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Nobody Feb 13, 2024 @ 3:36pm
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this is probably the most depressing game ending ive seen in a while, i get the message, i really do but JESUS its giving my flashbacks to edgerunners. anyways the game was really good i still like p5r better but i can see why people like this game so much, in my opinion however, its kinda far to dark some deaths only there for shock value which is kinda boring but hey all in all the game was fun and the story was good.
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Originally posted by egeslean05:
Originally posted by HydrogenBong:
Absolutely not. You obviously did not understand the story if you think a happy ending is better. Go watch an anime if you want something with 0 stakes.
So your answer is 'No!' and that's it? Really?

I did say I'm not some super creative and I gave points, that came from the game itself, that could have lead to a different and new ending. Instead of anything constructive you just claim that I, and others like me who didn't like the ending, just don't understand the game and its themes.

That's a cop-out response and blatantly untrue.

Why? Cuz I can turn that right back around on you and those on your side and say YOU don't understand the game's themes, as you only focus on Death and not the thing that P3, P4, and P5 focus on as well: Bonds. (P1&2 might do this as well, but I haven't played them in YEARS and never got far in either one, hell I don't even remember anything about them, beyond that I played them a bit.))

The current 'good ending' ignores that aspect of the game and, at least as far as I can tell cuz I'll never replay this game, as long as you choose not to kill the dude and you win the fight against Nyx, it all plays out the same (with the number of maxed out bonds talking to you and supporting you during the fight being the only real difference) (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

You want the theme kept (your interpretation of it at least)?
Sure, here's another option to go along with what I kind of suggested:
A) When MC seals Nyx, just before the scene changes, have him healed, in a 'blink and you'll miss it' moment for the exact about of HP that Aigis has.
B) Things play out as it did originally, though tone down the 'you don't look so good' and replace with 'you look tired' or something similar, something less grievous.
C) Things play out like normal again on the rooftop until everyone shows up. Aigis now wakes MC up, and helps him sit up (cuz he's groggy and tired), and then he goes to greet them.
D) They look back where he and Aigis were, only to see her smile at them and fade away, similar to how Sun did. Why? She took on the death meant for him, granting him the life and freedom she had taken from him. It's only possible due to the chain of seals and the BONDS (oh look the other theme of this game you all love to ignore). ((At that point her existence is a complete contradiction, that's true even in the current ending, so her dying and fading away removes that contradiction.))
E) (completely optional even I think this is a bit much, but eh..) In MC's hand, he holds Aigis' heart, which is now nothing but a unique trinket.

You still get the death, MC gets to live, Aigis redeems herself a bit, and the work put into the bonds has a meaningful impact on the story. Nothing about the death theme says the MC needs to die, hell, nothing about it means that anyone needs to die during the game, or as a result of the story, because that's not the point.

Death comes for all eventually, it's inevitable, do with that what you will (but running from it isn't ideal). That's basically what the game has been saying all along.

But yeah, keep sticking to your one, very narrow, definition of the 'themes' of the game and your singular idea of what it means, while ignoring everything else. Ya'll seem good at that. I'm sure you'll continue to attack people personally if they don't think exactly like you.
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Johlem Feb 13, 2024 @ 7:07pm 
for my part I just didn't understand anything about this ending, which leaves me more than perplexed.
The protagonist is dead? where? How? When? Why? I mean, we don't have any explanation, I've rarely seen a rushed ending like that.

Am I missing something or is this just a botched ending?
Last edited by Johlem; Feb 13, 2024 @ 7:11pm
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KuraiRex Feb 13, 2024 @ 7:25pm 
Originally posted by Johlem:
for my part I just didn't understand anything about this ending, which leaves me more than perplexed.
The protagonist is dead? where? How? When? Why? I mean, we don't have any explanation, I've rarely seen a rushed ending like that.

Am I missing something or is this just a botched ending?

Throughout the game it isn't up in your face about it. But there are certain moments were the game does give you hints. Especially when the protog awakens to his Persona abilities.

Warning Spoilers:
You see because he used so much power to fight / seal the final boss it was too much for one person to do. I mean he was fighting the embodiment of death after all. The Answer gives kind of an answer but we will have to see what they do if they make it a dlc. But pretty much in order to make sure Nyx can never come back the male protog had to use his power to seal them which requires his own soul to do it. Not to say it isn't dark, but to be fair the only reason that everyone lives is because of that big sacrifice.

