$70 for an incomplete remake

[tanbanan]

The only thing that would slightly justify the high price tag is if this remake were the definitive edition of Persona 3, but that's not the case given the lack of anticipated features like The Answer from FES and FeMC from portable. Without these features, this remake is just another edition of P3 and does not deserve a higher price tag than FES or Portable.

[YoTomeme]

I mean it doesn't say FES remake or Portable remake. Look at the quality of the game though, the game looks amazing.

[Evangelion]

None of those features are a necessity to persona 3's story except maybe the Answer, but how surprised are you that Atlus abandoned the Answer after it was so poorly received?

Besides, if you had actually seen any of the trailers you would know how much new content there truly is, it's a triple A game that took years of development. This is how the industry is, why would p3re be any different? And again, for most people this will be the first time playing p3re, this is how Atlus wanted p3 to be experienced and it is unquestionably in it's best state with how many improvements we have seen so far.

And it seems pretty definitive to me, there likely wont be any re-releases after this one considering the devs were happy with the product and wanted the name to resemble the definitive version of p5r. All new people will come to reload and from this point on it will be packaged as P4G, P5R and P3RE, not p3p

[tanbanan]

Calling this the definitive version of the game because of better graphics and new socials events is kind of dumb, sorry. Also, arguing about the "necessity" of certain contents is a useless argument. FeMC was a huge appeal to Portable and is the reason why people have argued on which version of the game people should play. removing FeMC from the remake because it is not a "necesary" feature is stupid.

Atlus themselves don't agree with you about P3R being the definitive edition of the game, which is why they released Portable on steam in the first place, because FeMC very much IS a necessity to a lot of fans. People will keep arguing in the future about which game is the one that people should play; a the version with the answer, the version with FeMC, or the version with better graphics and modern gameplay standards.

"This is how the industry is", as the industry is looking like now, we have the most complete, gargantuan projects like Baldur's Gate 3 released for $60. This is how it should be. There is no use in justifying companies charging you an arbitrarily extra high price for an incomplete game, let alone a remake.

Companies aren't your friends. You do not have to justify their greed.

[Evangelion]

Originally posted by TanBanan:

Calling this the definitive version of the game because of better graphics and new socials events is kind of dumb, sorry. Also, arguing about the "necessity" of certain contents is a useless argument. FeMC was a huge appeal to Portable and is the reason why people have argued on which version of the game people should play. removing FeMC from the remake because it is not a "necesary" feature is stupid.

You literally go against your own point bro. Femc was one of the only appeals to play portable, so why would people still play portable if she was also in p3re. No one would want to buy that powerpoint slideshow. Atlus purposely put p3p on all platforms because they knew they weren't going to add her to the remake, because she is not a necessity to p3's story. P3P quite literally tells you makoto is the intended protagonist

Originally posted by TanBanan:

There is no use in justifying companies charging you an arbitrarily extra high price for an incomplete game, let alone a remake. Companies aren't your friends. You do not have to justify their greed.

It's pretty complete to me, in fact it's more than complete, it's better than I could have possibly imagined. I'm not justifying their greed, only correcting people who spread misinformation. I don't care about the extra 10 dollars it's worth it to me.

[Astolfo]

atlus will resell persona 3 reload in few years and add answers and femc
Persona 3 Reloading Answers edition and course you need pay again 70e

there is also day one dlc

[Foulcher]

I like Persona, but Atlus is one of the scummiest game company.
And their community is one of the most compliant I have seen (even more than Square Enix fanboys). They will explain everything "they are a small company with small revenues" (LOL), "the crappy P3P port is fine, this is the ultimate version", "they cannot offer a small discount on P5R for P5 owners", "P5R is a completely different game". Stockholm syndrome is high among Atlus fanboys.

If you are accustomed to Atlus, just wait the definitive-definitive version. Or if you buy both, wait for 75% off, you will feel less ripped off.

[tanbanan]

Originally posted by Evangelion:

Originally posted by TanBanan:

Calling this the definitive version of the game because of better graphics and new socials events is kind of dumb, sorry. Also, arguing about the "necessity" of certain contents is a useless argument. FeMC was a huge appeal to Portable and is the reason why people have argued on which version of the game people should play. removing FeMC from the remake because it is not a "necesary" feature is stupid.

You literally go against your own point bro. Femc was one of the only appeals to play portable, so why tf would people still play portable if she was also in p3re. No one would want to buy that powerpoint slideshow. Atlus purposely put p3p on all platforms because they knew they weren't going to add her to the remake, because she is not a necessity to p3's story. P3P literally tells you makoto is the intended protagonist, read

Originally posted by TanBanan:

Atlus themselves don't agree with you about P3R being the definitive edition of the game, which is why they released Portable on steam in the first place, People will keep arguing in the future about which game is the one that people should play

They literally said so in an interview but I'm sure you haven't seen that either. Also absolutely not, if anyone tells you to play p3p above the remake for anything other than to play as a woman they should be emitted into arkham asylum

Originally posted by TanBanan:

There is no use in justifying companies charging you an arbitrarily extra high price for an incomplete game, let alone a remake. Companies aren't your friends. You do not have to justify their greed.

It's pretty complete to me, in fact it's more than complete, it's better than I could have possibly imagined. I'm not justifying their greed, only correcting people who spread misinformation. I don't care about the extra 10 dollars it's worth it to me. Videogames are expensive and the triple A prices went up, so what you get an 80hr masterpiece

The point is that P3R SHOULD be the definitive edition of P3. I thought I made that clear, but it's not which is why portable is on steam. The purpose of a remake is to do just that, make it the best possible version of the game. If the base game is enough for you, fine. We are not you.
For $70, that's $10 more than Baldur's Gate 3 which has set the standard for AAA games, it is perfectly reasonable to expect what truly is the definitive P3 experience. If people have to buy two, or even three versions of the game to get the full experience then $70 for one version is ridiculous.

