Compare to "The Settlers"?

[White Lion]

I was hoping that the latest "The Settlers" game would be available in Steam, since it was launched. But for unknown reason, they don't want to sell it in Steam. It was a huge disappointment for me.

But then, I saw an article about this game. Looks promising and very potential to completely replace "The Settlers" in Steam. So when will this game be fully released? How will it be better than the latest "The Settlers" game on full release?

[rubber duck]

I also think The Settlers 2: 10th Anniversary is the better game compared to PoP. As I wanted to support EE, I bought PoP - but I don't like the combat system.
And, after Settlers - New Allies was on offer here (20,09€) I bought it to form my own judgement. In my opinion, it's not so bad as many critics on the WWW. I think it's better than PoP - but PoP is also early access

[fredreed2000]

the only thing with the settlers New Allies is this is there a map editor for It? If were to compare this to the settlers new allies I would say that the Pioneers is In Early Access still and probably will be for at least a year. The settlers new allies has been out for quite a while now so It doesn't have those bugs like the pioneers has. Plus the pioneers doesn't have much In terms of features either yet.

[dampf.l]

"Settlers - New Allies" is a city builder PvE / PvP Game, so quite different from PoP. If you are looking for a faster game - including PvE / PvP - it makes sense to buy it instead of PoP. Why not?

The issues of "Settlers - New Allies" was generally spoken simple design flaws in production chains (forestry, soil, no usage of water), a military system that works, but isn't outstanding in any kind and a AI (PvE) which seems simply scripted. Additionally a high price and ingame shop, plus, last but not least: server issues

For some reason they are still updating the game and have even updated forestry, so, yes, for 20 €, why not?

By the way, if someone says that PoP is boring, this personal opinion is of course valid. This kind of game lives from optimizitation, efficient building and some micromanagement! It´s not a RTS game to build up an army and destroy another factions buildings. (of course a "Settlers - New Allies" game looks way more interesting, when you burn down a complete village and have your archers shooting arrows )

[Wipfmetz]

Originally posted by dampf.l:

Settlers 7 was OK in its own way and the History Collection is not perfect, but at least playable out of the box.

I was recently surprised that Settlers 7 is already included in an "History Collection".
Then I remembered that it was released 13 ½ years ago.
Then i felt old.

This is my contribution regarding Settlers 7 and History Collections.

[alexa]

Originally posted by Xtreme:

I was hoping that the latest "The Settlers" game would be available in Steam, since it was launched. But for unknown reason, they don't want to sell it in Steam. It was a huge disappointment for me.

But then, I saw an article about this game. Looks promising and very potential to completely replace "The Settlers" in Steam. So when will this game be fully released? How will it be better than the latest "The Settlers" game on full release?

from what ive seem the latest settlers game is way superior to this in its current form. id only pick this one up on a sale.

[White Lion]

Originally posted by Wipfmetz:

Originally posted by dampf.l:

Settlers 7 was OK in its own way and the History Collection is not perfect, but at least playable out of the box.

I was recently surprised that Settlers 7 is already included in an "History Collection".
Then I remembered that it was released 13 ½ years ago.
Then i felt old.

This is my contribution regarding Settlers 7 and History Collections.

Dude, if you're still below 40, then you're not old enough yet. LOL.

I still remember how happy I was when I played Settlers 3. It's so memorable, that I wished there's an improved version of it. Unfortunately, the editions after that were no longer attractive or captivating at all.

Then when New Allies came, I immediately thought that it is the 3D version of Settlers 3 with improved mechanics and visuals. Sadly, it's not available in Steam. So I'll keep on searching and hoping that someday someone made a "replacement" for that in Steam.

I was hoping PoP is the one. But got disappointed when other people say it's still below New Allies. So I guess I'll have to wait another 1-2 years, before actually buying it.

[SlasH]

Originally posted by Xtreme:

Dude, if you're still below 40, then you're not old enough yet. LOL.

I remember playing the demo version of Settlers 1 with my friend, before the full version came out. You could do everything, but the playtime was limited to 1 hour. We started over and over and over again, just to see what was possible within the one hour limit, trying to squeeze it just a little bit more. Those were the days...

[dampf.l]

Originally posted by Xtreme:

...
Then when New Allies came, I immediately thought that it is the 3D version of Settlers 3 with improved mechanics and visuals.
....
I was hoping PoP is the one. But got disappointed when other people say it's still below New Allies. So I guess I'll have to wait another 1-2 years, before actually buying it.

Unfortunately for Settler 3 players PoP is not going in that direction.

And regarding "Settlers - New Allies" it's also completely different.

- City Building with focus on RTS, commanding troops directly
- City Building with some "indirect" troops commanding but still strategic thinking (don't feed the werewolf and have rangers against thieves)

It's like sports car and offroad vehicle. Some people would now say:

We need a S(ports) U(tility) V(ehicle)! Perfect for everybody!