Reaper was a joke.

[MemeCow]

It's like their goal is to make this boss easier and easier with each new persona game. I accidentally one shotted him in my first playthrough.

[AngryChair]

Originally posted by wetto:

Originally posted by AngryChair:

Dude what? In both P3 and P5 you need to wait for him or he won't spawn, being weaker or not doesn't matter at all because that time must be out of combat. And what is the point of fighting him before floor 80 and how on earth does him not appearing before that defeat his purpose?

He's an optional boss that should be fought at around level 70-80, of course he's a joke if you are overleveled and you even used Armaggeddon, which btw also oneshots him on P3 Fes & Portable. Hell, in the OG you could kick his ass just spamming Thunder Reign + Physical Attack + All Out Attack

You completely ignored my point. So I ain’t even gonna bother with you.

I adressed your point, you make a post complaining about the reaper being a joke when he was never a hard boss to begin with, at least not in P3 & P5. You also for some reason complain about having to wait 5 minutes for him to spawn when it's not even that much considering sometimes we end up grinding for a bit or even end up in Dark Zones, in which he appears extremely faster. And btw, he appears in the 62 floor, which is part of the first block lol.

You "wont bother with me" because you don't have any arguments at all. Imagine complaining about a boss you cheesed with the game's ultimate attack. Even if you defeated him by "mistake" you could've always reloaded your saved and fought him fair and square, but then again if you had access to that attack you were already overleveled.

[passat b5]

hi

[MemeCow]

Originally posted by AngryChair:

Originally posted by wetto:

You completely ignored my point. So I ain’t even gonna bother with you.

I adressed your point, you make a post complaining about the reaper being a joke when he was never a hard boss to begin with, at least not in P3 & P5. You also for some reason complain about having to wait 5 minutes for him to spawn when it's not even that much considering sometimes we end up grinding for a bit or even end up in Dark Zones, in which he appears extremely faster. And btw, he appears in the 62 floor, which is part of the first block lol.

You "wont bother with me" because you don't have any arguments at all. Imagine complaining about a boss you cheesed with the game's ultimate attack. Even if you defeated him by "mistake" you could've always reloaded your saved and fought him fair and square, but then again if you had access to that attack you were already overleveled.

Aight ill argue your points.
I know you have to wait for him any of the games, in all the other games I actually got to SEE/ SPAWN in the reaper before I was high enough level to even bother fighting him, mainly in the early game of each person game, because since you're weaker you are going to take more time going thru each floor, making sure you don't miss out on loot that could be of use to you or just trying to go around in a sneaky way cause you don't wanna take unnecessary fights. I took my time in every single floor of reload, and he had not spawned in ONCE, until i had to purposefully try to spawn him in. So yes you ignored that point. Also you saying ' And btw, he appears in the 62 floor, which is part of the first block lol." acting like im far off while getting the block wrong too is crazy. It had been a minute since I played 3 so I went with 80, cause I knew it was around there which it was. My point still stands that not making him able to spawn from the get-go, and having no risk during all of the first and majority of the 2nd block is boring to me, and just babying him even more. I'll be honest I didn't know Armageddon was in the other games, cause I didn't really bother going for a bunch of fusions in the other ones, and also lost my saves, but even then he was harder in the other games than how he is currently. I wasn't really over leveled, I was the minimum level to fuse everything to get that therugy, I even had the arcana which allowed me to fuse personas who were at most five levels above me. I wasn't even going for that theurgy but ended up getting it just messing around fusing a bunch of strong personas together, and going for the things needed to acquire messiah. And I did exactly what you said, I reloaded the game after one shotting him and again beat him easily.

[MemeCow]

Originally posted by KAPE:

hi

[AngryChair]

Originally posted by wetto:

Originally posted by AngryChair:

I adressed your point, you make a post complaining about the reaper being a joke when he was never a hard boss to begin with, at least not in P3 & P5. You also for some reason complain about having to wait 5 minutes for him to spawn when it's not even that much considering sometimes we end up grinding for a bit or even end up in Dark Zones, in which he appears extremely faster. And btw, he appears in the 62 floor, which is part of the first block lol.

You "wont bother with me" because you don't have any arguments at all. Imagine complaining about a boss you cheesed with the game's ultimate attack. Even if you defeated him by "mistake" you could've always reloaded your saved and fought him fair and square, but then again if you had access to that attack you were already overleveled.

