Impossible First Level

[Just Smile]

So I was pretty hyped when I saw the early access and bought the game.
I expected something along the lines of difficulty and customizability like Choo Choo Survivor.

But here the problems became appearant.
Let's take choo choo survivor as a comparison as it is also a zombie horde survival game.

Starting Weapon

Doom Sweeper
Sniper with autofire ability as explained by the game, but only shoots every 7 to 10 sec, as soon as the squid girl horde appears the game is lost as you can't kill them quick enough to get some breathing room as you have not yet leveled up to recieve any bonus traits or buy anything.
Choo Choo Survivor
Shooting speed is dependend on the weapon. a weapon with explosives will shoot slower than a rifle, but still be able to keep zombies away from you.

Exp Gain

Doom Sweeper
The exp gain is too low per zombie killed, as the weapon used has an extreme high reload time, no penetration ability and also no speacial effects like aoe or dot.
Choo Choo Survivor
The exp gain per zombie is low, but the shot speed of the main weapon ensures that you can recieve enough exp to lvl up before you are overwhelmed by the horde.

Traits / Items

Doom Sweeper
I can't say anyhting about them as I have not yet managed to level up even once before reaching a game over.
Choo Choo Survivor
Traits reach from weapon upgrades, to support upgrades. Items are depending on if they were unlocked before, but can reach from health upgrades to improved damage capabilites for a small time period.

Survivors

Doom Sweeper
Here they only seem to exist to count as health for your armoured vehicle and to be taken out if a zombie comes to clsoe to be killed by the horde.
Choo Choo Survivor
Here you can use the collected survivors to improve shot speed, damage, resistance to debuffs all up to a limit of around 10%.

Conclusion

Overall I feel the potential of the game, but the build of the game right now is not fun and causes frustration in a short amount of time because you can't even finish the first level and you would have to survive 20minutes, but can't even reach 5. I hope we get an improvement just to the shooting speed of the main weapon which could already change the game for the better.

[IchigoMait]

Beat the first level on 3rd try (barely got hit), 2nd try with the bullets.
Got halfway on first try (15 achievements).

So dunno what you're on about it being impossible.

[Yuki_c]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Beat the first level on 3rd try (barely got hit), 2nd try with the bullets.
Got halfway on first try (15 achievements).

So dunno what you're on about it being impossible.
Just don't take the incendiary bomb, and hold the shooting button down when you get the missile bombs, you get more missile hits per missile launch.

What you have played is the level that has been modified in response to this feedback.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by Yukichi_ys:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Beat the first level on 3rd try (barely got hit), 2nd try with the bullets.
Got halfway on first try (15 achievements).

So dunno what you're on about it being impossible.
Just don't take the incendiary bomb, and hold the shooting button down when you get the missile bombs, you get more missile hits per missile launch.

What you have played is the level that has been modified in response to this feedback.

Thank you for that, now it's pretty easy and fun.

You can take my post as a feedback.

[Just Smile]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Beat the first level on 3rd try (barely got hit), 2nd try with the bullets.
Got halfway on first try (15 achievements).

So dunno what you're on about it being impossible.
Just don't take the incendiary bomb, and hold the shooting button down when you get the missile bombs, you get more missile hits per missile launch.

Could you explain how you managed to get past the first 2 waves, I already made over 10 attempts, but after the update I can't even kill the first zombie that spawns when you start the level, before they manage to reach the tank.

I tried it in both the normal game and also the [healthy] beta, but got no success.

So how did you do it? Did you change something in the game code, did you just get lucky what did you do with the first girl which spawns together with the first zombie?
Is there a possibility to upload game play or do I have to record me playing the game so I can show that it is not possible for me get past the 5th zombie that spawns?

[cero d]

マシンガン、毒ガス、電撃、ブレード、サウンドアタックを取得したら楽です。
マシンガン、毒ガスは序盤安定するので最優先で取得したほうが良いです。
焼夷弾、火炎放射は弱いので、あと１つはミサイルかレーザーを取得してください。

レベルアップは、マシンガン、電撃を優先したほうが良いです。

マシンガンは、現状最強武器です。
電撃"Electromagnetic Cannon"、ブレード"Metal Inferno"とのシナジーがチートレベルです。

[Yuki_c]

Originally posted by cero d:

マシンガン、毒ガス、電撃、ブレード、サウンドアタックを取得したら楽です。
マシンガン、毒ガスは序盤安定するので最優先で取得したほうが良いです。
焼夷弾、火炎放射は弱いので、あと１つはミサイルかレーザーを取得してください。

レベルアップは、マシンガン、電撃を優先したほうが良いです。

マシンガンは、現状最強武器です。
電撃"Electromagnetic Cannon"、ブレード"Metal Inferno"とのシナジーがチートレベルです。

The machine gun is powerful but very subtle unless you get the ricochet update....

[Yuki_c]

Originally posted by Just Smile:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Beat the first level on 3rd try (barely got hit), 2nd try with the bullets.
Got halfway on first try (15 achievements).

