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[R] Dec 19, 2023 @ 2:22pm
Question about map generation and MAP ID seed
Hi,

So i was wondering how exactly the map generation works?

Because when you customize the map settings, you will get a map ID seed specifically for those settings which then create a specific map.

But this means you will always play the same map if you choose the same settings right?

Does this mean there never will be random created maps if you choose specific settings?

And if the above is true, does this also mean that all 'random' generated maps are in fact just presets based on the settings it 'automatically' chooses?


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Last edited by [R]; Dec 20, 2023 @ 2:23pm
Originally posted by Mascha (EE):
Hi! The Map ID/Seed is randomized each time you enter the map generation interface.
So if you switch between 2 settings while in the UI, you will also switch between 2 Map IDs (which might look like there are only presets). The moment you leave the map generation menu and return, these same settings will have a new Map ID and therefore a new map.
(Re-)using the same Map ID will however always generate the same map.

Hope that helps!
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Faedrill Dec 19, 2023 @ 2:34pm 
No you always get a different map even if all settings are the same.
Just try it yourself create two maps with the same settings.
[R] Dec 19, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by Faedrill:
No you always get a different map even if all settings are the same.
Just try it yourself create two maps with the same settings.

I have tried that, but it gave me the exact same map(?)
Same settings in the 'customize' section, which gave the same ID seed and thus same map.
Last edited by [R]; Dec 19, 2023 @ 2:42pm
Faedrill Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:49am 
Originally posted by R:
Originally posted by Faedrill:
No you always get a different map even if all settings are the same.
Just try it yourself create two maps with the same settings.

I have tried that, but it gave me the exact same map(?)
Same settings in the 'customize' section, which gave the same ID seed and thus same map.

Are you sure?
I get a new map/seed every time i start a new game and choose the same settings.
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Mascha (EE)  [developer] Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:53am 
Hi! The Map ID/Seed is randomized each time you enter the map generation interface.
So if you switch between 2 settings while in the UI, you will also switch between 2 Map IDs (which might look like there are only presets). The moment you leave the map generation menu and return, these same settings will have a new Map ID and therefore a new map.
(Re-)using the same Map ID will however always generate the same map.

Hope that helps!
[R] Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Mascha (EE):
Hi! The Map ID/Seed is randomized each time you enter the map generation interface.
So if you switch between 2 settings while in the UI, you will also switch between 2 Map IDs (which might look like there are only presets). The moment you leave the map generation menu and return, these same settings will have a new Map ID and therefore a new map.
(Re-)using the same Map ID will however always generate the same map.

Hope that helps!

Hi! Thanks for explaining. I'm gonna test this as soon as possible :D
dampf.l Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by Mascha (EE):
Hi! The Map ID/Seed is randomized each time you enter the map generation interface.
So if you switch between 2 settings while in the UI, you will also switch between 2 Map IDs (which might look like there are only presets). The moment you leave the map generation menu and return, these same settings will have a new Map ID and therefore a new map.
(Re-)using the same Map ID will however always generate the same map.

Hope that helps!
That helps, but it would be helpful, if you could "roll the dice" directly in the menu (include a button), without having to leave and return to the menu.
[R] Dec 20, 2023 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by Faedrill:
Originally posted by R:

I have tried that, but it gave me the exact same map(?)
Same settings in the 'customize' section, which gave the same ID seed and thus same map.

Are you sure?
I get a new map/seed every time i start a new game and choose the same settings.

Getting new map ID's now too luckely :D

Guess i did something wrong before.


Originally posted by Mascha (EE):
Hi! The Map ID/Seed is randomized each time you enter the map generation interface.
So if you switch between 2 settings while in the UI, you will also switch between 2 Map IDs (which might look like there are only presets). The moment you leave the map generation menu and return, these same settings will have a new Map ID and therefore a new map.
(Re-)using the same Map ID will however always generate the same map.

Hope that helps!

I tested it and it indeed works. Getting newly created maps now, even with the same specific settings.

Thanks again!
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