The gourmet king is the most loathsome s.link ever

[bulldog0890]

my god do i hate this guy

[Endora]

Yep, I agree 100%.

[Chopsteak]

From a gameplay perspective I can see completing the link to get the boost to persona fusion and the ultimate one at the end. From a role playing perspective I cannot understand how anyone would want to actually see this thing through to the end. All other links you want to see what happens next, what motivates them, watch as they grow, but not this guy. This link is a mess and I just cannot figure out why the MC would actually want to spend time with him.

I would love to see an argument in support of this character by someone who actually likes him so I can get a different angle of opinion to think on.

[Koopa]

how I sleep knowing nozomi haters will burn in hell

[ffrasisti [ARG]]

Originally posted by Chopsteak:

From a gameplay perspective I can see completing the link to get the boost to persona fusion and the ultimate one at the end. From a role playing perspective I cannot understand how anyone would want to actually see this thing through to the end. All other links you want to see what happens next, what motivates them, watch as they grow, but not this guy. This link is a mess and I just cannot figure out why the MC would actually want to spend time with him.

I would love to see an argument in support of this character by someone who actually likes him so I can get a different angle of opinion to think on.

Same. I hated this guy even more then Junpei and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, that's saying something.

[LofLM🇵🇷]

Gonna get ♥♥♥♥ for this but I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love that some of the Social Links are actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I love hanging out with Tanaka and he's just irredeemably awful the entire way through. Occasionally he might sound vaguely like an actual person only to double down on being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Same with this asshat.

[Woke Antifa Supersoldier]

Originally posted by LofLM🇵🇷:

Gonna get ♥♥♥♥ for this but I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love that some of the Social Links are actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I love hanging out with Tanaka and he's just irredeemably awful the entire way through. Occasionally he might sound vaguely like an actual person only to double down on being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Same with this asshat.

They tack on the cult ♥♥♥♥ too much and it feels like he doesn’t even take the right lesson away from it.

[Chopsteak]

Originally posted by LofLM🇵🇷:

Gonna get ♥♥♥♥ for this but I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love that some of the Social Links are actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I love hanging out with Tanaka and he's just irredeemably awful the entire way through. Occasionally he might sound vaguely like an actual person only to double down on being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Same with this asshat.

I loved Tanaka's social link. His and the monk's were my favorites to go through. Where Tanaka may have been seen as awful, he was at least interesting. The only thing the Gourmet King said that was any good was that bit in Kyoto about why he would not wear a yukata. i will admit, that made me laugh, other than that I found him to be an annoying cheesedick and never worthy of being called a Hee-Ho.

[LofLM🇵🇷]

Originally posted by Woke Antifa Supersoldier:

Originally posted by LofLM🇵🇷:

Gonna get ♥♥♥♥ for this but I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love that some of the Social Links are actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I love hanging out with Tanaka and he's just irredeemably awful the entire way through. Occasionally he might sound vaguely like an actual person only to double down on being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Same with this asshat.

They tack on the cult ♥♥♥♥ too much and it feels like he doesn’t even take the right lesson away from it.

Tanaka exists and you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this guy for not changing? I like Nozomi, really. Especially the rank 10 part where he mentions he never realized how good the ramen tasted. He was too focused on swallowing the past instead of enjoying the meal, but now that he's not trying to ignore the past he can properly enjoy food. I think this kinda "change" fits him more than a full 180 turn where he'd be on diet.

[Chopsteak]

Originally posted by LofLM🇵🇷:

Originally posted by Woke Antifa Supersoldier:

They tack on the cult ♥♥♥♥ too much and it feels like he doesn’t even take the right lesson away from it.

Tanaka exists and you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this guy for not changing? I like Nozomi, really. Especially the rank 10 part where he mentions he never realized how good the ramen tasted. He was too focused on swallowing the past instead of enjoying the meal, but now that he's not trying to ignore the past he can properly enjoy food. I think this kinda "change" fits him more than a full 180 turn where he'd be on diet.

Fair enough, I do appreciate seeing a different take on the link that is in his defense. I don't think it is going to make me like him, but it is worthwhile to think on.

[Endora]

Nah, I do like characters to show some growing, but in his case is a lost of time. Maybe if his redemption arc was better written, but the way as it is only makes him anoying until right next the end, it doesn't help him in the least.

[okazaki2552]

literally worst sl of all games so far

[LofLM🇵🇷]

Originally posted by Chopsteak:

Originally posted by LofLM🇵🇷:

Tanaka exists and you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this guy for not changing? I like Nozomi, really. Especially the rank 10 part where he mentions he never realized how good the ramen tasted. He was too focused on swallowing the past instead of enjoying the meal, but now that he's not trying to ignore the past he can properly enjoy food. I think this kinda "change" fits him more than a full 180 turn where he'd be on diet.

Fair enough, I do appreciate seeing a different take on the link that is in his defense. I don't think it is going to make me like him, but it is worthwhile to think on.

Well, I’m glad I could offer a new perspective.

[LofLM🇵🇷]

Originally posted by Endora:

Nah, I do like characters to show some growing, but in his case is a lost of time. Maybe if his redemption arc was better written, but the way as it is only makes him anoying until right next the end, it doesn't help him in the least.

I guess it kinda represents how not everyone takes the best lessons from the ♥♥♥♥ they get themselves in or that they’re doomed to repeat their behavior? If that's what they were going for then sure, but l'm probably giving them too much credit.

Moon Tarot is about deception and fear/ anxiety, which is mainly what Nozomi goes through with the whole Gourmet King facade and being so hellbent on the cult that screwed up his mental state after the brother stuff
So, it's intentional to a degree, but yea

[Burdpal]

If I ever saw Tomochika IRL, I'd try to find a way to make murder legal.

[pixet]

Originally posted by Chopsteak:

From a gameplay perspective I can see completing the link to get the boost to persona fusion and the ultimate one at the end. From a role playing perspective I cannot understand how anyone would want to actually see this thing through to the end. All other links you want to see what happens next, what motivates them, watch as they grow, but not this guy. This link is a mess and I just cannot figure out why the MC would actually want to spend time with him.

I would love to see an argument in support of this character by someone who actually likes him so I can get a different angle of opinion to think on.

I think the perspective of the Gourmet King's story is about clearing up his misconceptions about his life after being compared to his brother, but failing to do so on his own, and the cult is a means to an end that went too far. Rank 8 reveals and explains how he thinks in extremes (if his cult* is not taken seriously, it must mean he's hated) and he snaps out of it in 9 and 10, realizing he's been a fraud but also that these comparisons don't matter and he should be himself.

I think the protagonist hangs out with someone like him because he's genuinely a kind soul that understands how important friendships are, but that's the picture Rank 9 painted around him. He has already accepted Suemitsu for who he is and is waiting for the both of them to reach the same conclusion.

I don't really hate any of the characters in the series, there's conscious intent with all of them especially when they're repulsive for one reason or another. The Gourmet King isn't close to my favorite SL but wanted to share my interpretation on what the story is about.