So dunno what you're on about it being impossible.
Just don't take the incendiary bomb, and hold the shooting button down when you get the missile bombs, you get more missile hits per missile launch.

Could you explain how you managed to get past the first 2 waves, I already made over 10 attempts, but after the update I can't even kill the first zombie that spawns when you start the level, before they manage to reach the tank.

I tried it in both the normal game and also the [healthy] beta, but got no success.

So how did you do it? Did you change something in the game code, did you just get lucky what did you do with the first girl which spawns together with the first zombie?
Is there a possibility to upload game play or do I have to record me playing the game so I can show that it is not possible for me get past the 5th zombie that spawns?

(1) Pray that you can pick up a machine gun or flamethrower before the girl zombies arrive. (These will serve as decoys.)
(2) Strengthen the machine gun and pray it evolves. (You can evolve it by getting the golden enhancement item and the red box dropped by the boss.)
(3) Pray for "Penetration & CT Down" to come with the gun enhancement.

You will need luck until you can buy the enhancement items at the store.
Also, even if you fulfill all the above, the difficulty level is just barely clear.

[IchigoMait]

Disable the freedom and justice if it's enabled, only enable it when you want the achievements for maxing 'em out and the combo upgrade, plus the chest upgrade think too maybe matters.

Otherwise just get whatever you want, if you get an option for an upgrade chose that instead of a new weapon. If you're good with aim, it doesn't matter what you get at first, the justice and freedom though suck, even at max, plus less chances to upgrade what you actually want.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112491223

Also getting your own character to max (after getting the piercing dmg) through blue upgrades, basically allows you to kill everything if you proc the chain gun effect, just by waving around your mouse and all the other weapons are just for the sake when you're on the downtime.

[Just Smile]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Disable the freedom and justice if it's enabled, only enable it when you want the achievements for maxing 'em out and the combo upgrade, plus the chest upgrade think too maybe matters.

Otherwise just get whatever you want, if you get an option for an upgrade chose that instead of a new weapon. If you're good with aim, it doesn't matter what you get at first, the justice and freedom though suck, even at max, plus less chances to upgrade what you actually want.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112491223

Also getting your own character to max (after getting the piercing dmg) through blue upgrades, basically allows you to kill everything if you proc the chain gun effect, just by waving around your mouse and all the other weapons are just for the sake when you're on the downtime.

Where is that option "freedom and justice" located since I can't find it.
Here are a few pictures from the game version I use that I downloaded from steam
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621130
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621215
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621287
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621397

Here are my start stats and how my round went after pressing start. I failed to even kill one single zombie even though I managed to hit every shot I could squeeze out after the 7sec reload time. Even holding left mouse button is not helping as the shot only come every 7 seconds.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621583
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621795
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112622073

At this point I have no more ideas on how to even reach a possible level up.

[cero d]

level:EXだから参考にならないかもしれないけど、動画アップロードしたよ
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112649894

[Yuki_c]

Originally posted by Just Smile:

Where is that option "freedom and justice" located since I can't find it.
Here are a few pictures from the game version I use that I downloaded from steam
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621130
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621215
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621287
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112621397

At this point I have no more ideas on how to even reach a possible level up.

...？Why isn't there any...?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112688236

[cero d]

別PCにインストールして確認したところ、level:Dをクリアすると表示されました。
クリアするために１度だけプレイしましたが、freedomとjusticeはレベルアップの選択に出てきませんでした。
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112723648
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112724208

[Shintuan]

Reading your post something sounds very wrong with the performance. You should be able to fire 1 shot of the rifle every 1 second or so with left click. Does your pc spec meet the minimum requirements for the game? If so try either reinstalling the game or verifying the integrity of the game files. Right click the game. Go into Properties>Installed Files>Verify integrity of game files.

[Just Smile]

Originally posted by Shintuan:

Reading your post something sounds very wrong with the performance. You should be able to fire 1 shot of the rifle every 1 second or so with left click. Does your pc spec meet the minimum requirements for the game? If so try either reinstalling the game or verifying the integrity of the game files. Right click the game. Go into Properties>Installed Files>Verify integrity of game files.

Here are the requirements for the game
OS *: Windows 7+
Processor: 2 Ghz
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: 128MB, OpenGL 3+
Storage: 500 MB available space

and here is my PC set up
OS: Windows 10
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Memory: 32 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeFroce RTX 2070
Storage: over 1 TB on my HDD & 800 GB on my SSD

So I went ahead and deinstalled it, reinstalled it on HDD and ran it again. still nothing.
Then I went ahead verified my game files, all game files verified, started the the game and the problem still persists.
Deinstalled it again, reinstalled it on my HDD ran it and still only one shot every 7 sec

Any other possible solutions?

[Sosich]

I have the exact same problem. Reload takes forever, which makes the game unplayable. Perhaps there are different versions of the game (review, beta testing, etc.) and one simply wasn't updated properly?