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Accendo 2024년 11월 11일 오전 9시 14분
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I've been dealing with something for a long time, so i'mma just be brief about it.
Now people wanna mention how good the Granblue Community is in and sing its praises alot. But there's actually things that get covered up and twisted, and one of those things are stuff that happened to me.

I endured harassment for the past 4 years over a Granblue Character and Primal Beast named Satyr and it was because of this character, that people held misunderstandings about Primal Beasts. Because of lines in an event people didn't have the reading comprehension to understand. Which is ironic cuz some of these same people will at times be calling others tourists. I have had disgusting things that have nothing to do with this character or the lore be forced onto me in multiple ways. It can be viewed in this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1piz002jMZ-f3kRscNVaxv3Ft3iRKc_LnNR19diTQAQo
(The doc has alot of pages but its really no different from a picture book with links, so don't downplay it for the page number that is there, because its been 4 years.)

I love the lore of this game, and have been helping people better understand that lore. But these crazy, stalking, rumor spreading individuals try to twist everything about my situation and the character, then proceed to turn it all into a joke as they get away with everything. Because I don't have a voice. People also don't like it when others do this and even people in Japan disliked it when people acted this way.

(They also went as far as to false report my Twitter account over being told they were wrong about things regarding me and the character's lore):
https://imgur.com/a/Mvg0QnQ
https://imgur.com/a/EaIKUKx

The fact of the matter is that she is a biological woman, and Primal Beasts are Immutable. But what is forced onto me is that she is the opposite of these things when it isn't true and they just have not read the story. The immutability of a Primal Beast is the thing that sets them apart from everything and anyone else in the story and is a source of suffering or strife and character development that the race goes through.

Edit: There's someone spamming Jester awards obnoxiously some of which who may have commented here, so pay it no mind as it has no baring on the information given here. It really just backs up what i'm saying more.

Edit2: People from twitter are now flooding here in their rage over their gender/sex obsession with the character and proving my point.

https://x.com/idolmomentum/status/1858624845015380346
https://x.com/revolvyrn/status/1858622950276030528

[More proof of the post being raided by people twisting the situation]:
https://imgur.com/a/ImB23Dg
https://imgur.com/a/7WW08vp

[The people that raided this post are now twisting and lying about the situation, but compare what they're saying to the document and you'll easily notice they're lying. I will not be interacting with these crazy gender/sex cyber terrorists.]
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Accendo 2024년 11월 18일 오후 6시 55분 
Masu님이 먼저 게시:
Taco님이 먼저 게시:
It seems like you're frustrated, and I want to address this with clarity and fairness. Here's the issue at the core of this: the way you approach disagreements about interpretations of the character, especially when they involve trans representation, does come across as hostile and dismissive toward the transgender community.

If people headcanon Satyr as trans, that doesn’t take away from your own interpretation. Art and fandoms thrive on diverse perspectives. However, repeatedly trying to “correct” others or calling their interpretations degrading sends the message that you see trans representation as inherently negative or incorrect, even if that's not your intent.

When you engage with fanartists or community members in a way that feels accusatory or dismissive—like framing their work as part of a "fight" against you—it alienates people. It’s okay to have a different opinion, but it’s not okay to turn it into an argument every time someone sees the character differently.

You don't have to agree with every interpretation, but respecting others’ perspectives is key to avoiding unnecessary conflict. Maybe it's time to ask yourself why these headcanons bother you so much and if there's a way to engage with the community more positively.
funni taco man

Well I have fully proven you raided this post to harass me over a character you guys have zero knowledge about, pushing disgusting stuff about her and shoehorning it as canon and twisting it as a "headcanon". Especially given this guy Masu, and his own attempts at doing the same exact thing. Making himself seem like he isnt connected to Blun_Z's server and the rumor spreading just as you guys are parroting him.

https://imgur.com/a/7WW08vp

(Another link from the Document, you can ignore it if you like, im sure someone else with common sense will see it though.)
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Silkenseven 2024년 11월 18일 오후 7시 34분 
satyrschizo i missed you
Ryan 2024년 11월 18일 오후 7시 43분 
I'm going to Wawa anyone want anything?
Knakc 2024년 11월 18일 오후 7시 55분 
Ryan님이 먼저 게시:
I'm going to Wawa anyone want anything?
can i get a rice & beans burrito and uhh a mocha mint latte
Juihau 2024년 11월 18일 오후 8시 01분 
I mean, if nothing else, this thread has proven that this dude does in fact have a group of people following and harassing him.

