So no female character?

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Why take content out of the game and charge 70 bucks for it?

[fender178]

Because this remake is based off the Original P3 and NOT P3P.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Originally posted by fender178:

Because this remake is based off the Original P3 and NOT P3P.

That's fine, but then make it an unlockable or something.

[ValentB]

Originally posted by fender178:

Because this remake is based off the Original P3 and NOT P3P.

Stop with your wrong arguments.
Original doesn't have male party stories (which vere first based in FeMC route ironically). So if that's OK, why is it not OK to have FeMC?
And gameplay looks like it was based on P5 Royal (and Soul Hackers 2) not 2006 P3.

[fender178]

Originally posted by ValentB:

Originally posted by fender178:

Because this remake is based off the Original P3 and NOT P3P.

Stop with your wrong arguments.
Original doesn't have male party stories (which vere first based in FeMC route ironically). So if that's OK, why is it not OK to have FeMC?
And gameplay looks like it was based on P5 Royal (and Soul Hackers 2) not 2006 P3.

I was talking about Story NOT game play. Yeah there is more to the story with the side events and the new stuff with Strega but the core of the game is based off of the Original Persona 3. So my arguments are NOT wrong.

[ValentB]

Originally posted by fender178:

Originally posted by ValentB:

Stop with your wrong arguments.
Original doesn't have male party stories (which vere first based in FeMC route ironically). So if that's OK, why is it not OK to have FeMC?
And gameplay looks like it was based on P5 Royal (and Soul Hackers 2) not 2006 P3.

I was talking about Story NOT game play. Yeah there is more to the story with the side events and the new stuff with Strega but the core of the game is based off of the Original Persona 3. So my arguments are NOT wrong.

So.......they're not adding FeMC because "the core is based on Original Persona 3" but then they're adding stuff from P3P FeMC route and completely new stuff.......Makes sense right....

[Evangelion]

The female character was an addition made specifically for p3p. The psp version was likely ported specifically for that reason to preserve the route, but this remake had different priorities in delivering a complete and definitive main journey of p3. The femc was never part of that experience, so they didn't "remove" anything. The character is still what it was before.

[ValentB]

Originally posted by Evangelion:

The female character was an addition made specifically for p3p. The psp version was likely ported specifically for that reason to preserve the route, but this remake had different priorities in delivering a complete and definitive main journey of p3. The femc was never part of that experience, so they didn't "remove" anything. The character is still what it was before.

New stories and new dialogues wasn't part of that experience either.
Maybe I don't want Kouha and Eiga in my P3 that was never there.
And controllable party. LOL. That ruins nostalgia. Leave that casual crap to that "non-canon" "s**t" P3P game.

[Hymnos]

You guys need to accept FemC are not canon to the Original P3.

[Evangelion]

Originally posted by ValentB:

New stories and new dialogues wasn't part of that experience either.
Maybe I don't want Kouha and Eiga in my P3 that was never there.
And controllable party. LOL that ruins nostalgia. Leave that casual crap to that "non-canon" "s**t" P3P game.

This argument make very little sense. Where did they ever claim they wanted to make a 1:1 from the original. They want to stay true to the originals narrative, which they can very much still do while adding new content to expand that narrative, which is what they did. The femc did not follow that narrative, as they also tell you in portable with the route not being the way they intend for you to experience the games main story. And comparing new story content to the main route with a large amount of improvements to an entire new protagonist isn't exatly a valid comparison. And like I said, one would argue many would much rather have them prioritize the main route, rather than them delivering 2 flawed experiences again like p3p.

[ValentB]

Originally posted by Evangelion:

Originally posted by ValentB:

New stories and new dialogues wasn't part of that experience either.
Maybe I don't want Kouha and Eiga in my P3 that was never there.
And controllable party. LOL that ruins nostalgia. Leave that casual crap to that "non-canon" "s**t" P3P game.

This argument make very little sense. Where did they ever claim they wanted to make a 1:1 from the original. They want to stay true to the originals narrative, which they can still do while adding new content to expand that narrative. The femc did not respect that original narrative, as they also tell you in portable with the route not being the way they intend for you to experience the games main story. And comparing new story content to the main route with a large amount of improvements to an entire new protagonist isn't exatly a valid comparison. And like I said, one would argue they would much rather have them prioritize the main route, rather than them delivering 2 flawed experiences again like p3p.

