new season broke the "hand smoother"

[Daddy Prime]

Only 2 mana hands, forced losses due to rigged deck so that I cant draw manna. forced loss streaks. Refund any money you can and dont give wizards/hasbro any more money.

[zahlenmaler]

There is no "hand smoother"
Have never been and will never be

[Ha 何豪源]

holy crap, the rigging is so unreal again during the weekend, maybe the update made it even worse ... or for us evne more clear how evil they really are

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by Daddy Prime:

Only 2 mana hands, forced losses due to rigged deck so that I cant draw manna. forced loss streaks. Refund any money you can and dont give wizards/hasbro any more money.

Funny, my hands have been playing out pretty much normally. Must've only rigged it against you.

[Daddy Prime]

Originally posted by zahlenmaler:

There is no "hand smoother"
Have never been and will never be

You need to literally look into the game you play. The game uses a hand smoother in best of 1 to choose between different potential hands and chooses one it thinks is best instead of just giving you a mulligan like in paper magic, this shuffler has had MANY proven issues, and is also confirmed to exist by wizards multiple times. Just because you choose to think there isn't without proof, doesn't mean you are right. This recent patch has seen this smoother start to choose and favour 2 manna hands over any other type of hand, thus, the smoother is not working not only as intended, but is now rigging games due to forcing 2 manna hands instead of allowing for 3 or even 4 manna hands to show up as often.

[anaris]

none of what you just said is true lol. try adding lands til your deck is more than 2/7ths land

[Daddy Prime]

Originally posted by anaris:

none of what you just said is true lol. try adding lands til your deck is more than 2/7ths land

You really doubt the existence of the hand smoothing, despite wizards being open about it from day one? Really? How about instead of looking dumb just google it. Best of one uses hand smoothing to decide your opening hand. Look it up instead of being ignorant and using your opinion as if it were fact.

[SupaFly]

Originally posted by Daddy Prime:

Originally posted by zahlenmaler:

There is no "hand smoother"
Have never been and will never be

You need to literally look into the game you play. The game uses a hand smoother in best of 1 to choose between different potential hands and chooses one it thinks is best instead of just giving you a mulligan like in paper magic, this shuffler has had MANY proven issues, and is also confirmed to exist by wizards multiple times. Just because you choose to think there isn't without proof, doesn't mean you are right. This recent patch has seen this smoother start to choose and favour 2 manna hands over any other type of hand, thus, the smoother is not working not only as intended, but is now rigging games due to forcing 2 manna hands instead of allowing for 3 or even 4 manna hands to show up as often.

It is absolutely wild the amount of energy people will put into denying this. Its truly why this game will never really improve.

[Curfuffle]

I got a 0 land hand last night. Realized i accidentally click Bo3. Bo1, youre only getting 2-3 land hands. Rarely 1 or 4 depending on deck. Hard smoooooothing.

Bo3, you can from 0 land hand into mulliganing a 6 land hand. And all in between. Much more paper/organic like. But everyone insists on playing Bo1 while complaining about how much they hate it. lol

[anaris]

Originally posted by Daddy Prime:

Originally posted by anaris:

none of what you just said is true lol. try adding lands til your deck is more than 2/7ths land

You really doubt the existence of the hand smoothing, despite wizards being open about it from day one? Really? How about instead of looking dumb just google it. Best of one uses hand smoothing to decide your opening hand. Look it up instead of being ignorant and using your opinion as if it were fact.

you realise that's not even close to what i said right?

[anaris]

Originally posted by Curfuffle:

I got a 0 land hand last night. Realized i accidentally click Bo3. Bo1, youre only getting 2-3 land hands. Rarely 1 or 4 depending on deck. Hard smoooooothing.

Bo3, you can from 0 land hand into mulliganing a 6 land hand. And all in between. Much more paper/organic like. But everyone insists on playing Bo1 while complaining about how much they hate it. lol

the hand smoother weights towards the mana ratio of your deck; I see 4 land hands all the time with my control deck (which is 27 or 28 lands in 60, i forget which)

[Daddy Prime]

Originally posted by anaris:

Originally posted by Daddy Prime:

You really doubt the existence of the hand smoothing, despite wizards being open about it from day one? Really? How about instead of looking dumb just google it. Best of one uses hand smoothing to decide your opening hand. Look it up instead of being ignorant and using your opinion as if it were fact.

you realise that's not even close to what i said right?

You tried to say everything I said is a lie, which is doubting the exsistance of a hand smoother. Dude I even Direct Replied to you. Its not the land

[Humperdoo]

Originally posted by Daddy Prime:

Originally posted by anaris:

you realise that's not even close to what i said right?

You tried to say everything I said is a lie, which is doubting the exsistance of a hand smoother. Dude I even Direct Replied to you. Its not the land

Don't bother with him all he does troll

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by Daddy Prime:

Originally posted by zahlenmaler:

There is no "hand smoother"
Have never been and will never be

You need to literally look into the game you play. The game uses a hand smoother in best of 1 to choose between different potential hands and chooses one it thinks is best instead of just giving you a mulligan like in paper magic, this shuffler has had MANY proven issues, and is also confirmed to exist by wizards multiple times. Just because you choose to think there isn't without proof, doesn't mean you are right. This recent patch has seen this smoother start to choose and favour 2 manna hands over any other type of hand, thus, the smoother is not working not only as intended, but is now rigging games due to forcing 2 manna hands instead of allowing for 3 or even 4 manna hands to show up as often.

It's not "the one it thinks is best", it's "the one that mostly matches the overall ratio of your deck". If your deck is 40% land that means it trend towards 2-3 lands. Which is why you're not often seeing 4 land hands. If you want to see 3-4 lands more often then you should run a deck with a higher than 40% ratio.

And of course the mulligan option is still available. But if they only had that in BO1 you'd see a lot more people getting this:

Originally posted by Curfuffle:

I got a 0 land hand last night. Realized i accidentally click Bo3. Bo1, youre only getting 2-3 land hands. Rarely 1 or 4 depending on deck. Hard smoooooothing.

...and screeching that they got 7 lands and that's mathematically impossible and the game is rigged and the devs are evil. Which I assume is why Wizards included the smoother.

[PyroMail.com]

Yet again another "shuffler rigged" thread without solid evidence *yawn*

[zahlenmaler]

Originally posted by Daddy Prime:

Originally posted by zahlenmaler:

There is no "hand smoother"
Have never been and will never be

You need to literally look into the game you play. The game uses a hand smoother in best of 1 to choose between different potential hands and chooses one it thinks is best instead of just giving you a mulligan like in paper magic, this shuffler has had MANY proven issues, and is also confirmed to exist by wizards multiple times. Just because you choose to think there isn't without proof, doesn't mean you are right. This recent patch has seen this smoother start to choose and favour 2 manna hands over any other type of hand, thus, the smoother is not working not only as intended, but is now rigging games due to forcing 2 manna hands instead of allowing for 3 or even 4 manna hands to show up as often.

There is still no "handsmoother" no decision engine of what you describe.
Sorry