Aight ill argue your points.
I know you have to wait for him any of the games, in all the other games I actually got to SEE/ SPAWN in the reaper before I was high enough level to even bother fighting him, mainly in the early game of each person game, because since you're weaker you are going to take more time going thru each floor, making sure you don't miss out on loot that could be of use to you or just trying to go around in a sneaky way cause you don't wanna take unnecessary fights. I took my time in every single floor of reload, and he had not spawned in ONCE, until i had to purposefully try to spawn him in. So yes you ignored that point. Also you saying ' And btw, he appears in the 62 floor, which is part of the first block lol." acting like im far off while getting the block wrong too is crazy. It had been a minute since I played 3 so I went with 80, cause I knew it was around there which it was. My point still stands that not making him able to spawn from the get-go, and having no risk during all of the first and majority of the 2nd block is boring to me, and just babying him even more. I'll be honest I didn't know Armageddon was in the other games, cause I didn't really bother going for a bunch of fusions in the other ones, and also lost my saves, but even then he was harder in the other games than how he is currently. I wasn't really over leveled, I was the minimum level to fuse everything to get that therugy, I even had the arcana which allowed me to fuse personas who were at most five levels above me. I wasn't even going for that theurgy but ended up getting it just messing around fusing a bunch of strong personas together, and going for the things needed to acquire messiah. And I did exactly what you said, I reloaded the game after one shotting him and again beat him easily.

In which games did you get to see/spawn the reaper? In OG P4 he doesn't appear until NG+ and in Golden he just has a slim change of appearing IN A CHEST after opening 20 chests so he doesn't even chase you lol. In P5 and Royal he only appears in mementos where each floor is easily explorable in far less than 5 minutes, same as P3. The fights are easy in every Persona game if you use the tools the game gives you, like armaggeddon or thunder reign (p3), charge + hassou tobi (p4 & p5), or if you overlevel like you did in P3R.

Stop complaining about a boss that was never a challenge unless you fought him at a reasonable level. The only hard boss in Persona games are the fights with the Velvet Attendants.

[MemeCow]

Originally posted by AngryChair:

Originally posted by wetto:

Aight ill argue your points.
I know you have to wait for him any of the games, in all the other games I actually got to SEE/ SPAWN in the reaper before I was high enough level to even bother fighting him, mainly in the early game of each person game, because since you're weaker you are going to take more time going thru each floor, making sure you don't miss out on loot that could be of use to you or just trying to go around in a sneaky way cause you don't wanna take unnecessary fights. I took my time in every single floor of reload, and he had not spawned in ONCE, until i had to purposefully try to spawn him in. So yes you ignored that point. Also you saying ' And btw, he appears in the 62 floor, which is part of the first block lol." acting like im far off while getting the block wrong too is crazy. It had been a minute since I played 3 so I went with 80, cause I knew it was around there which it was. My point still stands that not making him able to spawn from the get-go, and having no risk during all of the first and majority of the 2nd block is boring to me, and just babying him even more. I'll be honest I didn't know Armageddon was in the other games, cause I didn't really bother going for a bunch of fusions in the other ones, and also lost my saves, but even then he was harder in the other games than how he is currently. I wasn't really over leveled, I was the minimum level to fuse everything to get that therugy, I even had the arcana which allowed me to fuse personas who were at most five levels above me. I wasn't even going for that theurgy but ended up getting it just messing around fusing a bunch of strong personas together, and going for the things needed to acquire messiah. And I did exactly what you said, I reloaded the game after one shotting him and again beat him easily.

In which games did you get to see/spawn the reaper? In OG P4 he doesn't appear until NG+ and in Golden he just has a slim change of appearing IN A CHEST after opening 20 chests so he doesn't even chase you lol. In P5 and Royal he only appears in mementos where each floor is easily explorable in far less than 5 minutes, same as P3. The fights are easy in every Persona game if you use the tools the game gives you, like armaggeddon or thunder reign (p3), charge + hassou tobi (p4 & p5), or if you overlevel like you did in P3R.

Stop complaining about a boss that was never a challenge unless you fought him at a reasonable level. The only hard boss in Persona games are the fights with the Velvet Attendants.

Again you're ignoring the SAME POINT. I've fought him in each one and he has just gotten significantly easier with each new game. I've spawned him in mementos many times by accident, just by playing normally, looking for request and missing the area to interact with it like a dumbass or when the game instantly spawns him in. In golden I had a few run in with him/ the chest where he can spawn out of. While yes he doesn't chase you, he can still spawn in that chest anytime throughout your play through. I actually remember just not paying attention and opening his chest just spamming X on my vita to open the chest and getting my ass wooped, and learned my lesson. While yes you can use these tools to make him VERY EASY, he himself has also just gotten easier. Also I wasn't over leveled so keep coping about that. I can complain about whatever I want, you just don't like that im saying that he is getting easier and easier in each game, noones telling you to post on the discussion, if you don't like my opinion then idgaf. Idc if you don't agree with me, I just know from my experience has has done nothing but gotten easier and easier, with or without cheesing him.

