Can i get a game in standard that isnt running 20 removal spells and 8 sweepers? Thanks

[Jaybird33]

I know Im beating a dead horse here but im actually sickened by the games Im getting in Standard. Is it satisfying to play this way? THousands of possibilites, but you want to run the same removal over and over.

[ZAP]

Originally posted by Trevor Lahey:

Originally posted by ZAP:

Running permanents not worth removing is clutch in the current arena meta, all formats.

*puts down a card to make 2 rat tokens that can't block*:Barrage:

No those are good and if the opponent likes rats as an animal, the match would be slightly enjoyable to them. You have to make the game not worth playing.

[ZAP]

For some reason taxing people cuts down on removal to less than one per turn on average it seems. Was running step bros but Thalia is my waifu so it was offensive to me and Hushbringer is better
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3092018249
https://youtu.be/UtvmTu4zAMg?feature=shared

[Berserkr]

Originally posted by ZAP:

For some reason taxing people cuts down on removal to less than one per turn on average it seems. Was running step bros but Thalia is my waifu so it was offensive to me and Hushbringer is better
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3092018249
https://youtu.be/UtvmTu4zAMg?feature=shared

You never thought of putting the new 6 cost artifact in it? Your spells can't be countered and you discover 5 at the end of your turn

[ZAP]

Originally posted by Berserkr:

Originally posted by ZAP:

For some reason taxing people cuts down on removal to less than one per turn on average it seems. Was running step bros but Thalia is my waifu so it was offensive to me and Hushbringer is better
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3092018249
https://youtu.be/UtvmTu4zAMg?feature=shared

You never thought of putting the new 6 cost artifact in it? Your spells can't be countered and you discover 5 at the end of your turn

I've got a copy but the two 6 drops in there just outright win the game when combined with the rest of the deck against more colors. 3 or 4 Cavern of Souls is better probably, casting Baneslayer is the goal "late" game and is the crowd pleaser.

Sideboard it if was playing BO3.

[Jaybird33]

Originally posted by Berserkr:

So OP are you playing mono red, mono blue or mono black? Board wipes are absolutely justified vs mono red jank

no actually I dont play any mono color decks. I do have a mono-red but I never play it. I have a w/g enchantment deck, a w/b soldier deck, fight rigging, w/g tokens, I like to play creatures with very little removal because I find removal cheap and boring. I see everyone here defening it are the folks running depop, sunfall, throw for the goat. Skill issue I guess.

[Jaybird33]

Originally posted by Minmataro:

Standards power creep is strong rn. If you run a creature deck maybe slot in some protection cards to stop your opp from deleting all your creates. With board wipes you need to play around that dont over commit.

Yeah I will consider this for sure, thank you!

[Jaybird33]

Originally posted by Trevor Lahey:

removal is essential for any type of competitive play.

Some removal for the win cons sure. But having every card I play removed as it hits the field is stupid and annoying

[Berserkr]

Originally posted by Jaybird33:

I see everyone here defening it are the folks running depop, sunfall, throw for the goat. Skill issue I guess.

People don't like being stomped by big stompy ♥♥♥♥ lol
But yeah Sunfall is a pain in the arse for sure, people just have to learn to not drop their entire hand on the board all at once, it is what it is

[_Fell]

Originally posted by Berserkr:

people just have to learn to not drop their entire hand on the board all at once, it is what it is

since discover has gone meta, a lot of players have thankfully moved away from removal towards playing free cards en masse. but for awhile it wasnt even throwing out your board just to succumb to a sweeper. it was every single non land permanent having removal thrown at it. it didnt really matter what you played or if you tried to play around it, there was always removal being used on you. from white enchants soft exiling or making them unable to attack/block, black murder effects, blue bounce and witness protection, green fights/1sided fights, to even generic shocks and bolts.

throughout mtg history, each rotation averaged 5 to 8 sets, with the rare exception of 9 in 2008. were currently in unprecedented times, and currently have 11 legal sets in standard, with another 5 sets coming before both of the innistrads, kamigawa, and new capenna rotate out. there is simply way too much available to use at once.

take a shot for each time we say removal in this thread

[Berserkr]

yeah the extra year of rotation is definitely screwing things over

[sobacha]

Yes this meta has an insane amount of cheap removal no matter the color.
Not fun at all.

[ZAP]

Swapped in three of the white 1 drop counterspell for historic. Removers (derogatory term) seem upset about the whole aspect.

[Sonic Mirage 🎸]

Try a different game?