Flawed? P3P is as good as original and actually faithful unlike this P5R-SH2-SMT5 clone.
FeMC respected original very fine. Even more than that unoriginal dull boring dork MC.

So you don't mind P3R to be unfaithful to original and be a mish-mash of everything Atlus did, you just hate FeMC.

Well then how about Maya or Ringo as FeMC in this?

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by ValentB:

Originally posted by Evangelion:

This argument make very little sense. Where did they ever claim they wanted to make a 1:1 from the original. They want to stay true to the originals narrative, which they can still do while adding new content to expand that narrative. The femc did not respect that original narrative, as they also tell you in portable with the route not being the way they intend for you to experience the games main story. And comparing new story content to the main route with a large amount of improvements to an entire new protagonist isn't exatly a valid comparison. And like I said, one would argue they would much rather have them prioritize the main route, rather than them delivering 2 flawed experiences again like p3p.

Flawed? P3P is as good as original and actually faithful unlike this P5R-SH2-SMT5 clone.
FeMC respected original very fine. Even more than that unoriginal dull boring dork MC.

So you don't mind P3R to be unfaithful to original and be a mish-mash of everything Atlus did, you just hate FeMC.

Well then how about Maya or Ringo as FeMC in this?

No it isn't, the original is a game, P3P is a visual novel.

[2D神]

The amount of we want FeMC is kinda weird. I remember back in the day most P3 fans didn't really care much about it and as well as the Answer.

[Evangelion]

Originally posted by ValentB:

Flawed? P3P is as good as original and actually faithful unlike this P5R-SH2-SMT5 clone.
FeMC respected original very fine. Even more than that unoriginal dull boring dork MC.

So you don't mind P3R to be unfaithful to original and be a mish-mash of everything Atlus did, you just hate FeMC.

Well then how about Maya or Ringo as FeMC in this?

Very much disagree, nothing about changing major events is "faithul", and neither is completely changing the tone or aesthethic. With that comment alone, I know enough. There is no point in having this conversation with someone who clearly has no clue what hes talking about, and knows little to nothing about p3's narrative and themes

You also clealy hate the actual protagonist of p3, a little biased aren't you?

And I very much like Maya, I would not oppose a p2 remake at all. I would also never oppose a female lead in p6, but hopefully a better one than this. You are also making it sound like they are entitled to include the option for p3, when they are very much in their right not to.

[ValentB]

Originally posted by Tr0w:

Originally posted by ValentB:

Flawed? P3P is as good as original and actually faithful unlike this P5R-SH2-SMT5 clone.
FeMC respected original very fine. Even more than that unoriginal dull boring dork MC.

So you don't mind P3R to be unfaithful to original and be a mish-mash of everything Atlus did, you just hate FeMC.

Well then how about Maya or Ringo as FeMC in this?

No it isn't, the original is a game, P3P is a visual novel.

So original P3 has no story or is it told via full GTA/Yakuza-like cutscenes?

Same visual novel as P3P only you walk around instead of moving cursor or fast travelling.

By this logic P4 is visual novel too.

[Yürei]

Originally posted by Evangelion:

Originally posted by ValentB:

Flawed? P3P is as good as original and actually faithful unlike this P5R-SH2-SMT5 clone.
FeMC respected original very fine. Even more than that unoriginal dull boring dork MC.

So you don't mind P3R to be unfaithful to original and be a mish-mash of everything Atlus did, you just hate FeMC.

Well then how about Maya or Ringo as FeMC in this?

Very much disagree, nothing about changing major events is "faithul", and neither is completely chaning the tone or aesthethic. With that comment alone, I know enough. There is no point in having this conversation with someone who clearly has no clue what hes talking about, and knows little to nothing about p3's narrative and themes

You also clealy hate the actual protagonist of p3, a little biased aren't you?

And I very much like Maya, I would not oppose a p2 remake at all. I would also never oppose a female lead in p6, but hopefully a better one than this. You are also making it sound like they are entitled to include the option for p3, when they are very much in their right not to.

Best to stop. ValentB is a troll that likes to get people angry with questionable takes. For example, when P4 ultimax released on steam. They were constantly complaining about how it wasn't P5R. P5R came out on steam and they swapped to complaining about the price of the game despite clearly wanting it badly. They have a habit of putting words in people's mouths to better serve their side of the argument. Don't feed the troll.