Baten Kaitos I & II HD Remaster

Baten Kaitos I & II HD Remaster

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TyrorexDMZ Jun 17, 2024 @ 3:26pm
Did they put the English voices back in?
As far as I heard, the Japanese lines weren't changed despite saying nearly the same thing, so removing the English dialogue altogether for a few alleged problematic lines was silly. And even if they can't get back the Japan-residing English VAs or the USA-anime VAs, they could at least get soundalikes to redub the few problematic lines to simply not have the issues they had anymore.
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mullet2000 Jun 17, 2024 @ 3:27pm 
No. Someone modded it for the Switch version already so I'd expect a dub mod to pop up pretty quickly for this.
BacklogRob Jun 17, 2024 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by TyrorexDMZ:
As far as I heard, the Japanese lines weren't changed despite saying nearly the same thing, so removing the English dialogue altogether for a few alleged problematic lines was silly. And even if they can't get back the Japan-residing English VAs or the USA-anime VAs, they could at least get soundalikes to redub the few problematic lines to simply not have the issues they had anymore.
I WISH
ingueferroque Jun 17, 2024 @ 3:43pm 
The opening animation was in English, but the game itself is in Japanese. I would have opted for the original Japanese VO regardless, but it would have been nice to have the option.
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TheShadowHatter Jun 17, 2024 @ 3:48pm 
"problematic lines"

man I'm so exhausted over this generation of gaming where everyone is walking on eggshells not to offend people who wouldn't have bought this game anyways. even more tired that it keeps happening over and over and over again with other remasters and even newer games getting censors. I just want to play and enjoy a game without drama.
sunofpearl89 Jun 17, 2024 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by TheShadowHatter:
"problematic lines"

man I'm so exhausted over this generation of gaming where everyone is walking on eggshells not to offend people who wouldn't have bought this game anyways. even more tired that it keeps happening over and over and over again with other remasters and even newer games getting censors. I just want to play and enjoy a game without drama.
You're going to get snarky responses from censorship apologists bending themselves into a pretzel trying to argue that it isn't censorship just because it's minor censorship but you are absolutely right. Sloppy and/or censorious localization needs more pushback than it gets.
TheShadowHatter Jun 17, 2024 @ 5:17pm 
problem is that it's not going to happen because the strategy they have is working. they become EXHAUSTING people to deal with and after a certain point you just get tired of expressing even the mildest push back because you KNOW they'll just be aggressively annoying and try to get everyone against you. It's just not worth the hassle anymore and so, for me personally, I just keep my mouth shut and let the sales speak for themselves. Forspoken was bad enough to shut a studio down so it's only a matter of time before the same fate happens to other studios that want to try to appeal to "modern audiences" that aren't even going to save them when they fall.
sunofpearl89 Jun 17, 2024 @ 5:32pm 
Originally posted by TheShadowHatter:
problem is that it's not going to happen because the strategy they have is working. they become EXHAUSTING people to deal with and after a certain point you just get tired of expressing even the mildest push back because you KNOW they'll just be aggressively annoying and try to get everyone against you. It's just not worth the hassle anymore and so, for me personally, I just keep my mouth shut and let the sales speak for themselves. Forspoken was bad enough to shut a studio down so it's only a matter of time before the same fate happens to other studios that want to try to appeal to "modern audiences" that aren't even going to save them when they fall.
I hear ya, but in fairness, the pants-on-head retarded publisher shadow dropping the PC version will be what hurts this release if anything.
Hinamina Jun 17, 2024 @ 6:20pm 
They altered, some may say censored, a lot of the english dialogue that was deemed "problematic". A good example what to expect is the fact that you cannot choose your gender as the spirit at the beginning anymore. While the japanese version of this remaster still lets you choose.
Hells Malice Jun 17, 2024 @ 6:59pm 
Originally posted by ヒナタちゃん:
They altered, some may say censored, a lot of the english dialogue that was deemed "problematic". A good example what to expect is the fact that you cannot choose your gender as the spirit at the beginning anymore. While the japanese version of this remaster still lets you choose.

That's beyond goofy.
I'm really confused how gender...existing...became controversial for publishers. It's not even gender politics, it's just weird.
fireguardiancoty Jun 17, 2024 @ 7:31pm 
There wasn't anything problematic with the games. Thankfully now that it's on PC people can fix the game with mods and you don't have to give Bamco any money to get it.
Drilbit Jun 17, 2024 @ 9:02pm 
Originally posted by sunofpearl89:
Originally posted by TheShadowHatter:
problem is that it's not going to happen because the strategy they have is working. they become EXHAUSTING people to deal with and after a certain point you just get tired of expressing even the mildest push back because you KNOW they'll just be aggressively annoying and try to get everyone against you. It's just not worth the hassle anymore and so, for me personally, I just keep my mouth shut and let the sales speak for themselves. Forspoken was bad enough to shut a studio down so it's only a matter of time before the same fate happens to other studios that want to try to appeal to "modern audiences" that aren't even going to save them when they fall.
I hear ya, but in fairness, the pants-on-head retarded publisher shadow dropping the PC version will be what hurts this release if anything.
It didnt do very well on switch either, so bamco is probably just releasing to get as many sales as possible. Not surprising since its not a very good remaster and had little to no marketing.
Hinamina Jun 18, 2024 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by fireguardiancoty:
There wasn't anything problematic with the games. Thankfully now that it's on PC people can fix the game with mods and you don't have to give Bamco any money to get it.
Even if one modder is bored enough to do it for a niche title like this, people will just pirate this game. I doubt those that care want to support this crap.
DeadJericho Jun 18, 2024 @ 3:27am 
i hate reading subtitles in games. not buying it without english voice acting
i will just play my gamecube original.
ingueferroque Jun 18, 2024 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by DeadJericho:
i hate reading subtitles in games. not buying it without english voice acting
i will just play my gamecube original.

Pretty sure only some of the lines in the game are voiced. You're going to have to read most of the dialogue either way.
fireguardiancoty Jun 18, 2024 @ 5:03am 
Originally posted by ヒナタちゃん:
Originally posted by fireguardiancoty:
There wasn't anything problematic with the games. Thankfully now that it's on PC people can fix the game with mods and you don't have to give Bamco any money to get it.
Even if one modder is bored enough to do it for a niche title like this, people will just pirate this game. I doubt those that care want to support this crap.
It's already been done with the Switch version. All they need to do is apply the same thing to this one.
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