What's with some Persona "fans" seething about optional mods?

[FinnishPoner]

Some guy made a mod that changes Yukari's body to make her "look more corpulent, more stuffed where the eyes can't escape" and the "fans" got so angry about it that they got Nexus and Gamebanana to take it down from their sites.

It's still on LoversLab but no idea if it stays up there either when you remember their history of taking down mods like Fire Emblem Engage mod that fixed it's localization.

I'm truly confused why would anyone get so angry about optional mods that you're not obligated to look at or download? Why shouldn't people be allowed to create any kinds of mods they wan't with a game they bought with their own money and share it with other people who may also enjoy them? Why are you purposely searching for mods that you clearly hate and then get mad when you see them and harass the creators and anyone who uses them? What's the point?

This mod didn't even remove nor changed her clothes, probably one of the most tamest mods i have ever seen and it still somehow made people angry. Do Persona "fans" even know that the games have a lot more wilder and lewdier outfits that Atlus themselves put in there?

Also, the fact that mod sites also remove mods that they don't like, find offensive or under pressure is highly concerning for the future of freedom of speech and creativity in video games.

We are at the point of Games Code Authority were mods are being banned for simply making a female character slightly more attractive but people will still insist nothing is happening, wokeness didn't affect gaming, Sarkeesian had no influence whatsoever etc.

It's getting really ridiculous, what's the point of a modding site if everything some random nobodies don't like gets deleted? The argument that "it's their site, they can allow whatever mods they wan't to on their sites" doesn't work either when it's clear that there's pressure being put on them and someone banning anything they personally don't like.

And again, this mod was one of the most tamest mods ever. They have a lot and i mean, a lot more messed up mods on their sites.

[Queen Nothing]

Doesn't matter whether there was more messed-up mods, something designed only for thirsting after a minor has no place. The guy that made it needs to rethink his life.

[FinnishPoner]

Originally posted by Queen Nothing:

Doesn't matter whether there was more messed-up mods, something designed only for thirsting after a minor has no place. The guy that made it needs to rethink his life.

She doesn't even look like a minor though.

[ValentB]

Show those SJW crybabies Rule34 content.

[Chopsteak]

On one hand a mod for an optional modification for a game which is a piece of fiction. I cannot tell a person what they can and cannot play nor should I. I mean I play and enjoy the Postal series of games and do some really crazy things in it that I would never do in person nor should I.

With that said however, it never would have crossed my mind to get this kind of mod for a Persona game in the first place and I have no intentions or interest of ever doing so.

The point I am trying to make is that people can and should be allowed to enjoy their fiction that they want as long as they follow the two basic rules:

1: (The most important rule) Be able to separate fiction from reality, you know do not imitate the behaviors portrayed in the games, movies, books etc. The moment a person crosses the line and acts on the fantasies from the fictions they consume in the real world there should be consequences for it. Fantasy stays in fictional land and has no place in the real world.

2: Don't be rude and disrespect others with the fiction you choose to partake in. Just because you like it does not mean others will and they should not have to be subjected to it. On the other hand just because you do not like it does not mean you should lash out at the one who does.

This Hee-Ho really wishes people could keep their fictions and fantasies out of real life behave like they should and be respectful of each others opinions and interests. We need more neutral takes on things, hopefully this was. Apologies in advance if this particular take is not to everybody's liking. At the end of the day up players should be playing games to have fun and relax for a spell so we can keep doing what is required of us in our daily life.

[Yürei]

Originally posted by Chopsteak:

On one hand a mod for an optional modification for a game which is a piece of fiction. I cannot tell a person what they can and cannot play nor should I. I mean I play and enjoy the Postal series of games and do some really crazy things in it that I would never do in person nor should I.

With that said however, it never would have crossed my mind to get this kind of mod for a Persona game in the first place and I have no intentions or interest of ever doing so.

The point I am trying to make is that people can and should be allowed to enjoy their fiction that they want as long as they follow the two basic rules:

1: (The most important rule) Be able to separate fiction from reality, you know do not imitate the behaviors portrayed in the games, movies, books etc. The moment a person crosses the line and acts on the fantasies from the fictions they consume in the real world there should be consequences for it. Fantasy stays in fictional land and has no place in the real world.

2: Don't be rude and disrespect others with the fiction you choose to partake in. Just because you like it does not mean others will and they should not have to be subjected to it. On the other hand just because you do not like it does not mean you should lash out at the one who does.

This Hee-Ho really wishes people could keep their fictions and fantasies out of real life behave like they should and be respectful of each others opinions and interests. We need more neutral takes on things, hopefully this was. Apologies in advance if this particular take is not to everybody's liking. At the end of the day up players should be playing games to have fun and relax for a spell so we can keep doing what is required of us in our daily life.

Pretty much how I see it.

Tho an actual mod that I might use later and might recommend is Persona Essentials. It adds the ability to skip intro and keep rendering even while alt tab.

Originally posted by Queen Nothing:

Doesn't matter whether there was more messed-up mods, something designed only for thirsting after a minor has no place. The guy that made it needs to rethink his life.

I mean, then why would you ever play the Fmc route? By that logic, you should never play Fmc in portable and complete any of male social links. They're all technically minors. Especially Ken.

