Zeno Clash 2

Zeno Clash 2

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Mehbah May 1, 2013 @ 7:33am
The ending (spoilers).
Just finished the game. The ending feels like a plothole, though. The two golems get crushed, and Kax-Teh or however you spell his name was still linked to Ghat moments before. Yet Ghat didn't react to it. The south golem didn't have any reason to break the link as far as I can tell, or really any chance to do it either.

Is it a plothole or am I missing something?
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Honzas4400 May 1, 2013 @ 7:38am 
That cut-scene we can see after both golems get crushed, it may be some kind of flashback. A memory FatherMother was telling about in very beginning of the game, when you get with him / her in Family Plaza.

Or the golem could break the link, yes. Because his test was to fight Kax-Teh, and he did - kinda.
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Mehbah May 1, 2013 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by Honzas4400:
That cut-scene we can see after both golems get crushed, it may be some kind of flashback. A memory FatherMother was telling about in very beginning of the game, when you get with him / her in Family Plaza.

Or the golem could break the link, yes. Because his test was to fight Kax-Teh, and he did - kinda.

It shouldn't be a flashback since Fathermother had lost his clothes and had the lost eye from the first game. And mainly since Ghat visits Deadra and Henae at the coast.

I suppose the south golem could have broken the link, but there wasn't really any reason for him to do so, not to mention that he did some flashy hand waving the other time we saw him break the link. Even if he considered Ghat to have passed the test, he seemed more concerned with his own life than breaking the link.
Honzas4400 May 1, 2013 @ 8:04am 
Maybe Kax-Teh survived SOMEHOW. I don't know... Teleport? Maybe someone from ACE helps us :)
[ACE] cbordeu  [developer] May 1, 2013 @ 8:19am 
Remember that in that fight you are constantly causing Xotl-Teh to break his link with Golem by linking both Golems together with you. So Xotl-Teh is forced to manually have to re-establish the link every few moments. There are two possible answers to this - any one of them being a valid one:

1) Ghat makes Xotl-Teh break the link and when he is defeated he never re-links Golem to Ghat in the end. It is not his immediate concern to link Ghat at the end since Kax-Teh has caught him in this deadly situation.

2) Xotl-Teh could have broken the link in the end if he wanted. He is obviously a bit of a sadist, but this doesn't necessarily mean he is a killer. It's very unlikely - given his personality - that he would be concerned about killing Ghat with Kax-Teh in this life threatening moment.

The scene of Father-Mother isn't a flashback. Both Ghat and Rimat are returning from High City right after this battle.
Morthy May 1, 2013 @ 9:36am 
Couldn't Kax-Teh just cut the link between them.

Kax-Teh has no reason to keep Ghat linked to him, since he wants the outside world to bring new golems.

Btw: I never did the link both golems to me thing, I was always linked to Kax-Teh.
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Stormkasi May 1, 2013 @ 9:38am 
I thought what cbordeu said was pretty obvious. You had to break the link during the fight. >_>
Mehbah May 1, 2013 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by ACE cbordeu:
Remember that in that fight you are constantly causing Xotl-Teh to break his link with Golem by linking both Golems together with you. So Xotl-Teh is forced to manually have to re-establish the link every few moments.

I didn't, actually. I just linked Xotl-Teh with the minions and damaged him that way. That he would break the link if you linked him with Kax-Teh didn't really occur to me, but it makes sense.

Morthy, I don't think Kax-Teh can break the link since he didn't do it during the fight. It seemed like Xotl-Teh's command overrode his. In the fight against Kax-Teh, he was surprised that the link was down but didn't reestablish it.

Stormking, you don't have to break the link during the fight. I managed to finish it without doing it.
Stormkasi May 1, 2013 @ 10:19am 
Huh. That's odd.

What'd you use to damage him before minions spawn? Just bombs/specials/guns?
Mehbah May 1, 2013 @ 10:21am 
Punched him, basically.
Stormkasi May 1, 2013 @ 10:21am 
Normal punches shouldn't damage him though.
Stormkasi May 1, 2013 @ 10:28am 
Also: I get that you don't NEED to link them to complete the fight, it just seems odd that you didn't even think to try it.
Mehbah May 1, 2013 @ 10:33am 
It didn't occur to me that he (apparently) breaks the link if you link the two golems. I thought that would just lead to me getting hurt as well when I attacked him.

I managed to hurt him through some combinations of normal attacks, strong attacks and special attacks. Maybe I just punched him so hard I broke the game's coding.
Stormkasi May 1, 2013 @ 10:37am 
Haha, well yeah specials damage him that's why I asked earlier. XD

My first instinct when reaching the final boss wasn't "How will I damage him?" but "If I link him to Kaxteh, he can't hurt me without hurting himself" and then was pleasantly surprised to find Xotl-teh didn't want any part of that. :P
Animasta May 1, 2013 @ 10:44am 
I linked the two a few times, but mostly I just did the charging elbow move (and used the sun moon glove to destroy the two... head... things?)
Honzas4400 May 1, 2013 @ 10:46am 
You can also use Kax-Teh's hammer, when he is a bit beaten. It's kinda strong against Xotl-Teh.
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