p3r or p5r? which one do you prefer

[dei]

as someone who 100%'d both games. at first i was like this doesn't even come close to p5, the fact that tartarus felt like mementos and it was just repetitive unlike p5 with detailed castles, art gallery full of shadows etc. i also prefer the p5 social links to p3, the social links in p3 feel way too random and the urge to skip dialogue was usually there..
but storywise and which protagonist i prefer, it's definitely persona 3 reload, i cried.

[Erylaria]

I played P3 and P4 back on PS2 and I still prefer both games, even in their original versions, to P5/P5R.

P5/R was a very packed and stylish game. And I wouldn't say I didn't enjoy my time with it... but I just didn't click with the cast the way I did with P3 and P4. It felt like a pretty package with little to no substance. The writing was constantly contradicting itself and the bosses felt... not very personal? I barely remember any of the Social Links outside the main cast (and I did max most of them in my 150hish total). Overall, for me personally, P5/R lacked emotional impact across the board. What I remember most are visual style, music, and gimmicks.

Now, P3 felt... much more personal. The cast (apart from maybe Junpei.......) felt very relatable and the Social Links struck an emotional chord with me, to the point where I still remember even minor details about Social Links even though I played the game like 10 years ago and only once. Yes, the gameplay was a little meh (no control over party members, fatigue) but these issues have been addressed in P3R. To me, emotional impact and consistent and logical character writing trumps gameplay/dungeon design/visual style any day. So I would always pick P3R over P5R.

But the real star of the show is always going to be P4G xD

[These are personal opinions, to each their own.]

[a.warringa1]

Erylaria a écrit :

[These are personal opinions, to each their own.]

I fully, fully agree with you. That was exactly why I wasn't enjoying P5 as much as 3 and 4. The main story was just way to repetitive (each member telling you 10 times over and over again what the next step will be), social links were not interesting and it felt like it was written for.. a younger audience.

[lawjax]

Persona 5 Royal offers more to do and the quality of the various activities you can partake in is consistently good. Mechanically, 5 simplified some concepts of the series and introduced some new ones which meshed really well with the new style of presentation too. However, that is not why I like 5 over 3; I prefer 5 over 3 because a lot of the writing for 3 is simply mediocre. Many of the character arcs are contrived and the stakes introduced by the story come off as shallow and melodramatic, which was admittedly rather thematic to the 2000s overall. The twists were mostly awkward and ridiculous.

By comparison, 5 has an excellent narrative that is rich with intrigue and only compounds with interest as you carry on. There are still some weak dialogues and some similarly contrived moments of storytelling, but the composition of the story is far stronger. The main characters seem to matter more too, as 5 goes to considerable lengths to centralize your own role and impact in the story from the very beginning, tying everyone and everything that happens around you to you. In 3 you simply walk into a preexisting operation and assume authority over everyone else's affairs, which is a more impersonal manner of presentation.

The most disappointing aspect of 5 is Morgana. The most questionable aspect of 3 are the dorm room cameras, which every character in the main cast is surely aware exists via the control room, especially Mitsuru and Akihiko who were watching me sleep the first night I had arrived, but for some reason only I am able to recognize as being detrimental to our persisting friendship.

All that said, P3R is a great remake--a great remake of a decent JRPG--and the one thing it does notably better than 5 is that it has its social links fully voiced through all of the hang-outs and linked episodes. I really like that as a finishing touch--makes everything more PERSONA-l...



Come on, anyone?
No?
All right, I'll see myself out.

[Redassassin]

P3R hands down. My issue with the other Persona games is that the dungeons have the same look throughout the whole thing. Oh look we have a strip club, oh look we have a space ship, oh look we have minecraft... P4 dungeons are boring and full of annoying gimmicks and P5 dungeons go on for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ever. P3 had 1 dungeon and you have 1 goal. Get to the top and fight the boss. That is your goal and I love every second of it. In P3Fes the floor logic could get really weird and some of the biomes looked very similar do to the PS2 limitations it had back then. P3R took what the og game did and made it better by making every block have a unique biome and giving them their own tile set. P3R is the first game in the series where my play time has been a healthy mix of social sim and dungeoniering. In P3Fes I spent more time in the dungeon then I did social links because I wanted to keep going up one more floor. In P4 and P5 I Sent all my time doing Social links and other activities because I didn't want to go into the dungeon. P3R 100/10 best Persona game of all time.