...Because he loudly declares who and where he is for them to find him, every time.
Rufus MF Albarea 2024년 11월 18일 오후 8시 30분 
Ryan님이 먼저 게시:
I'm going to Wawa anyone want anything?
gimme a sour patch kids
LuxaLuxi 2024년 11월 18일 오후 8시 31분 
From what i've seen, i do feel bad for all that you've had to deal with, but why not make a new account under a new name and just not bring up Satyr or whatever genitalia she may or may not have? many people can be toxic and not mean to give genuine debates but I'm sure most people don't care to track you down if you decide not to have a major public platform or vent your plight here or Twitter or Reddit or wherever.

Like, I watch a lot of your fate episode uploads on YT and because of that I've seen a community post where you talk about these issues and frankly, why? It just brings back all of that unnecessary attention you hate, with only a bit of positive attention you like. Not much has changed since i've seen that other post and it doesn't seem like much will change here. If this really is eating at your mental health like it seems (or at least I think it would for me) why keep bringing it up? Like I said, nothing has changed, and likely nothing will change. I don't want to say you should delete your accounts and work you've put into your youtube or anything else, but if you want to be a part of the gbf community or stay online but separate from it, don't bring up the Satyr's gender/genitalia issue. There's so many beautiful things about gbf lore both primal pals related and otherwise and to get hung up on this one thing can't be fun or healthy. Even if you do see it in the future, you fully believe they're wrong and that's fine! Just keep scrolling, and I wish you the best in the future
Naeuri 2024년 11월 18일 오후 9시 40분 
To the people defending op, he's been doing this for FOUR YEARS

People aren't "intentionally attacking him", he namesearches the character, replies to anyone who doesn't agree with him 100%, and then says he's being harassed.
Ω Yukich 2024년 11월 18일 오후 10시 33분 
Accendo님이 먼저 게시:
Ω Yukich님이 먼저 게시:
Bro I just googled the topic. She really looks like T-Trash

Where's your motivation?

Bro I just reported you. You seem very motivated to harass.
You literally the only one here who is harassing and also insulting people all over the WWW because of the fiction lil bro😭😭😭
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Argwylde 2024년 11월 19일 오전 7시 37분 
I've seen some very tasteful art of Satyr with some massive veiny throbers. Especially when it's being used on her best friend Medusa. Strongly recommend. Maybe you'll change your mind one day.
Accendo 2024년 11월 19일 오전 8시 02분 
Naeuri님이 먼저 게시:
To the people defending op, he's been doing this for FOUR YEARS

People aren't "intentionally attacking him", he namesearches the character, replies to anyone who doesn't agree with him 100%, and then says he's being harassed.

..You're doing it right now, you literally raided the thread doing this, and now attempting to gaslight people into saying that isn't the case. The number of posts jumped by 50 due to the same spam I just described. The people "not agreeing" are the people of your group that you spread rumors to that make no sense. There's no such thing as "aren't intentionally attacking" someone in a situation like this because you're participating in the act of doing that for a very obvious reason and there's literally someone saying the following: https://x.com/nazuchanfan/status/1858640337872581009

You're still raiding the post even after I ignored the majority of you for hours as you bump the post like 50 times. You guys fully proved my point, yet still willing to twist the situation.

Secondly I search up the character to speak with people, and also helping people better understand the character due to people like you tricking others into thinking she's biologically different which people appreciate as it was speaking about something better and far less controversial. But you guys not only twist the action of doing that, but manipulate the search algorithm by saying a specific key word that I search up (granblue satyr or gbf satyr) so your derogatory comments purposefully fill that search with your garbage about Satyr and me to mess with me and that is practically all that's left of that search and almost nothing about the character in general as you bother everyone else as collateral damage. https://imgur.com/a/KXBncYk

Which are things in the document have directly proven through the words of many. In the first place, everything aside, it makes no sense for someone to even think that of Satyr. As she would be no different from Narmaya. They only think that of her because of your lies, poor reading comprehension, and harassment.

