixers one belt/pipe of red and one belt/pipe of blue for purple etc

[elidoran]

PIpes and paint are significantly different from shapes and belts. Fun. And different. A shape belt goes thru an input/output at the same speed and goes into a single lane in a space belt, which holds 12, just like the platform has 12 IO ports. It's nice and simple. One space belt feeds one group of 12 platform IO ports.

Space pipes have 12 pipelines and each holds 10800 L/m of paint. When a space pipe is connected to a platform IO it has to go thru a fluid launcher which limits the paint to 1800 L/m per IO port. 1/6th of the 10800 L/m that pipeline handles.

It's possible to combine 4 of the IO ports together into a regular pipe which holds 7200 L/m. And run it around. That can handle 16x painters. However, any place where a fluid launcher is helpful, watch out, because it hits you with the 1800 L/m limit. And 1800 L/m handles 4x painters, so, it's generally workable.

This also means only 2/3rds (7200) of 3 pipelines (3 x 10800) of a space pipe can fit thru a single group of 12 platform IO ports. Then, those 3 pipelines have 3600 more. So, a space pipe can fully feed four groups of 12 platform IO ports and then half feed another four groups. The halves could be combined into only 6 pipelines and fully feed 2 more groups of platform IO ports. It's an example of the extra complexity of paint.

It's quite different than shapes on belts and space belts.

Also, train collectors will hold packages of 1080 shapes. They hold 10800 L of paint. That's 1.5 times the limit of a regular pipe, and equal to a single pipeline of a space pipe.

A 1x1 platform only needs half input for each of the two colors to produce a full output of the mix. So, 6 red and 6 blue will produce 12 magenta and fill the output.

A 1x2 platform can accept full inputs (2 x 12) of both colors and output two full outputs (2 x 12) of the mix.

Keep in mind, when you input 1 red, and 1 blue, and mix them, you get 2 magenta. Both the original paints still exist. It's just, when put together, each of them transforms to magenta, so you have 2 magenta. Then, if you mix 1 of that magenta with a green, you get white. If you use both (2) magentas in two mixers with 1 green in each mixer (2) you'll get 2 white, 1 from each mixer.


Below is a screenshot for a 1x1 mixer, and below that is a 1x2 mixer.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3319191459
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3319191085

(edited to correct space pipes handling 10800 L/m per pipeline, not 7200)

[BaronTox]

Thank you for the response, greatly appreciated.
That 1x2 is a nice simple design, appreciate that one!