nerf nier?

[ice]

i dont play this character an didn't find that hard to deal with but apparently everyone saying nier is busted? i dont want to spend some time on the character if they'll nerf

[Infevo]

Originally posted by MakiMaki:

Originally posted by Infevo:

She just does not run out of Death ever. If they reduced her initial stacks to 10, it would immediately make everything more bareable because right now you have to sit there and wait for a million years before she has to become more mindful of her main resource.

Never runs out of death ever ... i wish that was true. :') It might be the case against players who - as silly as it sounds - die too quickly, but at a higher level of play, against opponents who know how to deal with Nier (which, as has been established in this thread, is quite manageable once you get past the knowledge checks), you run out of your resource very quickly if you just keep chaining your specials.

Originally posted by CRISTALESCUITE:

Aside from that Nier is certanly strong but I don't think she's the strongest in the game, maybe she's just the easiest of the strongests.

That's probably the best assessment of Nier I've encountered so far - although Seox is a veeery close second.^^

Imho, you cannot design a game for the 98th percentile of players and say it is well balanced. The characters have to be balanced around a majority of players and the reality is that we all die too quickly and there is nothing wrong with dying quickly. I'd rather say it is a problem, when you have to sit there for 50 seconds before you can try something.

It also just is horrific design - Diaphone has demonstrated perfectly - that making your opponent block is a win condition off which she can brute-force herself to victory with a suboptimal combo. And I want to remind you, she does not need half her stacks for that most of the time. In fact, she can play without using any, she also gets tons of damage from SBAs which do not consume stacks and she can make great use from ultimates on top of that.

I have seen plenty of S++ and Master rank play and rarely ever is her running out of Death an occurrence.

[Elley]

A real one plays their favorite character despite nerfs.

[Kiyaya]

If you think you'll drop her if they nerfed her, then you don't like her as much as you think you do.

[toasted]

she is so broken I am always confused to see someone at low ranks with her like how are they not winning

[Infevo]

https://youtu.be/2NZwPDZMMRo

[Sigma993]

I'd say just pick her up, she's pretty fun. I highly doubt they are going to nerf her!
People for the most part have no idea how to play against her and instead of learning the matchup, they rather b*** about the character.
The fact they talk about nerfing Nier while completely ignoring the fact that characters like Zeta are beyond broken is just mind boggling to me!

[pseudo]

Originally posted by Sigma993:

while completely ignoring the fact that characters like Zeta are beyond broken is just mind boggling to me!

Just learn the matchup bro.

[Bigamo]

Originally posted by Infevo:

https://youtu.be/2NZwPDZMMRo

He put Sigfried over the top in the list cause he never played that crap. It is being fun watching people quiting Siegfried in real time in twich.

[Bigamo]

Originally posted by pseudo:

Originally posted by Sigma993:

while completely ignoring the fact that characters like Zeta are beyond broken is just mind boggling to me!

Just learn the matchup bro.

Balance is crap.

[Infevo]

Originally posted by Sigma993:

I'd say just pick her up, she's pretty fun. I highly doubt they are going to nerf her!
People for the most part have no idea how to play against her and instead of learning the matchup, they rather b*** about the character.
The fact they talk about nerfing Nier while completely ignoring the fact that characters like Zeta are beyond broken is just mind boggling to me!

Pretty sure there is a reason for why Nier is so overrepresented in master rank. And it could have something to do with the fact that she can reserval into 50% of your lifebar. With a reversal that is harder to deal with than others because it is a parry that can be extended, beats jab meaties and safejumps.

Originally posted by Bigamo:

Originally posted by Infevo:

https://youtu.be/2NZwPDZMMRo

He put Sigfried over the top in the list cause he never played that crap. It is being fun watching people quiting Siegfried in real time in twich.

He mainly played Siegfried for a time. And you are a sorry noone talking out of your butt and crying about anything and everything in each game's Steam forums.

[Sigma993]

Originally posted by Infevo:

Originally posted by Sigma993:

I'd say just pick her up, she's pretty fun. I highly doubt they are going to nerf her!
People for the most part have no idea how to play against her and instead of learning the matchup, they rather b*** about the character.
The fact they talk about nerfing Nier while completely ignoring the fact that characters like Zeta are beyond broken is just mind boggling to me!

Pretty sure there is a reason for why Nier is so overrepresented in master rank. And it could have something to do with the fact that she can reserval into 50% of your lifebar. With a reversal that is harder to deal with than others because it is a parry that can be extended, beats jab meaties and safejumps.

Originally posted by Bigamo:

He put Sigfried over the top in the list cause he never played that crap. It is being fun watching people quiting Siegfried in real time in twich.

He mainly played Siegfried for a time. And you are a sorry noone talking out of your butt and crying about anything and everything in each game's Steam forums.

I mean she is definitely very strong, won't argue with anyone about that but there are other characters that are totally underrated just because everyone's too busy whining about Nier. I'm 100% positive, in a few weeks these current tier lists will be something to laught at!

[Sigma993]

Originally posted by pseudo:

Originally posted by Sigma993:

while completely ignoring the fact that characters like Zeta are beyond broken is just mind boggling to me!

Just learn the matchup bro.

A friend of mine is currently one of the top ranked Zeta players and he's doing similar stuff as this guy.
Good luck learning the matchup lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3rV8zdKiYw

[Infevo]

Originally posted by Sigma993:

I mean she is definitely very strong, won't argue with anyone about that but there are other characters that are totally underrated just because everyone's too busy whining about Nier. I'm 100% positive, in a few weeks these current tier lists will be something to laught at!

I thought she was strong, then I thought she was overpowered. Now I am convinced she is broken. And I still prefer facing Nier instead of Seox, Zeta or Lancelot. Because these three are just disgusting and do not play Granblue at all while Nier is actually very basic. You have to respect her reversal much more than that of other characters and at the same time she excels at pressure and setplay. And she gets setplay off making you block and does not even need a setup.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Originally posted by ice:

i dont play this character an didn't find that hard to deal with but apparently everyone saying nier is busted? i dont want to spend some time on the character if they'll nerf

you never fought a good nier or your in like B-A rank or something

[Kiyaya]

Originally posted by Sigma993:

Originally posted by Infevo:

Pretty sure there is a reason for why Nier is so overrepresented in master rank. And it could have something to do with the fact that she can reserval into 50% of your lifebar. With a reversal that is harder to deal with than others because it is a parry that can be extended, beats jab meaties and safejumps.



He mainly played Siegfried for a time. And you are a sorry noone talking out of your butt and crying about anything and everything in each game's Steam forums.

I mean she is definitely very strong, won't argue with anyone about that but there are other characters that are totally underrated just because everyone's too busy whining about Nier. I'm 100% positive, in a few weeks these current tier lists will be something to laught at!

As a Grimnir player, I bet money that Grimnir will end up topping tier lists within 2 months. Mark my words.