I on the other hand like the ending. It makes sense and fits the themes. It kind of gets boring seeing people have these unlimited powers yet have no consequences when they are fighting gods and other powerful deities.
Last edited by KuraiRex; Feb 13, 2024 @ 7:27pm
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Nobody Feb 13, 2024 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by Johlem:
for my part I just didn't understand anything about this ending, which leaves me more than perplexed.
The protagonist is dead? where? How? When? Why? I mean, we don't have any explanation, I've rarely seen a rushed ending like that.

Am I missing something or is this just a botched ending?
the "great seal" move costs all your HP to use, the mc used all of his soul to seal away nyx and only kept on living to keep the promise all of sees made on the 31st, he was more just a body without his soul at the end after the fight, you can even see him saying things like "i feel tired and my body feel weak" on the last day. all in all i like the game is was really good, but i just hate "bittersweet" endings, and its not like the game HAD to go so dark, they literally use the line "you are powered up by the power of friendship" while youre fighting nyx in the moon so its not like it was impossible to have a somewhat happy ending while also keeping to the dark aura just look how ff16 did it, its a darker game and it has a good ending that involves your brother dying yet that ending it much better than p3 in my opinion, but hey we have to wait for p6 to see what road they take
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nfinite.recursion Feb 13, 2024 @ 9:01pm 
Originally posted by Johlem:
for my part I just didn't understand anything about this ending, which leaves me more than perplexed.
The protagonist is dead? where? How? When? Why? I mean, we don't have any explanation, I've rarely seen a rushed ending like that.

Am I missing something or is this just a botched ending?

This is why "The Answer" exists.
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allknowingeel Feb 13, 2024 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by Nobody:
Originally posted by Johlem:
for my part I just didn't understand anything about this ending, which leaves me more than perplexed.
The protagonist is dead? where? How? When? Why? I mean, we don't have any explanation, I've rarely seen a rushed ending like that.

Am I missing something or is this just a botched ending?
the "great seal" move costs all your HP to use, the mc used all of his soul to seal away nyx and only kept on living to keep the promise all of sees made on the 31st, he was more just a body without his soul at the end after the fight, you can even see him saying things like "i feel tired and my body feel weak" on the last day. all in all i like the game is was really good, but i just hate "bittersweet" endings, and its not like the game HAD to go so dark, they literally use the line "you are powered up by the power of friendship" while youre fighting nyx in the moon so its not like it was impossible to have a somewhat happy ending while also keeping to the dark aura just look how ff16 did it, its a darker game and it has a good ending that involves your brother dying yet that ending it much better than p3 in my opinion, but hey we have to wait for p6 to see what road they take
The og literally tells you at the start of the game "memento mori" which is Latin and translates to "Remember you are mortal, remember you will die". I can't remember if reload tells you this, but a large part of the game and theme is death. "memento mori" also has the side meaning of living every day to your fullest because you only have so much time left. And that is what you do in this game, just living every day as best you can before you finally die. It is a very poetic ending.
Last edited by allknowingeel; Feb 13, 2024 @ 9:47pm
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Nobody Feb 13, 2024 @ 10:09pm 
Originally posted by allknowingeel:
Originally posted by Nobody:
the "great seal" move costs all your HP to use, the mc used all of his soul to seal away nyx and only kept on living to keep the promise all of sees made on the 31st, he was more just a body without his soul at the end after the fight, you can even see him saying things like "i feel tired and my body feel weak" on the last day. all in all i like the game is was really good, but i just hate "bittersweet" endings, and its not like the game HAD to go so dark, they literally use the line "you are powered up by the power of friendship" while youre fighting nyx in the moon so its not like it was impossible to have a somewhat happy ending while also keeping to the dark aura just look how ff16 did it, its a darker game and it has a good ending that involves your brother dying yet that ending it much better than p3 in my opinion, but hey we have to wait for p6 to see what road they take
The og literally tells you at the start of the game "memento mori" which is Latin and translates to "Remember you are mortal, remember you will die". I can't remember if reload tells you this, but a large part of the game and theme is death. "memento mori" also has the side meaning of living every day to your fullest because you only have so much time left. And that is what you do in this game, just living every day as best you can before you finally die. It is a very poetic ending.
like i said, i KNOW the meaning, i understand what they were going for, i just hate those types of endings, they've been done and its just boring to me. and its not like im against it, ff16 made their ending pretty dark but i loved it and thats not to say i hate p3s ending i do like it but i feel it COULD be better.
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Starts@0 Feb 13, 2024 @ 11:25pm 
Originally posted by Nobody:
like i said, i KNOW the meaning, i understand what they were going for, i just hate those types of endings, they've been done and its just boring to me.

Care to name a few? I like to check out these games. Provided, of course, they aren't part of the SMT banner. Otherwise, there's a very good chance that I already played them.
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Nobody Feb 13, 2024 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Starts@0:
Originally posted by Nobody:
like i said, i KNOW the meaning, i understand what they were going for, i just hate those types of endings, they've been done and its just boring to me.