Hell you're even pissing off transpeople as well doing these things: https://imgur.com/a/3N1jOZr

But i'm somehow the bad guy.
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Roundmaru™ 2024년 11월 19일 오전 8시 14분 
"Primals are immutable" guy who didn't read Heart of the Sun
deepFlaw 2024년 11월 19일 오전 8시 48분 
Accendo님이 먼저 게시:
You make it seem like that isnt something that wouldnt put off actual trans people either because it has. Like you're fetishizing that label, and trans people would not like to do that in the first place. That's where all of this derives from.

Against my better judgement - because to be honest I do not think you will receive it well, though I hope you can understand I am saying this in good faith - I would like to reply to this bit specifically. Speaking as a trans woman, I think you don't fully understand what you're saying here.

When I first heard a little about this whole mess my first thought was "I don't think I like anyone involved". Because it did seem like one side was making transphobic jokes about her being a "futa", which does feel fetishizing; you are correct that I certainly don't like people doing that. But the other side (you) was pushing back against that by... focusing on how she totally doesn't have a penis and how they're insulting her by saying that, etc. etc., which frankly also read as being transphobic.

Importantly: there is a very meaningful difference between people who headcanon her as "futa" and people who headcanon her as trans. The former are just fetishizing and it's unpleasant to see. But the latter are probably trans themselves and I certainly have no issue with them seeing themselves in a character. That Bluesky artist you randomly brought this up to has they/them pronouns in their bio, for example; I am inclined to think they just like seeing her as trans, and that's fine by me (for whatever my approval even matters). That you can't see any of this nuance and think both headcanons are equally fetishizing is a big part of why you come across as transphobic.

More broadly... I do genuinely think you have been harassed by people. The people dropping in here just to make edgy jokes suck and are not helping anything. But you are also harassing other unrelated people when you suddenly drag them into this on social media and then try to make them targets in your document when they respond in ways you don't like, and if people think poorly of you as a result then you need to accept that part is a problem of your own making.

Some people have even tried to explain the issues with your behavior to you in good faith (both in this thread and previously) and you've been just as rude to them all the same. There are several points in your document where there's chat logs of people going out of their way to be nice to you and try to help you, and then you very quickly turn on them when they don't 100% agree with what you want. That you include these chat logs in the document with no self-awareness just shows that you really do not understand what you've been doing. It also really disincentivizes anyone from trying to talk in good faith with you again, because your document just serves as evidence that you do not really care about what other people feel and think as individual people, and will treat them poorly if they don't fully agree with you.

And I do not think you should need to hide from the internet or totally rebrand yourself or whatever. But please, just stop replying to everyone who posts about Satyr on social media. It is doing nothing good for you. It is only bothering people who are not involved and giving them a bad impression of you. It is not clearing up your reputation at all. It is seriously only making your reputation worse. You could so easily just be a guy who likes Satyr instead of The Guy Who Makes Him Liking Satyr Everyone's Problem. Everyone would forget about you in time if you just didn't do that.
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Accendo 2024년 11월 19일 오전 9시 00분 
deepFlaw님이 먼저 게시:
Accendo님이 먼저 게시:
You make it seem like that isnt something that wouldnt put off actual trans people either because it has. Like you're fetishizing that label, and trans people would not like to do that in the first place. That's where all of this derives from.

Against my better judgement - because to be honest I do not think you will receive it well, though I hope you can understand I am saying this in good faith - I would like to reply to this bit specifically. Speaking as a trans woman, I think you don't fully understand what you're saying here.

When I first heard a little about this whole mess my first thought was "I don't think I like anyone involved". Because it did seem like one side was making transphobic jokes about her being a "futa", which does feel fetishizing; you are correct that I certainly don't like people doing that. But the other side (you) was pushing back against that by... focusing on how she totally doesn't have a penis and how they're insulting her by saying that, etc. etc., which frankly also read as being transphobic.

