Demo feedback

[chairman_mentos]

-nice graphics
-music is calm
-no stress
-fun to build
-agree with other posters, more zoom in is necessary
-would like to click on villagers
-hard to figure out what im doing right or wrong
-not very difficult
-overall interesting but tough to say what the vision of the game is, I just build and thats it .. i know, simcity was the same, but.... it also came out in 1988 or soemthing

can't judge accurately but at the moment 8/10 I had fun

[Lucky_Star_Fan]

Desperately needs a speed control.

[Theogore]

-nice graphics
-music is calm
-no stress
-fun to build
-would like to click on villagers
-I just build and thats it
-hard to figure out what im doing right or wrong

These are elements from the game that it was inspired by: The Settlers IV.

You can pick it up on GoG if you want to give it a try, it's still a great game and that's where recent version of The Settlers franchise have faltered. Pioneers of Pagonia feels like a spiritual successor so I wouldn't expect these to change.

[Vazzee]

Awesome Title for the topic!

Dear Devs,

Great game, feels like a mix of Settlers 4 and Cultures. I love how grounded the game feels, since you've made the items physical, and from then on you've had to make everything to scale to fit. We have to make the things that make sense to have to make for the professions.
That you increased the Worker/Building number to 3, so the process can be more realistically presented, and not 1 poor bugger has to do everything by himself.
Awesome eye-candy!

I would add the following mentioned above:

- Please make the combat Settlers 4 like!
- I'm old school, please bring back the Archers
- If possible, I would welcome a Carried Goods Priority list, so the Carriers can focus on the stuff I need. Right now, it is not an issue, but when combat is available, you need to juggle goods around.
- Wondering what the treasures will be good for...
- Someone mentioned to bring back the Donkey Carts... Donkey Farm + Cart Maker / Could carry 4 or 8 units of things /
- Wondering what the future of the rations gonna be...
- Looking forward to feed my Miners!
- Others were mentioning upgraded roads for a bit of speed increase +5% or so
- The ability to zoom out further would be great!!! There are so many buildings to build, which is fantastic, that it would be super to be able to take a look at the sprawling city from a birds eye view! But, please, in this case, do not mess with the visual quality and rendering distance... I've played other demo's too, and many screws up the zoom with dropping too much detail in turn for a greater zoom out
- On a similar note, a lower camera angle would be awesome too, again, so I can admire my little city even more!!! Like what you can do in Becastled or in Fabledom
- A tool tip for the goods, so we know who makes it and maybe, clicking on that tool tip instantly allows you to place the relevant building...
- Maybe allowing us to set up the ratio for the Building Camps
- Fishing: Can we fish from the beach and from the sea too which would mean we have build fishing boats? Would be cool!
- Food/Rations: Elite units would need Rations/Food to be able to leave our territory? This might could help balancing out the rush tactics...
- Decorations? These might have been mentioned on the End of the Demo card...
- Many times I screw up with the roads, I think the road will fit through, but it won't...
- That's it for now.;))
Thanks again for your work, this game is a dream come true!

I would not care much about most of the things mentioned above if you make the combat Settlers 4 style, I can zoom out further without any loss in detail so the game stays pretty, I can have a low angle camera view.;))

Thanks, and I am looking forward to the Early Access!

[chairman_mentos]

never could get into the settlers genre ... I think i prefer builders that are more mission driven.. my favorites were pharaoh/zeus/caesar etc series ... well ,currently enjoying the storm game, whatever its called..

[puipui]

Suggestion : Delete tree when place building. Map too large..

[youarebymyside]

No tutorial whatsoever. No idea how to play it, therefore I can't play it? Does it even have a plot or a goal or?
Map is too big & I can't zoom out enough to feel comfortable.

[Vazzee]

Originally posted by puipui:

Suggestion : Delete tree when place building. Map too large..

It's a Settlers thing, the game is a bit more grounded that many titles. You have to deforest the area with Woodcutters.
This is in the game for about 30 years. Since the OG Settlers came out.

If you click on the Woodcutter Hut, there are two modes for it to work: Deforestation or Cut fully grown trees only.

Settlers maps can be massive that takes long hours to complete with thousands of peeps and soldiers marching across the land. Settlers 4 is almost 20 years old, and was able to handle that many units.

You will be able to set the map size to your liking at some point. Take a glance at End of Demo card Road Map.

[Vazzee]

Originally posted by chairman_mentos:

never could get into the settlers genre ... I think i prefer builders that are more mission driven.. my favorites were pharaoh/zeus/caesar etc series ... well ,currently enjoying the storm game, whatever its called..

The Settlers 4 has a cute campaign! Maybe take a looksie at that one? The latest version on Ubisoft's website runs well even in 4k with awesome zoom and fast forward possibilities.

[Vazzee]

Originally posted by youarebymyside:

No tutorial whatsoever. No idea how to play it, therefore I can't play it? Does it even have a plot or a goal or?
Map is too big & I can't zoom out enough to feel comfortable.

Follow the missions on the side, place given buildings, explore UI, and observe what happens with the placed buildings, then you'll get a sense of what's going on here.