Care to name a few? I like to check out these games. Provided, of course, they aren't part of the SMT banner. Otherwise, there's a very good chance that I already played them.
bioshock infinite, cyberpunk, halo reach, rdr 1 and tlou 2 to name a few, alot of these games ARE good and the stories are cool its just the endings that i feel could be better. i have enough of sadness in my everyday life, and im not ashamed to admit that i prefer a more Disney esc story ending alot like P5R or ff15 or gow 4 and 5.
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Ceroki Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:59am 
Stop playing mature games.
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Amaterasu Feb 14, 2024 @ 7:10am 
The answer doesn't exactly help with the ending in my opinion and only cheapens it if you ask me. Long story short, Nyx was created by a being known as Erebus who exists literally because humans want to die and as long as people want to die, the main character can never be brought back from being the great seal that holds back both Nyx and Erebus. Which kind of goes against the whole thing of Persona 3 where people became more and more nihilistic and want to die because of Nyx's influence on humanity. The story is one of the reasons people don't like The Answer. The other is the gameplay.
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Nima2150 Feb 14, 2024 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by sungoddess14:
The answer doesn't exactly help with the ending in my opinion and only cheapens it if you ask me. Long story short, Nyx was created by a being known as Erebus who exists literally because humans want to die and as long as people want to die, the main character can never be brought back from being the great seal that holds back both Nyx and Erebus. Which kind of goes against the whole thing of Persona 3 where people became more and more nihilistic and want to die because of Nyx's influence on humanity. The story is one of the reasons people don't like The Answer. The other is the gameplay.
What the hell is this Answer thing anyway?? is it a filler novel or something??
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Amaterasu Feb 14, 2024 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by Nima2150:
Originally posted by sungoddess14:
The answer doesn't exactly help with the ending in my opinion and only cheapens it if you ask me. Long story short, Nyx was created by a being known as Erebus who exists literally because humans want to die and as long as people want to die, the main character can never be brought back from being the great seal that holds back both Nyx and Erebus. Which kind of goes against the whole thing of Persona 3 where people became more and more nihilistic and want to die because of Nyx's influence on humanity. The story is one of the reasons people don't like The Answer. The other is the gameplay.
What the hell is this Answer thing anyway?? is it a filler novel or something??

Apparently, it's supposed to be the canon epilogue to Persona 3. It was in Persona 3 FES.
Last edited by Amaterasu; Feb 14, 2024 @ 8:55am
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Nobody Feb 14, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by A10DollarBagel:
Stop playing mature games.
ill pass thanks for the suggestion anyway!
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Someone Feb 14, 2024 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by sungoddess14:
Originally posted by Nima2150:
What the hell is this Answer thing anyway?? is it a filler novel or something??

Apparently, it's supposed to be the canon epilogue to Persona 3. It was in Persona 3 FES.
yep, it wasn't in the orignal Persona 3. It was added along many other things in an upgraded version of the game called "Persona 3 FES"
Kind of like all of the Marie stuff in Persona 4 Golden
Or all the Maruki stuff in Persona 5 Royal
Needless to say it got mixed reaction and is still pretty divisive to this day
Last edited by Someone; Feb 14, 2024 @ 12:51pm
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Starts@0 Feb 14, 2024 @ 3:29pm 
Originally posted by Nobody:
Originally posted by Starts@0:

Care to name a few? I like to check out these games. Provided, of course, they aren't part of the SMT banner. Otherwise, there's a very good chance that I already played them.
bioshock infinite, cyberpunk, halo reach, rdr 1 and tlou 2 to name a few, alot of these games ARE good and the stories are cool its just the endings that i feel could be better. i have enough of sadness in my everyday life, and im not ashamed to admit that i prefer a more Disney esc story ending alot like P5R or ff15 or gow 4 and 5.

I am sorry, but I am having difficulty agreeing with you. I didn't find any emotional resonance in Bioshock Infinite's ending. I don't remember how Red Dead Redemption ended anymore. That shows just how memorable the game was for me. And Halo Reach's ending has always been perfect. I went into that game with the expectation it would be about a heroic last stand and it did not disappoint.

I do need to ask, though - Is this your first time playing through Persona 3?

Judging from your impetus behind this thread and from your response, it certainly feels like it. I mean, I won't be playing Persona 3 Reload if I am suffering from a bout of depression. Then again, I won't be playing something as violent as God of War either. I'd play something fun like Mario or Super Monkey Ball. Now, those are more Disney-esque than Final Fantasy, Persona or God of War.
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