[Giorno]

They're purposefully making Persona games easier as it gets more mainstream. Currently playing on Merciless and having no difficulties really, I completed the first block of Tartarus all in one go as if I was on normal. Play Shin Megami Tensei, I don't think they will make those games easier anytime soon because the difficulty is part of the appeal.

[AngryChair]

Originally posted by wetto:

Originally posted by AngryChair:

In which games did you get to see/spawn the reaper? In OG P4 he doesn't appear until NG+ and in Golden he just has a slim change of appearing IN A CHEST after opening 20 chests so he doesn't even chase you lol. In P5 and Royal he only appears in mementos where each floor is easily explorable in far less than 5 minutes, same as P3. The fights are easy in every Persona game if you use the tools the game gives you, like armaggeddon or thunder reign (p3), charge + hassou tobi (p4 & p5), or if you overlevel like you did in P3R.

Stop complaining about a boss that was never a challenge unless you fought him at a reasonable level. The only hard boss in Persona games are the fights with the Velvet Attendants.

Again you're ignoring the SAME POINT. I've fought him in each one and he has just gotten significantly easier with each new game. I've spawned him in mementos many times by accident, just by playing normally, looking for request and missing the area to interact with it like a dumbass or when the game instantly spawns him in. In golden I had a few run in with him/ the chest where he can spawn out of. While yes he doesn't chase you, he can still spawn in that chest anytime throughout your play through. I actually remember just not paying attention and opening his chest just spamming X on my vita to open the chest and getting my ass wooped, and learned my lesson. While yes you can use these tools to make him VERY EASY, he himself has also just gotten easier. Also I wasn't over leveled so keep coping about that. I can complain about whatever I want, you just don't like that im saying that he is getting easier and easier in each game, noones telling you to post on the discussion, if you don't like my opinion then idgaf. Idc if you don't agree with me, I just know from my experience has has done nothing but gotten easier and easier, with or without cheesing him.

Whatever you say buddy. You had access to armageddon but you weren't overleveled huh, nice logic you got there, since helel is lvl 88 and the earliest you can fuse her is 83 if you got a certain arcana card. Also you are only stating your own experience, I've encountered reaper in P3R multiple times be it because i stayed a bit grinding or i had to go back to explore a bit of the floor i missed for example, or by landing in a special floor which spawns him faster, same as you with mementos, and in p4 there's a clear sound of chains before opening a chest so it isn't like he's an intimidating presence chasing you throughout the dungeon.

It's not the reaper being easier but the whole game being easier because of theurgy and passive bonuses. If you fight the reaper above lvl 85 in any persona game, like you clearly did in p3, you are going to have a considerably easier time. Next time complain about Persona final bosses being easier after grinding to lvl 99, clown.

[MemeCow]

Originally posted by AngryChair:

Originally posted by wetto:

Again you're ignoring the SAME POINT. I've fought him in each one and he has just gotten significantly easier with each new game. I've spawned him in mementos many times by accident, just by playing normally, looking for request and missing the area to interact with it like a dumbass or when the game instantly spawns him in. In golden I had a few run in with him/ the chest where he can spawn out of. While yes he doesn't chase you, he can still spawn in that chest anytime throughout your play through. I actually remember just not paying attention and opening his chest just spamming X on my vita to open the chest and getting my ass wooped, and learned my lesson. While yes you can use these tools to make him VERY EASY, he himself has also just gotten easier. Also I wasn't over leveled so keep coping about that. I can complain about whatever I want, you just don't like that im saying that he is getting easier and easier in each game, noones telling you to post on the discussion, if you don't like my opinion then idgaf. Idc if you don't agree with me, I just know from my experience has has done nothing but gotten easier and easier, with or without cheesing him.

Whatever you say buddy. You had access to armageddon but you weren't overleveled huh, nice logic you got there, since helel is lvl 88 and the earliest you can fuse her is 83 if you got a certain arcana card. Also you are only stating your own experience, I've encountered reaper in P3R multiple times be it because i stayed a bit grinding or i had to go back to explore a bit of the floor i missed for example, or by landing in a special floor which spawns him faster, same as you with mementos, and in p4 there's a clear sound of chains before opening a chest so it isn't like he's an intimidating presence chasing you throughout the dungeon.

It's not the reaper being easier but the whole game being easier because of theurgy and passive bonuses. If you fight the reaper above lvl 85 in any persona game, like you clearly did in p3, you are going to have a considerably easier time. Next time complaing about Persona final bosses being easier after grinding to lvl 99, clown.

bro just loves not reading half the things im posting. If all you can do is insult me then boohoo. Your post is just proving you didn't read what i said LMAO. Im not gonna argue with a child about this.

