I feel like more people should be calling out ArcSys/CyGames on how they're monetizing the game to hell

[KirbyFan45]

Considering we already lack regional pricing and if you don't buy the deluxe edition, you literally have to double the game's price to get the DLC at launch, it doesn't help that we already have confirmation of a paid BP with seemingly no other way to get the stuff in there. Plus, there is the possible risk of gacha based on what we see already. I dunno, I feel we need to talk about this more, it isn't a good look

[Tyrone Biggums]

outside of regional pricing and bad spawn rng be rest assured because none of this matters several games and if you want a FG example SF6 has battle passes and MTX out the butt

the DLC u could get it separate or buy the deluxe buying as they come out and idk where you got this gacha thing from but its not gonna happen lol

[AscendingHope]

deluxe pass is pretty insane yeah. But literally everything else is fine including the battlepass, there's nothing wrong with monetizing cosmetics. Be glad you can unlock colours and weapon skins by playing the game

[Tyrone Biggums]

i would just upgrade to deluxe tbh 25 $ vs 50 but that 50 is over the course of several months if you buy 1 at a time

[pseudo]

the pricing is definitely pure garbage
I wish people called out Capcom for SF6 as well which I feel like set the tone

[Papicho]

To be honest, Arcsys prices were good before the late Steam regional prices update, now it's just a big unreasonable mess. They had enough time to fix everything, god knows why they are not doing it. They somewhat fixed the regional prices only for Guilty Gear Strive.

I strongly urge people to voice their complaints, here below is an official way to do it :
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/feedback

[I>U]

Sorry, but what is here to be called out? It's daylight obvious that Cygames\ASW is the nowday 2K publishing.

Regional prices is just a grain of sand and part of their plan. Because they clearly want more than 50 USD they are humbly asking for.

They've "restarted" the whole game, meaning they've dropped the original with all the people supporting them on release. Oh, and all the precious Battlepass stuff you bought in GBVS didn't pass to Rising, right? New game, new seasons and truly restarted BP's.

By the way, screwing day 1 purchasers seem to be a custom to Cygames. Because if you got Char Pass, you've actually pre-purchased air and lost in value. The first DLC character is 5 USD, the 2nd one is 8$. 37 left for the rest 4. How does it compute?

And yeah, they did it to get even more people on release. Lather, rinse, launder.

Either way, I see enough of "intent" here. It's original GBVS owners, original BP purchasers and people who bought Rising's Char Pass and a stash of people outside of EU\JP\NA who is forced to F2P, but could be brought to mainline at any moment. Brilliantly played, you have to give them that.

Oh, and since I'm not planning to return to this thread, two points to white-knight guild:

1) Nobody forced Cygames to price original GBVS as low as 5 USD. They made transition package from original to Rising impossible themselves. Out of greed, yes.

2) Since original was priced this low and Rising being so good, why not to make original F2P instead? It can fairly bring more people to Rising with time. Though you already knew why not.

[Ninon Joubert]

In defense at least of the Deluxe Upgrade available, whilst the price is garbage, it's not been indicated yet as to if this is the only way to buy the Season Pass. And I'm fairly certain it won't be once the first DLC drops.
Assuming I'm right you will not be paying double for DLC as soon as said DLC actually starts to become available.

[sumolagann]

Street fighter 6 has a weekly challenge that is to buy in game currency or purchase something with in game currency. It's also an event... lol

[Tyrone Biggums]

if you already own the game and plan on getting every DLC char anyways then the smartest move is to upgrade its only 25 bucks

[ichigorukia1]

Unfortunately the fighting game community is so use to getting screwed nowadays that bad monetization/DLC practices have become the norm. $20 for character system voices (a feature that used to be a simple unlockable in other fighting games) is just insane.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Originally posted by ichigorukia1:

Unfortunately the fighting game community is so use to getting screwed nowadays that bad monetization/DLC practices have become the norm. $20 for character system voices (a feature that used to be a simple unlockable in other fighting games) is just insane.

that should have been included in the deluxe imo i want it but im not spending 20 on it

[ichigorukia1]

Originally posted by Chris Evan:

Originally posted by ichigorukia1:

Unfortunately the fighting game community is so use to getting screwed nowadays that bad monetization/DLC practices have become the norm. $20 for character system voices (a feature that used to be a simple unlockable in other fighting games) is just insane.

that should have been included in the deluxe imo i want it but im not spending 20 on it

That or should've been something you unlock if you get a character to say lvl 100.

[DBZ_KAKAROT]

Originally posted by I>U:

Sorry, but what is here to be called out? It's daylight obvious that Cygames\ASW is the nowday 2K publishing.

Regional prices is just a grain of sand and part of their plan. Because they clearly want more than 50 USD they are humbly asking for.

They've "restarted" the whole game, meaning they've dropped the original with all the people supporting them on release. Oh, and all the precious Battlepass stuff you bought in GBVS didn't pass to Rising, right? New game, new seasons and truly restarted BP's.