[makisekurisufcker]

We've reached a point where it no longer matters of "what you do behind closed doors is your business" but "What you're doing in private makes me upset and that's unacceptable."

But of course, people will upload a mod to make a "minor" tr*ns and it will remain up as a paragon of bravery and sticking it to the man.

[Clotho]

Originally posted by Queen Nothing:

Doesn't matter whether there was more messed-up mods, something designed only for thirsting after a minor has no place. The guy that made it needs to rethink his life.

oh dang, don't equip the battle panties outfit then...

[Splinter of Chaos]

Probably violated gamebanana's rules. https://gamebanana.com/wikis/1980

A person, real or animated, that is indistinguishable from a minor, or known to be a minor, that has been modified from their default appearance or behavior in a way that sexualizes them, involves them in a sexual context or makes them partially or fully nude.

(Yukari is 16 according to https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Yukari_Takeba)

Personally.... meh? It was uploaded to a site on which it's within the boundary of that site's rules so I don't really see the issue. I think gamebannana is within its rights to set rules and use its own judgement to determine what is allowed, other sites are allowed to do the same. We can agree or disagree with the rules, but we can also just take our business elsewhere.

[fender178]

I am not too surprised by any of this considering that other games had the same treatment. One example being Spiderman. However with this particular mod I can understand why some players/people would be upset by the mod after looking up what the meaning of the word corpulent. Also nothing is stopping anyone from creating anything they want to in terms of mods however the websites hosting these mods have a right to set whatever rules they want to.

[King Kilo]

Originally posted by Queen Nothing:

Doesn't matter whether there was more messed-up mods, something designed only for thirsting after a minor has no place. The guy that made it needs to rethink his life.

you dont own the game on steam so your opinion is irrelevant here.

[ValentB]

Originally posted by King Kilo:

Originally posted by Queen Nothing:

Doesn't matter whether there was more messed-up mods, something designed only for thirsting after a minor has no place. The guy that made it needs to rethink his life.

you dont own the game on steam so your opinion is irrelevant here.

Because the game is PC and Steam exclusive, right....

[King Kilo]

political activists masquerading as gamers have the attention span of a squirrel. they'll huff and puff about games they dont own nor have any intention of ever buying while those games are on the top sellers of the month. as soon as the next month comes around and the next big game comes out, they'll direct their degeneracy elsewhere.

nexus mods could care less about spicy mods. you can literally download mods of chun-li and cammy in their birthday suits for street fighter 6 right now on there. give it less than a month and someone will reupload the mod again and no one will bat an eye.

[King Kilo]

Originally posted by ValentB:

Originally posted by King Kilo:

you dont own the game on steam so your opinion is irrelevant here.

Because the game is PC and Steam exclusive, right....

when did I say it was exclusive to PC or steam? I said he doesnt own it on steam. This is a forum for the steam version of the game. If he owns it on xbox or playstation he can discuss the game on a playstation or xbox forum.

[Danielle]

I'm sorry, but you're on the forum where people have been, for days on end, furiously crying about a beach scene being replaced with a slightly different, equally stupid beach scene. "Woke people" aren't the ones seething about literally anything.

[FinnishPoner]

Originally posted by GunSlinginOtaku:

But of course, people will upload a mod to make a "minor" tr*ns and it will remain up as a paragon of bravery and sticking it to the man.

Don't forget mods that remove content like they did with Persona 4 which removed:

Hot Springs
Camping Trip
Cultural Festival
Cross-Dressing Pageant
Group Date Cafe

Just because they found them "cringe" or "uncomfortable". I don't think i know any other fandoms that are known for making mods that actually remove tons of content from the game instead of adding it, except maybe Fear and Hunger.

Probably one of the most disappointing mods i have ever seen. Any true fan would never consider using such a mod. That one felt like a disservice to the game, it's butchering it.

If the fanservice is in the game, the creator found it necessary.

What is unnecessary here, is these "fans" being pretentious and claiming to know better than the people who made it.

"Playing Persona 4 but literally shaking my head and modding out the parts where Yosuke says something dumb so the progressive teenager who mods my discord server knows I don't agree with it."

Brother just enjoy it, you're not any better or any worse for it.

My stance that all gaming mods have a right to exist and people are free to use any mods they like but there's a point where rocking out in COD lobbies might actually be more fun for you than forcing yourself to play Persona so you can be in with the memes.

I swear people just completely forget that Persona is a Japanese game, with heavy basis on anime, made with an audience that likes this type of stuff in mind. Seriously, what in the name of Philemon did you all expect?

I also find it funny how mod sites like Gamebanana actually kept the mods that remove content and were of course silent when entire sections of a game the developers worked on for the release are skipped but at the same time they didn't allow mods that fixed the localization for Fire Emblem Engage because they "respected the wishes of 'the developers'" regarding text.

The sheer amount of disrespect these people have towards Japanese media and culture is insane.

I can't wait until someone finally makes a mod that restores the beach scene for Persona 3 too and then watch as the people who cheered about it getting removed and made fun of those who cared about such an "inconsequential" scene seethe about it.

Watch as sites like Nexus and Gamebanana get a huge pushback from the people who are against such an "inconsequential" mod and get it taken down from everywhere, if the mod ever even actually survives all the way there. Such "inconsequential" mod it is.