Ratio for Color Mixers

[Angel el Bizco]

So I’m a bit confused for the color mixers I designed a whole blueprint without testing and I guess I understood the ratios wrong.

The mixers say it’s 2 mixers per launcher, so does that mean 2 mixers for each set of colors and then 2 launcher worths come out?

[elidoran]

Each mixer wants 1 input per the two colors you're going to mix. And then outputs 2 of the mixed result.

It says one launcher can support 2 mixers, because together, two mixers have a total of 4 inputs, and that's what a launcher can handle.

Truth is, we don't put all 4 of the same thing into the two mixers, right? So, actually a launcher supports 4 mixers by going into only one input for each of the four mixers. Then, a second launcher, with a different paint, goes into the other four inputs, one for each mixer.

So, two launchers, of different paints, supports 4 mixers, and they output 2 of the mix each, which is 8 total units of mixed paint produced, which can be sent out with two launchers.

[Angel el Bizco]

Originally posted by elidoran:

Each mixer wants 1 input per the two colors you're going to mix. And then outputs 2 of the mixed result.

It says one launcher can support 2 mixers, because together, two mixers have a total of 4 inputs, and that's what a launcher can handle.

Truth is, we don't put all 4 of the same thing into the two mixers, right? So, actually a launcher supports 4 mixers by going into only one input for each of the four mixers. Then, a second launcher, with a different paint, goes into the other four inputs, one for each mixer.

So, two launchers, of different paints, supports 4 mixers, and they output 2 of the mix each, which is 8 total units of mixed paint produced, which can be sent out with two launchers.

So one of each color pipe going into 4 mixers and then I can output 2 separate pipes of the mixed color out of each pair of mixers.

My blueprint was wrong because I assumed the 2 supported launchers meant 1 of each color.

Thanks for the clarification.

[CaptainFlint]

Minor correction: output is not 2 pipes, it's 2 launchers' worth of paint, you can fit them into 1 pipe (because a pipe can transport paint from 4 launchers).

[elidoran]

Thank you, @CaptainFlint. I also want to expand that to say the regular pipes specify they have a limit of four launchers worth, but, it'll actually transport as much paint as you can give it, between launchers/catchers. For proof, see the following two screenshots:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3338850493

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3336778865

I submitted feedback on this to the suggestions/feedback website, but, there's been no response for three weeks, so far.

[CaptainFlint]

Yeah, I chose not to mention that and use the "official" 4 launchers per pipe ratio. AFAIK, it's a known bug about infinite throughput. In my factory I decided not to rely on it, because there's a high chance it will be fixed in the next update, and all the blueprint that rely on more launchers per pipe will break.

[elidoran]

I hear ya, except, no response from my feedback, and from those who originally discovered it a month earlier than that. I agree with you it seems like a bug, but, no devs have said "yup, that's a bug and we'll fix it". Maybe they said something on Discord, but, I don't use Discord. Have you seen an official response on it somewhere?

[CaptainFlint]

Yes, I found a report on Discord, and Tobias (the developer, tobspr) replied there:

For the record, we pretend they have a throughput limit for now (to not confuse players) but they don't have one right now. As we plan to add that though, consider the limit a given for now

[elidoran]

Awesome. Thank you.

[Angel el Bizco]

Originally posted by CaptainFlint:

Minor correction: output is not 2 pipes, it's 2 launchers' worth of paint, you can fit them into 1 pipe (because a pipe can transport paint from 4 launchers).

Mmmh I’ve been trying to keep my designs simple with 1 pipe per launcher that splits off to feed machine to the specified ratio.

I just unlocked crystallization so I’ll keep the pipe thoroughput in mind if it helps making cleaner designs