Jagged Alliance 2 - Wildfire

Jagged Alliance 2 - Wildfire

Vamrem Dec 2, 2024 @ 7:14pm
Differences between versions?
I have 3 different games on my store:

- Jagged Alliance 2 - Wildfire
- Jagged Alliance 2: Gold Pack
- Jagged Alliance 2 Gold: Unfinished Business

I assume Gold Pack means all in one, but Unfinished Business and Wildfire are included in Gold Pack? If not, what means gold pack? Confused...

Edit: By experimenting, when clicking "store page"

- the first is the same
- the second changes its name to: Jagged Alliance 2 Gold
- and the third goes also to the same page as the second.

Seems to be only 2 versions, but with 3 games in my list? More confussed...
Last edited by Vamrem; Dec 3, 2024 @ 4:07am
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JandarGame Dec 3, 2024 @ 4:52am 
Unfinished business have unfinished error:85, at least it appears on Win10 x64. Haven't tested it on Win7 or 8 or 11. In other words UB doesn't work on Win10. Wildfire comes in a kit with classic Ja2 as DLC (v1.06). And Ja2 Gold is classic Ja2 patched to v1.12 and doesn't have russian version of audio. If you want to play UB, I recommend to ask here people who tested it on Win 7,8 or 11. If it appears that Steam version is broken, then I recommend to buy GOG version of Ja2 UB (it works on Win10, tested)

Hint: read reviews and discussions about the game you want to buy before you buy it. It can help to make wright decision.
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Vamrem Dec 3, 2024 @ 6:12am 
Originally posted by JandarGame:
Unfinished business have unfinished error:85, at least it appears on Win10 x64. Haven't tested it on Win7 or 8 or 11. In other words UB doesn't work on Win10. Wildfire comes in a kit with classic Ja2 as DLC (v1.06). And Ja2 Gold is classic Ja2 patched to v1.12 and doesn't have russian version of audio. If you want to play UB, I recommend to ask here people who tested it on Win 7,8 or 11. If it appears that Steam version is broken, then I recommend to buy GOG version of Ja2 UB (it works on Win10, tested)

Hint: read reviews and discussions about the game you want to buy before you buy it. It can help to make wright decision.
According I understand is:
- Jagged Alliance 2 - Wildfire (is both versions, HD + classic).
- Jagged Alliance 2 Gold: Unfinished Business (is a DLC. not working Steam on w10)

And what is this?
- Jagged Alliance 2: Gold Pack
This game "store page" links to the same page as Unfinished Business: "Jagged Alliance 2 Gold" (which has another different name).
JandarGame Dec 4, 2024 @ 8:01am 
I buyed them all long time ago - so I don't remember what belongs to what. Ask others - maybe they can help you out.
Originally posted by Vamrem:
I have 3 different games on my store:

- Jagged Alliance 2 - Wildfire
- Jagged Alliance 2: Gold Pack
- Jagged Alliance 2 Gold: Unfinished Business

I assume Gold Pack means all in one, but Unfinished Business and Wildfire are included in Gold Pack? If not, what means gold pack? Confused...

Edit: By experimenting, when clicking "store page"

- the first is the same
- the second changes its name to: Jagged Alliance 2 Gold
- and the third goes also to the same page as the second.

Seems to be only 2 versions, but with 3 games in my list? More confussed...

Ok, don't quote me on all the info here, but here is what I think i know (I also have all 3):
- JA2 Gold: I don't know what the Gold does (maybe newer patch/update) but this is basicaly the base JA2 game, it opens in 800/600 resolution on steam, playable but very streched out, it's the base experience. Sometimes tends to softlock when enemy/you interrupts the other side, that's why I never recommend ironman mode.
- JA2 Gold Unfinished business: (Again, no idea about the gold, maybe newer/patched version) That is basically a small independant side story (look at it like a dlc/expansion) that plays after the main story and, it it crashes. No, really, I had unfinished business on CD back in 2006 in Windows XP, you open the in game laptop and game crashes, so I could always only do 1 sector, so just skip it
- JA2 Wildfire: As far as I know, JA2 was very popular and fans made some mods/patches for it, the new devs/publishers really liked them and thus made wildfire, which is basically a slightly re-told story of JA2 with slightly different mechanics/weapons/QoL improveemnts/cities and zones are also a bit changed -> more rooms to climb, enemy also on roofs, bigger squads, more enemies and so on. Also, WAAAAAYYYYYY harder than JA2, you can try to use a high accuracy merk with a sniper and still miss, where the enemy can shoot a regular handgun from 10 miles away and headshot you... Basically the version I LOVE and recommend, the window scale is better (I think 1600x900 or something, so way more playable), most miliary bases have mines, mines everywhere, they go crazy on the mines!!! and many doors are boobietrapped with explosives/electric traps (well, more realistic i guess). Only issue i found with wildfire is entering a new zone, the tactical screen is just black (people also wrote on steam about it) but how you can "fix" it is, just play with manual saves, save before moving, pick a random arrival point since you see nothing, arrive at the new sector and see how the map layout looks, then reload and then plan where you want to arrive.
Vamrem Feb 24 @ 6:56pm 
So, in short: JA2 (original) JA2ub (extra mission) JA2wf (same JA2 but modded).

Thanks!
Originally posted by Vamrem:
So, in short: JA2 (original) JA2ub (extra mission) JA2wf (same JA2 but modded).

Thanks!
NP
Yup, pretty much, I would still recommend directly playing Ja2wf (maybe on Novice difficulty, as it will be frustrating on higher, if you never played JA1) for the best experience, since JA2 is just buggy, JA2ub will crash and not work.
P.S. I heared there is the "v1.13" mod for the JA2, which is an engine modification and people concider it the best and definite version, but it is way too complicated for me to understand how to use it, so I never dabbled into it.
Have fun playing!
Last edited by TheKyoshiroFan; Feb 24 @ 7:06pm
awg Feb 25 @ 11:38pm 
The Classic version supplied with Wildfire is very old (v 1.03). I had to apply at least three patches to make it equal to the latest possible version 1.07.

I also deleted ddraw.dll and RunGame.bat, made a copy of JA2.EXE and renamed it to RunGame.bat. This made the game running perfectly fine for me, otherwise the game could only launch every other time.

I couldn't play Wildfire because the text is very tiny in the game. I guess it's due to the different resolution comparing to the Classic version.

Cannot say anything about Gold version as I don't have it here on Steam. Though I'm sure it is possible to make it work and not crash after some tinkering.
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