Best character for killing?

[x Princess Leliana x]

The black chick has more ammo so guns will be better, the other guy has essentially infinite throwing weapons, but then again, melee people would never run out, so who shoud i take?

[Honor Guard]

Originally posted by kotekzot:

None of those things make him a better character for killing, or for a skilled player. The fact that John is unspecialized only makes him mediocre in all situations. Unless you can make an independently verifiable claim that shows he is capable of killing enemies at the same or higher rate as Xian, anything you say is meaningless in the context of this discussion.

INDENTPANT MATE ,NO SKILL OF USER INVOLVED

and he can kill enemies just as fast or faster (this is how you are going kind of )



anyways you losed,don't be a cry baby

i have a life to live and apparently you don't now grow up kiddo

also You have not listed any counter arguements to my reason,your just repeating yourself


being specizated makes your charater weaker in other areas thereby she good with blades but not as good with other weapons

[kotekzot]

Actually, I have provided counterarguments for all the arguments you've listed on the previous pages. Lrn2read.

A character doesn't need to be good with all weapons to be great at killing, your argument is invalid.

[Honor Guard]

Originally posted by kotekzot:

Actually, I have provided counterarguments for all the arguments you've listed on the previous pages. Lrn2read.

A character doesn't need to be good with all weapons to be great at killing, your argument is invalid.

No but a charater who is specilated is not good with all but that one time

so she a glass cannon which a ram can put down before she can use her damage


no you haven't you complained ,NOW i say don't be a cry baby and shut up ,i won you losed ,fair is fair

if you comment again you have losed and got no life so stop

[kotekzot]

Being great with one type of weapon is better than being mediocre with all types of weapons for the purposes of most efficient zombie killing.

A ram cannot kill Xian in one strike, your argument is invalid.

Read the thread from the start, I've provided valid counterarguments for all of your arguments.

P.S. saying "i won you losed" is not how you win an argument.

[lucent]

I can kill anything with a flare gun...I win!

[Aurelion Sass]

"The black chick"?? Racist...

[lucent]

I guess we shouldn't call them zombies, we should call them challenged corpses...hahaha

[The Knight of Faerie]

Originally posted by kotekzot:

John doesn't actually have any skills that make him more effective than Xian with weapons in general, apart from a small durability boost to one handed weapons.

Still reading the thread buuuut... John does get a skill which allows him to level weapon skills faster. Thus with the same investiment in time, he's typically got a higher skill rating with any given weapon then Xian would. This means more overall damage. And since he can get a skill for increased durability on one handed weapons, that's again letting him use all his best weapons longer then Xian could. She's only really effective with blades in that regard.

Health regen can be huge too. Especially when slugging it out with a thug.

As for having broken weapons, sometimes it just happens. You've not found a work station in a while, your prized modded and max upgraded weapons have taken a lot of damage, and you don't want them to break. So you switch weapons. But to what? Opening your inventory to swap them out would take too long. You're low on bullets so equipping a gun wouldn't be wise. Well, you can always punch things. Right?

[The Knight of Faerie]

Originally posted by kotekzot:

Your claim that John can reliably kill non-special infected in one strike is not backed up, and no amount of preposterous scenarios you concoct (why the ♥♥♥♥ would one find himself without weapons?) is going to change that.

It's perfectly backed up. EVERYONE can reliably kill non-special infected in one strike. If you aim right and the weapon does enough damage, you can do so with a hammer when playing Xian. You can do so with a firearm if you're aim is good. You can chop heads off with Sam B even though he specializes in blunt weapons. Hell, you can chop heads off as a new character using Sam B if you're using a chef's knife. Puma can take any melee weapon and get a one hit kill, even though she specializes in firearms. Logan can do the same even though he specializes in throwing things.

The ability to smash/remove heads is more about aim and weapon type then it is character. Certain skills might make it easier. Other skills might give nice perks when you do so. But everyone can do it.

[lucent]

You're so right, it is about aim and weapon type then it is character.

