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Except fanbase little girl in this "forum" all table player think this game is garbage.
some ai slop service the shop uses flagged my purchase as fraudulent because my email "doesnt have a lot of activity" aka bots havent scraped and sold my data to them
so i didnt get any cards
and the ai slop service is called nofraud, and even big companies like adobe are starting to use it
so yeah. at least im allowed to play arena.
Interesting. I actually work on the other side of that little interaction, sort of. Vendors like the shop tend to get slapped with nasty penalties from the card companies for fraudulent transactions (i.e. I steal your card number and buy something, you file a chargeback, the store I bought from gets penalized because thieves are buying from them), so they buy services from third-party companies that claim to be able to detect fraudulent buyers. One of the metrics they tend to use is email age, if it's e.g. a very new email it's assumed that it's more likely to be fraudulent (like a newly created fake account). Or, you know, the fraud detection service just hasn't happened to see it before.
Tl,dr: the whole process is a pain in the neck for the vendor too and it's all Visa's fault.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HwB01m56cFI final cheat for win easy in this "crap game"
But yeah. Visa is a pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and dated system anyway. The fact that people require all these systems in place because the only thing protecting my money is a series of numbers (that you cannot change without getting an entirely new card) is actually kind of bizarre.
Now that is weird as heck. I've set up entire banking accounts that didn't ask for that much verification. This is an online store?
To be fair, there is an incredible amount of card fraud out there.
So naturally the card companies set up security measures that inconvenience all the legitimate buyers and vendors out there and barely annoy the scammers. C'est la vie.
From my perspective, the economy could be a lot better, but personally I enjoy Magic and enjoy using the client to play it. It is true that I have a large collection and plenty of wild cards but that has happened organically since the client became gold.
From what I hear on the + side plenty of players play for free and experience good things more than bad things, though no one is 100% "yay wotc". There are plenty things the company does to alienate its player base. (Increased paper booster prices, oversaturation and ridiculous schedules for set releases, gimmicky sets, etc. But the overall feeling I get is the game is good and arena is fun. Except when it breaks. Which does happen. Also it would be nice if they hired devs that cared about user experiences. But the main thing is solid.
On the - side most of what I read on the forums seems to be extreme fits of salt rage. I totally get it. The game gets frustrating at times. It seems like the streaks you have where you can't buy a win get longer and longer sometimes. That is the nature of Magic. Because it is deliberately designed to be high variance. There is no difference between paper and arena in that way except maybe for sloppy/bad shuffling irl.
The economy issues with newer players seem to drive some of the salt too since you don't just start out having all the cards you want. It definitely takes a large time investment. You can somewhat short cut this by buying gems for drafting, and buying wild card bundles. Unfortunately for most of us, this is not a practical solution. Time is the commodity most of us spend on the game.
I can actually understand people getting annoyed about the process of working up to the cards you want. You sat down hoping to play X and instead you have to play a hundred games of Y before you have any X to work with.
But it's confusing to me when those people act like this is a unique fault of Arena, something Wizards added to extract money out of online players that's absent in the purity of Paper Magic. It's Magic, the cards cost money and always have. People playing paper are out there buying whole decks for $100 or so; shoot, single cards can cost $100 and up! The only difference in Arena is you at least have the option to acquire by spending time instead of money.
(Not claiming you're saying that to be clear, just that I've seen it in complaints on the forum
Edit: Like the "100% pay to win" thread I noticed after posting this. What does that guy call it when someone spends a couple hundred dollars to buy a top-tier paper deck?
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