"They literally said so in an interview but I'm sure you haven't seen that either. Also absolutely not, if anyone tells you to play p3p above the remake for anything other than to play as a woman they should be emitted into arkham asylum" you are not taking yourself seriously, lmao. If you do not understand the appeal of portable, why are you even arguing about this?? You need to stop.

"she is not a necessity to p3's story" Nobody is saying she is.

"so what you get an 80hr masterpiece" You get an 80+hr masterpiece with P3P and P3FES aswell, but with more content and for a much cheaper price.

[tanbanan]

Originally posted by Astolfo:

atlus will resell persona 3 reload in few years and add answers and femc
Persona 3 Reloading Answers edition and course you need pay again 70e

there is also day one dlc

All for the low-low price of $159 + day-one DLC. Gobble it up, Atlus-fans.

Originally posted by Foulcher:

I like Persona, but Atlus is one of the scummiest game company.
And their community is one of the most compliant I have seen (even more than Square Enix fanboys). They will explain everything "they are a small company with small revenues" (LOL), "the crappy P3P port is fine, this is the ultimate version", "they cannot offer a small discount on P5R for P5 owners", "P5R is a completely different game".

If you are accustomed to Atlus, just wait the definitive-definitive version. Or if you buy both, wait for 75% off, you will feel less ripped off.

The fact that this is not a bit exaggerated. Why do people defend this? From what I can understand in this thread, it's that "games take time to make UwU, small indie company plz understand". Atlus doesn't lose any money by selling a remake (a brilliant, over and beyond remake, but a remake nonetheless) at a fair price. They are pulling out the shrewdest, greediest money-making strategies and people are defenting them just because they make good games.

[Foulcher]

Originally posted by Evangelion:

Originally posted by Foulcher:

I like Persona, but Atlus is one of the scummiest game company.
And their community is one of the most compliant I have seen (even more than Square Enix fanboys). They will explain everything "they are a small company with small revenues" (LOL), "the crappy P3P port is fine, this is the ultimate version", "they cannot offer a small discount on P5R for P5 owners", "P5R is a completely different game".

If you are accustomed to Atlus, just wait the definitive-definitive version. Or if you buy both, wait for 75% off, you will feel less ripped off.

Mf do you actually refuse to read anything and just hop in to say something?
There is very good indication that a remake wont be re-released, and if you actually thought about it for a second theres a very clear reason for that half assed portable remaster. They knew they weren't going to add femc so they ported portable as a means of still giving people the chance while also getting money out of it

Thanks for illustrating my point about Atlus fanboys
My post was not only about this remake alone and releasing an overpriced and crappy P3P port (they should be ashamed of themselves to sell such a bad port at this price) a bit before, of course without announcing a remake is a great move of Atlus. They are specialists of the psychology of the fanboy.

[tanbanan]

"They knew they weren't going to add femc so they ported portable as a means of still giving people the chance while also getting money out of it". You admit that you need to buy two or more versions of the same game, amounting to $90+, just to get the full experience? You think that's an alright strategy that more game companies should do?

[Foulcher]

Originally posted by TanBanan:

"They knew they weren't going to add femc so they ported portable as a means of still giving people the chance while also getting money out of it". You admit that you need to buy two or more versions of the same game, amounting to $90+, just to get the full experience? You think that's an alright strategy that more game companies should do?

A "chance"...fanboys are really funny. A 20 dollars "chance".
Some companies include old versions of their games in a remake. This is not that common but I prefer to reward such companies than the ones like Atlus.

[tanbanan]

"The remake of p3's story in general is pretty definitive TO ME" well good for you??? We don't agree??? Man you need to learn when to give up.
"Femc is quite literally the only appeal portable has" Ok? The point?

You downplay The Answer and FeMC because "ermm they aren't important to the story lmao so who cares". I hope you understand why I don't take that seriously

[Evangelion]

Originally posted by TanBanan:

"They knew they weren't going to add femc so they ported portable as a means of still giving people the chance while also getting money out of it". You admit that you need to buy two or more versions of the same game, amounting to $90+, just to get the full experience? You think that's an alright strategy that more game companies should do?

Bro where did I say I support Atlus their decisions. I am just clarifying why it exists or why they ported it to begin with. I'm not saying it's a good thing I couldn't care less about the portable edition. You don't have to buy anything it's a choice

The "full" experience of playing through the same game but with femc isn't something many people care about

[tanbanan]

"The full experience of playing through the game with femc isn't something many people care about" oh, it's not??? Well I'm just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clueless I guess. Every single p3 fan that I know were just faking. Damn.

"Bro where did I say I support Atlus their decisions" why the ♥♥♥♥ did you enter the thread to begin with you illiterate ♥♥♥♥??? Learn the difference between acting stupid and trolling. You are failing to do the latter.

[Kustogg]

The answer was universally disliked with its initial reception. Only recently has it gained a following that has.. most likely I have to say never played it. Unless it goes under significant reworking then it should stay out of the game if the majority of actual players disliked it and since the entire dev team also played the game, I don't know what they thought of The Answer but most likely not a positive one. The Answer is a DLC, not a full game. If we get it, it will be as DLC. As for FEMC, Portable is literally on Steam