nerf boss characters

[kumokiri]

or you mean to tell me they are supposed to be stronger than the base roster in a competitive game marketed for esports play, and i have to accept that

anyway nerf belial, he's one of them

i like this game but i hate waiting a lifetime for patches
live service FGs ain't it

[DarkLeafNinja]

7 frame f.m with quick recovery luci is fair.
fullscreen carry from anything versussy is fair.
belial that excel at everything is fair.
bubs idunno, the only annoying thing i can say is his dive and U karma.

[Gloom]

Yea, most of the balance issues are specific to boss characters.

[永久に]

Originally posted by kumokiri:

i like this game but i hate waiting a lifetime for patches
live service FGs ain't it

It's Cygames, slow and delay are their motto.

[VayneCalibur]

Lucilius is just crazy. He is able to build up his stacks/meter by whiffing his specials. Even on block he still gets to build up his stacks.
Since patch 1.5 his gameplan revolves around using his H specials on cooldown without any risk or thought behind his actions. Once he is on level 5, it's over and there's nothing you can do to avoid that, he is able to convert every normal into +7000 damage, can use both SBA and SSBA even in mid screen.

Devs went nuts buffing his damage and stack gain, specially when he was already damn good (a character that skips neutral with almost anything on his kit). Lucilius needs to either lose the stack gain on whiff/block or have like 14k health.

Belial being plus on every button he presses without any risk is also problematic.

[永久に]

Faa was under perform initially due to his gimmick.
It's good that they buff his gimmick in 1.5 but buffing the other part is definitely feel unnecessary.

[kumokiri]

i dont like A. Belial either

his projectiles are pretty good for controlling neutral

he can convert into combos off all skills and they can be long and pretty damaging even if he's burning his own hp doing that divekick cancel
i also don't like how his SSBA is also a grab which he can just purposely burn hp to access it early

say what you want about "fake pressure" though, I've fought actually good avatar players who don't simply spam dp and his command grab to waste hp on free combos
he's a more reaction-heavy matchup

[DarkLeafNinja]

Originally posted by kumokiri:

i dont like A. Belial either

his projectiles are pretty good for controlling neutral

he can convert into combos off all skills and they can be long and pretty damaging even if he's burning his own hp doing that divekick cancel
i also don't like how his SSBA is also a grab which he can just purposely burn hp to access it early

say what you want about "fake pressure" though, I've fought actually good avatar players who don't simply spam dp and his command grab to waste hp on free combos
he's a more reaction-heavy matchup

it's dumb af that his follow up kick hit's you mid air unless you are at the top of the screen.

[Gloom]

I liked him more before the last balance patch, now he take most of your life even easier. Lot of the times I do win its only because he did most of the damage to himself...

[Black-o-White]

? ? ?
Versusia is super weak.
Lucilius is basically a disabled person with crutches.
Beelzebub is just solid good character. Nothing out of ordinary.
Belial is irritating as s**t, i agree, but that's just it, he's not ultra OP, you just gonna know how to deal with him and pay attention to his actions.
ABel is just killing himself for the whole match.
So... What's your problem???

[VayneCalibur]

Originally posted by Black-o-White:

? ? ?
Versusia is super weak.
Lucilius is basically a disabled person with crutches.
Beelzebub is just solid good character. Nothing out of ordinary.
Belial is irritating as s**t, i agree, but that's just it, he's not ultra OP, you just gonna know how to deal with him and pay attention to his actions.
ABel is just killing himself for the whole match.
So... What's your problem???

Belial and Lucilius are probably top two characters right now, if you are not able to see this you have "the problem".

[Black-o-White]

Originally posted by VayneCalibur:

Originally posted by Black-o-White:

? ? ?
Versusia is super weak.
Lucilius is basically a disabled person with crutches.
Beelzebub is just solid good character. Nothing out of ordinary.
Belial is irritating as s**t, i agree, but that's just it, he's not ultra OP, you just gonna know how to deal with him and pay attention to his actions.
ABel is just killing himself for the whole match.
So... What's your problem???

Belial and Lucilius are probably top two characters right now, if you are not able to see this you have "the problem".

Not my problem, but yours.
"Skill issue" it is called.

[VayneCalibur]

Originally posted by Black-o-White:

Originally posted by VayneCalibur:

Belial and Lucilius are probably top two characters right now, if you are not able to see this you have "the problem".

Not my problem, but yours.
"Skill issue" it is called.

"Everyone's skill issue" it is called I guess. Go check people's tier list who have several characters at Master and then come back again.
The fact that you can't see how Lucilius' disjointed normals, along with his gameplan, is an issue for a fighting game, clearly shows how "skilled" you are regarding Fighting games in general.

[卡玛丘诺]

nerf 2b as well

[DarkLeafNinja]

Originally posted by カマチュノ:

nerf 2b as well

just change her entire gameplay. why did they think it was a good idea to make her play an entirely different game. double jump, air delay, massive and fast attacks, whiff cancel and the list goes on. she should never have been added to this game in the first place.

[kumokiri]

Originally posted by DarkLeafNinja:

Originally posted by カマチュノ:

nerf 2b as well

just change her entire gameplay. why did they think it was a good idea to make her play an entirely different game. double jump, air delay, massive and fast attacks, whiff cancel and the list goes on. she should never have been added to this game in the first place.

i tend to forget about 2b because i am actively avoiding 2b players
her gameplan is dumb as the bosses and since she's bottom row with the boss characters i'd call her one of them too

2b is just an overloaded kit with no 66L she's definitely playing her own game and it's not gbvsr idk how they plan on balancing her

paid to double jump