Importantly: there is a very meaningful difference between people who headcanon her as "futa" and people who headcanon her as trans. The former are just fetishizing and it's unpleasant to see. But the latter are probably trans themselves and I certainly have no issue with them seeing themselves in a character. That Bluesky artist you randomly brought this up to has they/them pronouns in their bio, for example; I am inclined to think they just like seeing her as trans, and that's fine by me (for whatever my approval even matters). That you can't see any of this nuance and think both headcanons are equally fetishizing is a big part of why you come across as transphobic.

More broadly... I do genuinely think you have been harassed by people. The people dropping in here just to make edgy jokes suck and are not helping anything. But you are also harassing other unrelated people when you suddenly drag them into this on social media and then try to make them targets in your document when they respond in ways you don't like, and if people think poorly of you as a result then you need to accept that part is a problem of your own making.

Some people have even tried to explain the issues with your behavior to you in good faith (both in this thread and previously) and you've been just as rude to them all the same. There are several points in your document where there's chat logs of people going out of their way to be nice to you and try to help you, and then you very quickly turn on them when they don't 100% agree with what you want. That you include these chat logs in the document with no self-awareness just shows that you really do not understand what you've been doing. It also really disincentivizes anyone from trying to talk in good faith with you again, because your document just serves as evidence that you do not really care about what other people feel and think as individual people, and will treat them poorly if they don't fully agree with you.

And I do not think you should need to hide from the internet or totally rebrand yourself or whatever. But please, just stop replying to everyone who posts about Satyr on social media. It is doing nothing good for you. It is only bothering people who are not involved and giving them a bad impression of you. It is not clearing up your reputation at all. It is seriously only making your reputation worse. You could so easily just be a guy who likes Satyr instead of The Guy Who Makes Him Liking Satyr Everyone's Problem. Everyone would forget about you in time if you just didn't do that.

I'm going to say this once:

You're lying about those who see her as "Trans". As I said before, it makes no sense to see her that way. Regardless of everything, it doesn't make sense without being influenced by everything else around them.

There is no difference between the ones seeing her as "trans" or a "futa". Because it all derives from one thing, and that's the misinterpretation of the game, and greek mythology (which is already objectively mentioned by many to be disgusting in itself). Both sides are the same, the fetishists you claim to hate, when in reality you are pushing what others say over a man's genital. That is the origin of all of this yet it is very minor when it comes to what a Satyr is. But normally no one would never really give a damn about mythology. Secondly, in Roman Mythology, Female Satyrs existed in it but no one would really know this because of other people pushing garbage and the inability to do their own research. What's more, Cygames really threw down in Grand Blues due to the many of you people misinterpreting things that mythology has nothing to do with the characters of the game. It is irrelevant: https://imgur.com/a/xu49I8y

Stick with the already established trans characters and stop messing things up for the actual fans of the game. I see completely through you. If anyone were to ask you "where'd you get this idea from" you'd incorrectly try to explain what happened in Primal Resonance without even realizing Primals are just weapons(Cores), how they were created as pre-determined by Astrals, and Medusa was just trying to say she met Satyr 326 years ago. The thing you twist also about her Journal Entry too: How she has a power beyond comprehension as a Primal Beast.

You may as well be saying "I hate myself" or something "worse" by saying this had anything to do with sex, because that is within our comprehension and if it wasnt, we would not exist.

I really don't have any reason to entertain whatever it is you just told me, especially since I just said I don't seek advice. Its at the very 1st post. All this advice you're saying I rejected was never advice to begin with and came from those not reading the doc. Some were understandable and I did not reject, not interacting with big communities, which I am fine with and said my piece towards that given the harassment that pushed me away. Alot happens in 4 years as well, which you dont take into account.

I have not harassed anyone either, that's just another attempt at saying there was no self-defense involved when someone is doing something clearly offensive and obviously even people from other countries hate having to see people push that and eventually they're going to take full notice.
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HAVING TO RUN TO STEAM FORUMS TO CRY BECAUSE WE LAUGHED YOU OFF OF TWITTER LMFAOOOOO LOG OFF!!!!!!
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