Small question about ship comparison

[HellSlayer]

Okay So I have been looking to upgrade my pirate ship and was wondering how important is armor and % of damage resistance.

Lets say:
ship 1 has 0armor but has protection from E:100% S:100% M:100%

vs

ship 2 has 2armor but has E:120% S:120% M:120%

Would 2armor bonus is better than 20 % increased damage taken?
When it is better? Does the ship needs to have 5armor to offset 20% damage increase?

ship 3 has 0armor but has protection from E:90% S:90% M:90%

vs

ship 4 has 6armor but has E:140% S:140% M:140%

When armor is better than % dmg increased?

[FDru]

2 armor reduces 2 damage taken. Anything over 10 damage and you're better off with the 100% resistance (or lower). Armor is a great early game stat because incoming damage is low, later you'll want some good resists to go along with it.

[HellSlayer]

Opprinnelig skrevet av FDru:

2 armor reduces 2 damage taken. Anything over 10 damage and you're better off with the 100% resistance (or lower). Armor is a great early game stat because incoming damage is low, later you'll want some good resists to go along with it.

So 90% damage received instead of 100% is a lot better than 6 or 8armor?

Also, does pilots charisma increase the experience points I get or just money?

[Ripfin]

the game manual is located in your install dir, it is very informative has ship list and all, it also has been updated with the hd reboot

[Rage Herald]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Chillrend:

Opprinnelig skrevet av FDru:

2 armor reduces 2 damage taken. Anything over 10 damage and you're better off with the 100% resistance (or lower). Armor is a great early game stat because incoming damage is low, later you'll want some good resists to go along with it.

So 90% damage received instead of 100% is a lot better than 6 or 8armor?

Also, does pilots charisma increase the experience points I get or just money?

Formula:
(Damage - shell - armor) * the coefficient of the ship * attacking artifacts * defensive artifacts = final damage.

Since all artifacts and TTX ship go as coefficients their order is not important.

Calculations for the indicated ships all 50 damage units and 35% of the shield:
1) (50 * 0.65) = 32.5 = 32 (bank rounding)
2) (50 * 0.65 - 2) * 1.2 = 36.6 = 37
3) (50 * 0.65) * 0.9 = 29.25 = 29
4) (50 * 0.65 - 6) * 1.4 = 39.9 = 40

But with 10 damage:
1) (10 * 0.65) = 6.5 = 6
2) (10 * 0.65 - 2) * 1.2 = 5.4 = 5

The result: the higher one-time damage, the less effective the armor and the more efficient the coefficient.

[tolkafox]

To reiterate a bit more simply; in the beginning when your average weapon damage is 20-30, 10 armor points would be half that damage or equivalent to E/S/M 50%. Late game when the average weapon damage is 60 you'll need an armor value of 30 which is difficult, so you'll want to go with the ship with the lower %.

I believe charisma only increases the money you get from missions, but I never pay attention to the exp I get so I could be wrong.

[HellSlayer]

Thanks for replies.. I did played a lot of sr2 yesterday so I figured it out. Yes charisma doesnt increase xp gains :(
But I do admit going for lower % is definately a safer option. Found 80% 85%105% +2armor 932 ship.

Also I found somewhere than ships above 1000hull makes you a lot slower. I wonder if its true..

[Fulcrum52]

I once found a experimeter series Dumbo ship that had 30% susceptibility to everything, too bad it only had 200 hull.

[tolkafox]

I have another question about artifacts, I'm building an energy weapons ship and I was wondering how the proportionar works. My shield generator has 36% with polarizer, so would that increase energy weapons by +18 or +18%? And from your experience, how effective is the rocketang? I'm mostly tried it on small fighters with M:50% and 30% shield and got nothing but 1's for missiles, but I haven't tested it against torpedo's yet.

My ship has A'egis, polarizer, and junior droid and it's between the proportionar for damage or the rocketang for missile tanking. I also have a proton/nozzlenator that I've been using early game that exchanges 2 artifact slots and 10% shield for +100 speed.

What's a good energy weapons combo for Bertor fighting? I usually run with 5 AV's which is good for lots of smaller ships, but not so much for slow and tanky targets. My current ship has 3 AV's and 2 Wave phasers modded for droid and weapons blocking. I haven't tried electronic cutters because I'm not sure if it affects loot drops.

[Rage Herald]

Proportioner: Reduces the feeding of the protective field by half, thereby increasing the power of the energy weapon proportionately (+10%, 22.5%, 35%, 47.5%, 60% of capacity, depending on the number of energy guns, from 5 to 1).
For equipment from a black hole:
- The weapon buff is 1.5 times stronger.
- The debuff on the shield is -25% instead of -50%.

To combat dominators, a combination of 2 verticles + 3 IMHO (Proportioner + Navint + Pyaterik + complete set of myoplasma / nanobrolyte equipment) or a set of torpedoes works well, which will be worse in terms of the speed of stripping the system, but it works on medium ships + not so critical to equipment and artifacts(in fact, only a good engine and droid are needed).

Raketang, IMHO, is relevant against pirates, against dominator is enough a'egis

[janat08]

I used rocketang a bit, and it got destroyed before any of the other artefacts got half health (i imagine it does things a lot- vs dominators that was). What i don't understand is that proportioner doesn't seem to actuall change damage values that pop up when firing (with atomic vision which is energy, with 36% shields), while I definitely lose lots of tank.

Regarding charisma, later you'll be somewhat dependent on having subordinates and I imagine charisma helps you recruit them.

[janat08]

Lol apparently I didn't even use rocketang correctly, you supposedly have to activate while its in art slot.

or that seems to be for destroying your own rockets.

[Abaduaber]

>or that seems to be for destroying your own rockets.
Yep. Activation just destroys the rockets you launched. And equipped rocketang just adds a passive rocket defence effect.