MWM standard pauper "see you next week!"

[Argstein]

yea see you next week instead

standard pauper? seriously? that's like saying let's not let you use any of the fun cards and then narrowing down the card pool even more

[anaris]

all commons is a nightmare format that nobody should play. Pauper isn't QUITE as bad as that though, there's a lot of great unnoticed stars. Up until this week there was an uncommon in Aetherdrift that was eligible for Pauper - then it became the star of a Legacy deck (Legacy being the turn 0 eternal format) and has gone up to 5x the price as a result.

[Frost]

Yeah, it's pretty bad.

Pick your fighter: Mono Red Burn, Black Discard, Dimir Toxic.

Not much different from regular standard queues. Hordes of red decks. Not necessarily a problem with pauper queues, definitely a problem with standard as a whole.

[Winter Wolf]

I mean it was not really hard though I did not fare as well as I would have liked, losing to two very fast decks (1 aggro and surprisingly one proliferate poison blue deck) I played BW drain artifacts (similar to thousand cuts or aristocrats style play) and beat 3 fairly strong decks (all aggro.)

I think the fun in this format is the restrictions and having to play with cards you wouldn't even consider normally as the power levels are far below even most uncommons. There are a few outstanding cards but mostly it was very low power with red having the best attackers and white and black having the best answers imho.

[Tom the Mime Artist]

Originally posted by anaris:

all commons is a nightmare format that nobody should play. Pauper isn't QUITE as bad as that though, there's a lot of great unnoticed stars. Up until this week there was an uncommon in Aetherdrift that was eligible for Pauper - then it became the star of a Legacy deck (Legacy being the turn 0 eternal format) and has gone up to 5x the price as a result.

1. All commons is pauper. That's what it is. That's all it is
2. No the uncommon was not pauper eligible
3. Stock up (pretty sure this is the one you're talking about) isn't the star of the legacy deck. It provides card advantage and selection at a decent rate and avoids bowmasters so it might see more play in non-rotating formats in the right decks but calling it the star is delusional.

[anaris]

fascinating, not one thing you just said was correct

[anaris]

https://scryfall.com/card/v13/10/chainers-edict pauper legal mythic rares are a thing

[anaris]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Aetherdrift/Stock+Up#online it absolutely was pauper legal

[anaris]

https://www.wargamer.com/magic-the-gathering/stock-up-price-spike

PO Lurrus loves it

[Tom the Mime Artist]

Pauper legality is defined by the card having at least one printing at common. You can run whatever printing of it you want, as long a it's legal in the format. If you want to bling out your pauper deck with rare reprints from secret lairs and special guest slots, you can as long as the cards have been printed at common at some stage.

Chainers's Edict has had a printing at common (vintage masters) -> pauper legal

Stock Up has only been printed in Aetherdrift and at uncommon -> not pauper legal and never has been,

This isn't complicated.

Paradoxical outcome likes Stock Up but it isn't the star of the deck. That's, unsurprisingly, paradoxical outcome.

[Zlehtnoba]

There is another format that allows commons and uncommons, but I can't remember the name right now.

I'm not sure if a card that was printed at common in paper, but only has a rare or uncommon version on Arena, is legal in Arena pauper. I think not, but I may be wrong.

[Tom the Mime Artist]

Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:

There is another format that allows commons and uncommons, but I can't remember the name right now.

I'm not sure if a card that was printed at common in paper, but only has a rare or uncommon version on Arena, is legal in Arena pauper. I think not, but I may be wrong.

On Arena? It's artisan. On paper there's probably a couple of different names but no significant community afaik. It's the sort of format that would badly need a reasonably formal banlist as otherwise, there are uncommon's that would break the format and be very expensive, which defeats the point of the format. Think ancient tomb, force of will, mana drain, demonic tutor as some examples, not one of which is below $30. A playset of any of them would cost more than virtually any competitive pauper deck.

And for Arena pauper, yes, it has to have a common version on Arena. Which is for the best given that spending a dozen rare wildcards (bolt, brainstorm and counterspell for an izzet skred style deck) doesn't really feel in the spirit of pauper.