Shipbuilding (With a blueprint)

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First off you need the blueprint. Easier said than done. Other threads on those.
Secondly it is possible to get any ship via random builds. Gotta be lucky though. That makes this whole system redundant but at the same time takes the random out of the result. Depends what you input. Also note that a ship built via random with tacky components CAN result in the same ship that you craft with a blueprint and the best components. Again this system simply removes the random. Worth it? Not sure since you can save scum...

The superb components required by the best ships are from guild upgraded ship component shops. Each shop usually has one type of superb component so you will ultimately require several shops upgraded.

Shipbuilding skill - when you build a ship it will say your skill and then the number of 'Entries possible'. These entries are the bonus stats and the amount awarded are random up to the maximum. You can roll 0. More later.

The way I do mine requires several quite specific things.
First I upgrade my town to max. It must have a shipyard (duh) and if it has a ship component shop so much the better. It MUST have a post for expeditions to do this as I suggest. This post is important. Again more later.

I made 'Ship of the Line'. What I assume to be the largest of the 'English' ships. No promises there. I will try to random something bigger later.
Because these come standard with max weaponry attribute I added purple star gold ingots.

So... With all my supplies on hand and upgrades done what I do is this.

Save your game in the town.
Commence your build in the shipyard using your blueprint and gold.
Go to your post and commence an expedition.
Wander around in there on flat ground (1 supply per day) and do NOTHING in there other than wander around aimlessly.
Leave after the number of days required to craft your ship and collect your ship.
Check it's bonus skills. If you don't roll max then repeat till you do and make sure it's good ones. Some are not really useful and others are.
Once you are happy make it your flagship as I doubt very much the bonus on other fleet ships matter so you can just make whatever to fill those.
I actually kept my better rolls of 4 bonus until I got one with 5. 5 requires 12 shipbuilding skill.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2918861354
I do not have 4 +shipbuilding items for my shipbuilder so it can go above 12 I assume. I do not know the cap on skill or max bonus you can have.

Some of these ideas easily translate across to other ways of crafting ships. Like using the post and save scumming builds. I believe that you must have a save before you commit to a build because I believe the resulting ship and all it's bonus skills are determined at this point. Saving anywhere after this point will net you the exact same result every time. I tested it. Might be exceptions but I didn't find one. So save before you commit to a build and using a post is the fastest way I found to speed the days up.

Hope it helps.

[Holyark]

Which ports are better in Europe region to use this trick?

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Originally posted by Holyark:

Which ports are better in Europe region to use this trick?

This was a learning curve for me and I made mistakes with my choices. What you should do is go to your map. Select each town. Press 'Q' to open the legend and see if it has a ship component vendor, a shipyard and a post. I do not know a combo of all 3 offhand and my game is closed so I cannot check.

[ZarethKnyght]

Not sure about Europe but Kolkata has all 3 from what I saw. Sadly, i'm lacking blueprints...and ship parts.

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Originally posted by ZarethKnyght:

Not sure about Europe but Kolkata has all 3 from what I saw. Sadly, i'm lacking blueprints...and ship parts.

If you can buy the 4 parts of value 40k each (I think) it is possible to smash those into a random. Save before you commit. Immediately check the number of days it takes to craft and if it is a long time let it bake. You CAN get big ships this way. Could get lucky. Could take ages. These will be the most expensive parts available prior to upgrading with a guild and I cannot be sure ALL are 40k. Some might be less but get the most expensive of each type and have a crack.

For example a Ship of the Line takes 50 days to make. The same gear can craft a ship of 30 days. So obviously if you get the 30 you ahould reload. But be aware that multiple ships CAN take 50 days so it's not guaranteed you will get a SotL you might get a 'Big Harry'. Might be other possibilities too.

[ZarethKnyght]

I'll play around with it after I develop Kolkota a bit more. I need to spend some time making money.

[Antiga]

The least important of these is the expedition post. There is really no must for it at all, except to perhaps save yourself a bit of time save scumming. It's a convenience at best.