I'm playing SamB and I am at the Fortress 89% done with the game. I really don't feel that much more safe. I am comfortable with my character, but the threat is still there which makes the game just as intense.

If I get sloppy and smacked around, my health is gone quick. I don't feel like an all powerful tank character even at this point of the game.

With the floaters, a blade weapon seems so much quicker. But you have to aim just at the top of their heads to cut them off clean. Then with other zombies, I am smashing away as I should be with my character.

Maybe my weapons arn't the best, but I do see the difference in tactics.

[❤ MILLS]

xian is the better for me

[kotekzot]

Originally posted by The Knight of Faerie:

Originally posted by kotekzot:

John doesn't actually have any skills that make him more effective than Xian with weapons in general, apart from a small durability boost to one handed weapons.

Still reading the thread buuuut... John does get a skill which allows him to level weapon skills faster. Thus with the same investiment in time, he's typically got a higher skill rating with any given weapon then Xian would. This means more overall damage. And since he can get a skill for increased durability on one handed weapons, that's again letting him use all his best weapons longer then Xian could. She's only really effective with blades in that regard.

Health regen can be huge too. Especially when slugging it out with a thug.

As for having broken weapons, sometimes it just happens. You've not found a work station in a while, your prized modded and max upgraded weapons have taken a lot of damage, and you don't want them to break. So you switch weapons. But to what? Opening your inventory to swap them out would take too long. You're low on bullets so equipping a gun wouldn't be wise. Well, you can always punch things. Right?

It does not take much time to reach level 10 in a given weapon type, at which point the points you've invested in John's weapon experience skill are wasted.

Xian has 2 durability skills (sharp and modified), so her weapons are going to last even longer than John's, your argument is invalid.

There are 9 weapon slots, opening the inventory in the middle of battle because all 9 of your weapons have become unusable should never be a thing.

If health regen is a factor when fighting thugs for you, then you need to suck less at the game. Their attacks are ridiculously easy to avoid, especially if you cut off the thug's arm with your god-tier sharp weapons specialist.

[Fireandsteel]

Originally posted by kotekzot:

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Johns uppercut with fully upgraded brass is arguably one of the most powerful moves. When you can send zombies unrealistically flying 30 metres you have something great.
John is great at fighting solo in groups of zombies. Run kick also sends them flying. I have always found his style to be.. Punch/jump kick the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ till they have no stamina. Then squash their heads.

[Godsheal Powerloader]

Basically:
Logan: Best fury in the game, best sustain if you ignore medkits, Best reusable burst-damage mechanism with some fallback option when he's outta stuff to throw (yes, it happens. Who says boomerang gives him infinite throwing never really played him)

Xian: A ton of melee damage. Better used for parties to take the aggro off her.

Morgan: The most brainless character. Keep punching and regenrerating and you are almost invincible. If surrounded, fury.

Sam B: Made almost obsolete by morgan in the expansion. Can still draw aggro and crowd control, at least.

Purna: Requires some resource management, but bullets are way more plentiful in riptide than before

[lucent]

"Purna: Requires some resource management, but bullets are way more plentiful in riptide than before"

Since I beat the game already, I watched a video walk through by RadBrad on the ending.

He is playing Puma and said this game was easier than Dead Island, at least in single player. I guess because there is more ammo or he knew how to mod better, just a better player all around I guess.

I was skipping through the video some, but basically he was playing with a katana and shotgun. Powerful shotgun at that.

But get this, he levels at 46 after the big fight so you get to see him go into his skill tree. Paused the video, lets take a look at what he did....omg!

Besides having 3 skills in fury, it looked like he just filled up combat + survival as he went along. The bottom 2 rows in skill choices were empty and all the ones above were full.

Don't people usually go through the tree first, to get to the powerful skills at the bottom? Then as you get higher levels, you pick the skills you passed by, right?

I'm surprised he said the game was easy, after building a character that way. I guess we all have different experiences with the game.