infinite combo

[xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx]

can we just ban bloodthirst conquer already

[anaris]

there's a lot of other ways to set up this combo in old sets, so probly not

[xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx]

turn 4 or 5 consistant infinite combo that comboes with 6 other cards and all you have to do is drop him no that has not be done in other sets

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx:

turn 4 or 5 consistant infinite combo that comboes with 6 other cards and all you have to do is drop him no that has not be done in other sets

https://scryfall.com/search?as=full&q=f%3Astandard+o%3A%22destroy+target+creature%22

[xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx]

yeah cant always expect a card removal to be there i dont run 30 in my deck

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx:

yeah cant always expect a card removal to be there i dont run 30 in my deck

See: Target Prioritization

[Guzu]

Originally posted by xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx:

yeah cant always expect a card removal to be there i dont run 30 in my deck

If you don't run removal you will die turn 3 to red aggro or turn 4 to Omniscience combo. Bloodthirsty Conquer is way too slow for the current meta.

[xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx]

i do run removal but not all removal is available to stop an enter the battlefield effect

[xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx]

there is also cards that stop you from casting on your oppenents turn
there is very little counter play and you can get him consistantly to pop of turn 4 or 5 that isnt slow for a you just lose

[anaris]

Originally posted by xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx:

turn 4 or 5 consistant infinite combo that comboes with 6 other cards and all you have to do is drop him no that has not be done in other sets

...the exact same combo is available one mana cheaper in historic

[Guzu]

Originally posted by xXxGoku420NoScopeHeadShotxXx:

i do run removal but not all removal is available to stop an enter the battlefield effect

This combo doesn't kill you out of nowhere. It requires previous set-up. Usually, you can remove part of the combo at least 1 turn before at sorcery speed. Latest, once you see the Conqueror on the stack you can still interrupt the combo at instant speed. You can even let him enter and respond to the first trigger by removing him.

There is a reason you don't see this deck at all in the higher ranks. It's simply too susceptible to removal. And if you have problems with this kind of slow combo deck, you will have a really, really bad time against the BO1 meta decks which are mainly aggro and Omniscience.

[Tom the Mime Artist]

There's actually a scheduled banned and restricted announcement sometime later today/tomorrow. Bloodthirsty conqueror isn't anywhere near a ban consideration or even being competitively viable though. If you're hoping for a beans or monstrous rage ban, those are at least possible, even if I don't think it's likely. I wouldn't be surprised if the only change was underworld breach getting a ban in modern.

[nul]

1. You can usually kill your opponent before they get this combo down. Because they'll usually be under high pressure if you have a better game plan.
2. You can also just remove any combo piece, including the bloodthristy conquerer. Yes, even with the triggers on the stack if your removal is instant and you have the mana up for it. Just don't keep clicking resolve. The only way they fizzle this is with something they have at instant speed that can make them gain life or you lose life. But if they have that, then they aren't doing this on turn 5.
3. If your opponent is playing B/W you should be expecting this.
4. There are worse things.

[anaris]

if u see a soul warden t1, expect bloodthirsty conqueror infinite combo. A fair number of decks won't run it, but lifegain without it is *just awful* so you'll win anyway

[Winter Wolf]

Originally posted by anaris:

if u see a soul warden t1, expect bloodthirsty conqueror infinite combo. A fair number of decks won't run it, but lifegain without it is *just awful* so you'll win anyway

hey now stop picking on my pet Soul Sistas. They rock. Just not in Ranked except with Coco angels maybe. I feel like Conqueror would be a bit slow for sisters though.

[anaris]

there are actually some other ways to do it well, i see the lifegain into angel combos sometimes too, but like... 99% of lifegain I see is just like "i bet i'll figure out a way to win once i have 150 life"