The quick summary of the Settlers /1-4/ type games:
The goods are physically present, units/walkers are physically present, they don't magically disappear. This requires space that breeds a sense of realistic scale. One of the reasons maps are never that small in these games.

You have to build up a production chain to be able to produce the tools that needed to employ workers for most professions. Farmers need Shovel and Sickle, Stone mason needs Chisel and Hammer etc...

In this game for now Food is required to get more Carriers who becomes a trades person when required and the right tools are available, and Food needed to send out an Explorer.

Later on you will have to feed your miners, animals. In the Settlers 1-4, Bread to Coal miners, Meat to Iron ore miners, Fish went to Gold Miners. These were needed for their optimal production, but could accept other foods as well for lesser productivity.

This is a Sand Box demo, there will be probably a campaign too, but for most people it was about fighting each other or vs AI on various maps.

This is not Starcraft or Caesar etc.

Enjoy exploring this cool game that many people were waiting for over a decade!;))

[Morbeous]

Originally posted by Lucky_Star_Fan:

Desperately needs a speed control.

Please don't add a speed control

[Morbeous]

Originally posted by youarebymyside:

No tutorial whatsoever. No idea how to play it, therefore I can't play it? Does it even have a plot or a goal or?
Map is too big & I can't zoom out enough to feel comfortable.

Doesn't really need a tutorial. Game is pretty easy to follow especially as their are missions to pint you in the right direction.

[DrSupermanShadow]

Next fest this year was extremely disappointing.

More the half the Demonstration of Games I played Didn't Match a Single trailer.
And i was look forward to The fact Steam is allowing more games targeted at adult audiences. ranging from dirty to absolute gore fest to tame builders with adult audiences in mind...example an adult like version of sims.... Like games with Xrated content that usally doesnt make it into m Game genres....

A demonstration game after 30+ odd years of game development:
it should be known by now even by new game creators.

That the Demo game should always.
1. Match's the trailer or is a playable version of the 1st generation trailer.
2. IS always A Early 1st generation Completed version of core game play.
3. Is A Complete tutorial to attract players to make em want to see the rest of the game.
4. Is a completed set of 1st generation levels(early game, Mid game, and end game) matching the genre of the game.

I was extremely disappointing when i clicked this demo and saw the trailer the first time>
I literally thought you could control every aspect of the building and instruct the NPCs to do stuff... and click to fill a build meter. and got a flyover camera option to quickly navigate as the all-seeing, all-knowing mayor/builder....

I Didn't expect another AFK City Game...
Let the City Tycoon style of game already.
many game genres do not need another revival, there is already 50+ versions of afk city place and let it run games...
they went out of style 20 years ago....
immersive with a afk optional setting that the way to be now.

Do I like having minions to lower the grind yes,
do i want to sit and wait 30 minutes.... for them to do all the work. nope

give me a main Character to play so i can drop a to a rock.. help builda , cook, or go running across the map.... puck up supplies and drag em to their place.
or send builds to a specific building and do the selected task....

[puipui]

any gold material?

[Vazzee]

Originally posted by Morbeous:

Originally posted by Lucky_Star_Fan:

Desperately needs a speed control.

Please don't add a speed control

You don't have to use it, but many people need it, like myself, who has a job, and want to make progress.

[Vazzee]

Originally posted by DrSupermanShadow:

Next fest this year was extremely disappointing.

More the half the Demonstration of Games I played Didn't Match a Single trailer.
And i was look forward to The fact Steam is allowing more games targeted at adult audiences. ranging from dirty to absolute gore fest to tame builders with adult audiences in mind...example an adult like version of sims.... Like games with Xrated content that usally doesnt make it into m Game genres....

A demonstration game after 30+ odd years of game development:
it should be known by now even by new game creators.

That the Demo game should always.
1. Match's the trailer or is a playable version of the 1st generation trailer.
2. IS always A Early 1st generation Completed version of core game play.
3. Is A Complete tutorial to attract players to make em want to see the rest of the game.
4. Is a completed set of 1st generation levels(early game, Mid game, and end game) matching the genre of the game.:stChest::stKey:

I was extremely disappointing when i clicked this demo and saw the trailer the first time>
I literally thought you could control every aspect of the building and instruct the NPCs to do stuff... and click to fill a build meter. and got a flyover camera option to quickly navigate as the all-seeing, all-knowing mayor/builder....

I Didn't expect another AFK City Game...
Let the City Tycoon style of game :UncleDeath: already.
many game genres do not need another revival, there is already 50+ versions of afk city place and let it run games...
they went out of style 20 years ago....
immersive with a afk optional setting that the way to be now.

Do I like having minions to lower the grind yes,
do i want to sit and wait 30 minutes.... for them to do all the work. nope

give me a main Character to play so i can drop a:pickax: to a rock.. help builda :wishingwell:, cook:w_cheese::w_apple:, or go running across the map.... puck up supplies and drag em to their place.
or send builds to a specific building and do the selected task....

This is the real successor to the Settlers games. I have no idea how you could expect from the trailer anything else but Settlers game play...