[Douota]

I like them all for different reasons. It's hard to pick a favorite.
P5R has tons of different things to do, and I like all the characters (Morgana excluded). I think even compared to P3R it looks the best by a mile, and it's very snappy and fun to play compared to a lot of other JRPGs. I played through P5 when it came out, then played through Royal when that was released, and enjoyed it both times (though the early game felt more tedious than the first time around). Royal's January plot was also extremely weird in a way I enjoyed. Really, most of the stuff added to Royal was great, from both writing and general experience perspectives.

I just think it was too easy thanks to how overpowered Confidants will make you early on (regardless of difficulty), how much easier Royal made it to gain social stats, and how easy it was to get massive EXP boosts in Mementos. Royal's Reaper may have been less exploitable, but the other systems in Mementos kind of made that a non-issue.

P4 is just the perfect vibe for me. I like the cast and the story, even if it wasn't anything too heavy. I didn't really care for some of the events added in Golden (the Golden era was kind of Persona's weakest era when it came to writing), but they weren't too offensive, and some of them were even fun. The battle system is less frustrating than the original P3 (at the cost of it feeling kinda repetitive), and the Social Links felt a lot less stressful. P4 probably has my favorite iteration of the daily life simulator elements and my favorite aesthetic.

I love P3 for its edginess, and it's more challenging than the other two. It has some of my favorite social links in the series, and the plot just kind of gets me in the perfect way.

[Dank Sidious]

Megabyte RSSD a écrit :

Dank Sidious a écrit :

It's not missing an entire chapter. It's missing a post-game expansion which they are again planning on releasing as an expansion in the new version of P3.

P3 was a complete game when it first came out so saying that the P3R is missing a chapter is misleading.

What's missing is the equivalent of the third semester of persona 5 royal that was added in royal. As anyone who played the game before royal knows the story was already complete before royal.

Don't care one iota when it released. It's an additional chapter which content that matters to the big picture. When a "Reload complete" edition comes out, we can talk. Till then.... no.

It doesn't matter what you care about, the fact is It's not a missing "chapter". It's a missing DLC section or that is what it would be called today. Back then it was called an expansion.

[Scryer]

Personally prefer P5 for the gameplay, music and characters. It's an entirely personal thing, but am of the opinion that be they social links or party members, P3 < P4 < P5 and hoping this trend continues with P6.

That said, P5R's new ending is a slap in the face, undermining the whole theme of 'rebellion against expectations and finding one's own way', the group being dissolved left a bitter taste in my mouth, I despise both Yoshizawa and Maruki, one for being a Mary Sue whose introduction was either 'look at this super powerful character who, without experience fighting outside one instance months ago, saved the main character from certain death' or 'look at how good, kind and virtuous she is' and the other for being a blithering idiot who fundamentally fails to realise how Humans work. At least Marie's presense was restricted to the Velvet Room and the final dungeon didn't really change anything in the grand scheme of things. Which brings us back to the ending, I don't know if anything was changed in P3R (only played P3P back in the day, great game but the 'you must do this particular event at this time, no leeway' thing they changed in P4, personal disinterest in the social links who aren't a literal machine and not finding any of the romance options particularly interesting and compulsory after getting to a certain rank in their social link were a bit offputting. Understand they removed the fatigue system, though, which is nice) and aggravating voices for certain characters.), but can't imagine anything drastic changed. P4G had some things different, but they were all added scenes, whereas P5R straight up changes things, lessening the Phantom Thieves impact (and once again, going back on the 'screw what society wants of us' motive that's been the theme of the whole game) in the final scene in favour of the two new characters.

Am biased towards P5 so voting P5R, but believe its add-ons ruin the whole story if you go for the 'tRuE eNdInG'. Strikers is by far a more worthy sequel and continuation of the story than the extra dungeon.

[ShadowLL]

rc-ham390 a écrit :

You have to keep in mind that P3R is a remake of an old game

Resident Evil 4 also remake of an old game and its a blast
Atlus just milking fans with no shame at this point

[Naoki Kashima]

P4G

[Sur_GalaHad]

3 by a new york mile.

Characters are better
music is significantly better
i like the story better
social links and stats are better