[MemeCow]

Originally posted by AngryChair:

Originally posted by wetto:

Again you're ignoring the SAME POINT. I've fought him in each one and he has just gotten significantly easier with each new game. I've spawned him in mementos many times by accident, just by playing normally, looking for request and missing the area to interact with it like a dumbass or when the game instantly spawns him in. In golden I had a few run in with him/ the chest where he can spawn out of. While yes he doesn't chase you, he can still spawn in that chest anytime throughout your play through. I actually remember just not paying attention and opening his chest just spamming X on my vita to open the chest and getting my ass wooped, and learned my lesson. While yes you can use these tools to make him VERY EASY, he himself has also just gotten easier. Also I wasn't over leveled so keep coping about that. I can complain about whatever I want, you just don't like that im saying that he is getting easier and easier in each game, noones telling you to post on the discussion, if you don't like my opinion then idgaf. Idc if you don't agree with me, I just know from my experience has has done nothing but gotten easier and easier, with or without cheesing him.

Whatever you say buddy. You had access to armageddon but you weren't overleveled huh, nice logic you got there, since helel is lvl 88 and the earliest you can fuse her is 83 if you got a certain arcana card. Also you are only stating your own experience, I've encountered reaper in P3R multiple times be it because i stayed a bit grinding or i had to go back to explore a bit of the floor i missed for example, or by landing in a special floor which spawns him faster, same as you with mementos, and in p4 there's a clear sound of chains before opening a chest so it isn't like he's an intimidating presence chasing you throughout the dungeon.

It's not the reaper being easier but the whole game being easier because of theurgy and passive bonuses. If you fight the reaper above lvl 85 in any persona game, like you clearly did in p3, you are going to have a considerably easier time. Next time complain about Persona final bosses being easier after grinding to lvl 99, clown.

You also proved my point with ur last paragraph

[AngryChair]

Originally posted by wetto:

Originally posted by AngryChair:

Whatever you say buddy. You had access to armageddon but you weren't overleveled huh, nice logic you got there, since helel is lvl 88 and the earliest you can fuse her is 83 if you got a certain arcana card. Also you are only stating your own experience, I've encountered reaper in P3R multiple times be it because i stayed a bit grinding or i had to go back to explore a bit of the floor i missed for example, or by landing in a special floor which spawns him faster, same as you with mementos, and in p4 there's a clear sound of chains before opening a chest so it isn't like he's an intimidating presence chasing you throughout the dungeon.

It's not the reaper being easier but the whole game being easier because of theurgy and passive bonuses. If you fight the reaper above lvl 85 in any persona game, like you clearly did in p3, you are going to have a considerably easier time. Next time complain about Persona final bosses being easier after grinding to lvl 99, clown.

You also proved my point with ur last paragraph

Not really, like i said multiple times reaper was never a hard boss, P3's reaper is actually the easiest reaper fight in the franchise, for reasons I've also said multiple times, but it seems you are reluctant to read. I did read and answer to all your points but yeah i get you, no use trying to have a discussion with a crybaby

[MemeCow]

Originally posted by AngryChair:

Originally posted by wetto:

You also proved my point with ur last paragraph

Not really, like i said multiple times reaper was never a hard boss, P3's reaper is actually the easiest reaper fight in the franchise, for reasons I've also said multiple times, but it seems you are reluctant to read. I did read and answer to all your points but yeah i get you, no use trying to have a discussion with a crybaby

If you literally Google it it’s supposed to be hard fight. And you are still agreeing with my point that he’s a joke and much easier than his previous counterparts. You saying they made the whole game easier is also agreeing with me. Also you have ignored many of my points lil bro. If you wanna keep arguing over something you agree with then we can keep going. All you can come up with is insults now so I suggest just shutting up before you look like more of a clown.

[MemeCow]

Originally posted by wetto:

Originally posted by AngryChair:

Not really, like i said multiple times reaper was never a hard boss, P3's reaper is actually the easiest reaper fight in the franchise, for reasons I've also said multiple times, but it seems you are reluctant to read. I did read and answer to all your points but yeah i get you, no use trying to have a discussion with a crybaby

If you literally Google it it’s supposed to be hard fight. And you are still agreeing with my point that he’s a joke and much easier than his previous counterparts. You saying they made the whole game easier is also agreeing with me. Also you have ignored many of my points lil bro. If you wanna keep arguing over something you agree with then we can keep going. All you can come up with is insults now so I suggest just shutting up before you look like more of a clown.

the whole game is getting easier and the rest will. No point in defending the reaper.

[Zogtar]

Am I better just buying a copy of FeS at this point?

[MemeCow]

Originally posted by Zogtar:

Am I better just buying a copy of FeS at this point?

i mean what are you looking for in 3? Reload is my favorite even tho i ♥♥♥♥ on it the most, but thats cause i love the story.