You can make a day pass simply by going into a building and choosing at least 1 interaction. So just checking the prices of the store, leaving the store, coming back and repeat, will pass a day each time. Expedition post would speed up the process a bit.

Thanks though, this is pretty useful information.

[Holyark]

So is Seville one of the better ports to invest in since it has a shipyard and ship material store

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Originally posted by Antiga:

The least important of these is the expedition post. There is really no must for it at all, except to perhaps save yourself a bit of time save scumming. It's a convenience at best.

You can make a day pass simply by going into a building and choosing at least 1 interaction. So just checking the prices of the store, leaving the store, coming back and repeat, will pass a day each time. Expedition post would speed up the process a bit.

Thanks though, this is pretty useful information.

You are not wrong but try it. It's the least painful way of doing it I found. And I say MUST only in so much as to do it my way it must be there. Not that it's the only way of advancing time. You can just go in and count off 50 movements and come out. Easy. You could go sailing. Maybe what you suggest works. Good luck keeping track though. Then again checking the timer on the build probably counts too.

Originally posted by Holyark:

So is Seville one of the better ports to invest in since it has a shipyard and ship material store

I built up Seville. I did my thing in London though. I do not know what ships Seville produces. With a blueprint it probably doesn't matter but if you want to try your luck at randomly getting a big ship it might matter. I do not know.

[MustBeDone (J.B.)]

Is building a ship significantly better than buying the same one from shipyard? Or is it worth the time and cost effective?

I just bought all ship of lines from a NPC, I wonder if there’s a big difference. Looking at the screen shot above.. looks pretty close, can’t remember the exact numbers.

Thanks for posting tips

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Originally posted by MustBeDone (John B):

Is building a ship significantly better than buying the same one from shipyard? Or is it worth the time and cost effective?

I just bought all ship of lines from a NPC, I wonder if there’s a big difference. Looking at the screen shot above.. looks pretty close, can’t remember the exact numbers.

Thanks for posting tips

I do not think purchased ones have the bonus attributes. I think my picture above shows the 5 it has. See if yours have any of those. What you get when you craft is based on your shipbuilding skill and I doubt that can count with an NPC. I do not know.

[ZarethKnyght]

Correct based on the shipbuilding I did at lower levels. No bonuses when buying the pre-made. Making it will allow for bonus boosts.

[cleavertrash]

athens-Large carrak blueprint
Alexandria-Galleas blueprint
Zhangzhou-Shachuan blueprint
Seville-Large Caravel) blueprint
Sakai ????? blueprint
london-galleon blueprint
cape verde -arab wind sail ship blueprint
st george- carving skill dolphin blueprint
Buenos-Aires long barreled cannons blueprint

this is the list i have as of right now

[Toger]

to add to this

Originally posted by cleavertrash:

athens-Large carrak blueprint
Alexandria-Galleas blueprint
Zhangzhou-Shachuan blueprint
Seville-Large Caravel) blueprint
Sakai ????? blueprint
london-galleon blueprint
cape verde -arab wind sail ship blueprint
st george- carving skill dolphin blueprint
Buenos-Aires long barreled cannons blueprint

this is the list i have as of right now

to add to this,

Schooner in Havana - 1 Premium velvet
Cutter in San Juan - Must be able to sail from Caribbean to Africa and back in 35 days ( you only get 1 chance at this!)

[Midas]

First arbour ERngland Plymouth, gives a quest to hunt a pirate for 500, after that you get the blue print for the ship of the line

[*! Akster !*]

Shipbuildign is a complete waste of time anyway, long before you even get the components required you will have maxed out the guild development in a town and just buy the largest ships outright....

Really dissapointing the one time i tried to make a ship and used yellow rare parts I just got a chinese sloop when ic ould have just bought the Largest ships already.

What is even the point.

Never even seen a blueprint anywhere, 40 hours in and probably nearly finished all there is for the Chinese campaign.