By the way, screwing day 1 purchasers seem to be a custom to Cygames. Because if you got Char Pass, you've actually pre-purchased air and lost in value. The first DLC character is 5 USD, the 2nd one is 8$. 37 left for the rest 4. How does it compute?

And yeah, they did it to get even more people on release. Lather, rinse, launder.

Either way, I see enough of "intent" here. It's original GBVS owners, original BP purchasers and people who bought Rising's Char Pass and a stash of people outside of EU\JP\NA who is forced to F2P, but could be brought to mainline at any moment. Brilliantly played, you have to give them that.

Oh, and since I'm not planning to return to this thread, two points to white-knight guild:

1) Nobody forced Cygames to price original GBVS as low as 5 USD. They made transition package from original to Rising impossible themselves. Out of greed, yes.

2) Since original was priced this low and Rising being so good, why not to make original F2P instead? It can fairly bring more people to Rising with time. Though you already knew why not.

Not sure why you received a jester, although I could guess why, probably it has something to do with that white-knighting you were talking about. Either way I would like to touch upon a few things.

Originally posted by I>U:

They've "restarted" the whole game, meaning they've dropped the original with all the people supporting them on release.

This irritates me to no end, and clearly I'm not the only one since this keeps getting brought up over and over again.

Originally posted by I>U:

By the way, screwing day 1 purchasers seem to be a custom to Cygames.

Yeah and they're already bleeding for it, sales have slowed down to a halt and more than half of the playerbase have already abandoned the game.

Originally posted by I>U:

Either way, I see enough of "intent" here.

I think anyone sees the intent, the issue is whether people will consume it or not. Not everyone has been scammed the same, and they don't learn from the mistakes of others, they just have to experience it for themselves.

Originally posted by I>U:

1) Nobody forced Cygames to price original GBVS as low as 5 USD. They made transition package from original to Rising impossible themselves. Out of greed, yes.

Yeah but it doesn't have to stay this way. Whether they acknowledge it or not, there are people like myself that will never buy Rising unless they offer some kind of upgrade path, whether that's in the form of a discount or updating the original, that's for them to figure out, but they're leaving money on the table by ignoring us.

Originally posted by I>U:

2) Since original was priced this low and Rising being so good, why not to make original F2P instead? It can fairly bring more people to Rising with time. Though you already knew why not.

Making the original free will do nothing for Rising. They need to make the base game for Rising free if they're charging $50 for the first season pass. it's insane the Season pass costs as much as the game itself, and since most people already own GBVS, it's only logical to make the base game free, or at least make GBVS upgradable to base Rising, if they're going to charge these ludicrous prices and "reset" like you stated.

[Ninon Joubert]

Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:

Making the original free will do nothing for Rising. They need to make the base game for Rising free if they're charging $50 for the first season pass. it's insane the Season pass costs as much as the game itself, and since most people already own GBVS, it's only logical to make the base game free, or at least make GBVS upgradable to base Rising, if they're going to charge these ludicrous prices and "reset" like you stated.

Hate to point this out again but it's the Deluxe upgrade that costs the same as the base game. We still have no indication that there won't be a normal character pass when the first DLC releases.

Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:

Yeah and they're already bleeding for it, sales have slowed down to a halt and more than half of the playerbase have already abandoned the game.

Originally posted by I>U:

Either way, I see enough of "intent" here.

I think anyone sees the intent, the issue is whether people will consume it or not. Not everyone has been scammed the same, and they don't learn from the mistakes of others, they just have to experience it for themselves.

Originally posted by I>U:

1) Nobody forced Cygames to price original GBVS as low as 5 USD. They made transition package from original to Rising impossible themselves. Out of greed, yes.

Yeah but it doesn't have to stay this way. Whether they acknowledge it or not, there are people like myself that will never buy Rising unless they offer some kind of upgrade path, whether that's in the form of a discount or updating the original, that's for them to figure out, but they're leaving money on the table by ignoring us.

Sales... do tend to slow down after a game releases and player numbers do tend to fall fairly quickly. This isn't abnormal of a game release.
There shouldn't be an upgrade path. This is a different game, and it's very obvious how much effort has been made in making the leap to it. If you are unwilling to buy it then just... don't? You complaining in the forums isn't going to change it and it's hard to believe it's venting at this point because you've been on this crusade for so long everyone's gone to sleep listening to you drone on about it.

The OP post is reasonable, battle passes and other microtransactions shouldn't really find their way into full price games. The voice pack being so expensive is silly. The regional pricing is a mess. Nothing you're saying even has anything to do with this. Your freebies for barely playing the last game aren't coming, please stop.

[DBZ_KAKAROT]

Funny you're complaining about my complaints. I wasn't talking to you, so you can feel free to ignore my post. My points still stand for people that don't see it your way.

OP clearly you see what's going on right? Everything you're reading here is fake propaganda, and I mean EVERYTHING. You have shills here propping up the game, criticism being censored, fake sales and reviews, most of it is misinformation, and when they lose the narrative, they resort to name calling and insults. Probably about 10% of it is real or legit, don't believe a word from these frauds. They can try to censor the truth all they want, that's just a minor setback, smart people can see through their lies and manipulation.