Looking for a new deck

[CJ desu]

Free to play player here. My current deck is a pretty fun make lots of big creatures red/green deck of my own invention - pretty rubbish against meta decks, but does okay at the Platinum level on ranked alchemy. Roughly 60% win rate against non-black, maybe 15% win rate against black/the ring or black/shelly.

Looking to make a new deck from scratch that might be more competitive in ranked alchemy. Need to save up for some more Rare/Mythic wildcards, but it can be a project. Most of the decklists I've seen online include cards that aren't available in alchemy, so thought I'd try here.

[Winter Wolf]

Alchemy is tough because a) it JUST rotated and b) the best cards are in Historic as they long since have rotated away from Alchemy. However, as the saying goes, if you can't beat em you could try joining them. OTOH you say you have a 60% win rate? Maybe just try to tweak your deck away from what loses to Shelly/One Ring shenanigans (I bring 4x Skyclaves in Historic for most decks because it permanently eats rings for breakfast even if it dies.)

Removal + aggro + counterspells + tempo plays can all be good against Shelly/MB decks and also fend off the rest of the meta. Have you checked out untapped.gg. mtgazone or reddit?

[CJ desu]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Winter Wolf:

Alchemy is tough because a) it JUST rotated and b) the best cards are in Historic as they long since have rotated away from Alchemy. However, as the saying goes, if you can't beat em you could try joining them. OTOH you say you have a 60% win rate? Maybe just try to tweak your deck away from what loses to Shelly/One Ring shenanigans (I bring 4x Skyclaves in Historic for most decks because it permanently eats rings for breakfast even if it dies.)

Removal + aggro + counterspells + tempo plays can all be good against Shelly/MB decks and also fend off the rest of the meta. Have you checked out untapped.gg. mtgazone or reddit?

Very helpful, thanks! Just checked out those and they look like very useful resources. Also confirmed my black-is-currently-overpowered bias: https://mtga.untapped.gg/meta/decks?format=alchemy&meta=previous&rank=GOLD_TO_PLATINUM

• 13 top decks in alchemy of which 3 are variations of black-nazgul, so say 11 decks
  
• 9 out of 11 utilise black, of which 4 are mono-black and 3 are two-colour with black
  
• mono-red aggro is the only non-black mono-colour deck.

Yikes, but it looks like if I want to win I have to join team black probably.

Any particular decks that are fun to play though? Just spamming the board with nazgul and the ring temps you doesn't exactly strike me as fun as you could probably train a monkey to play that deck.

[fourskulls]

I've been playing Esper Auras and Naya Food. Both are pretty fun decks. Might be hard to build though.

[CJ desu]

Oprindeligt skrevet af fourskulls:

I've been playing Esper Auras and Naya Food. Both are pretty fun decks. Might be hard to build though.

Not sure I'm familiar with either of those (by name at least) - do you have a link to an example decklist so I can have a look?

[Winter Wolf]

I am not a fan of LOTR alchemy so I would say no not much fun in that format right now. Dungeons/Forgotten Realms alchemy was fun. Standard is more fun than Alchemy imho. Historic is probably your best bet. There are many fun decks in Historic with varying degrees of success from Combo, to control to grindy to mill. I prefer midrange grindy control style decks (sweepers, removal, etb value creatures) but each one is viable. And Shelly is merely another really good creature there.

I'm currently running a fun blink deck, (was running Vannifar pod but it is was very subpar vs a large swathe of decks, and before that Coco Angels which is competitive but inconsistent vs certain decks) but since I am not really laddering with it I might not be the best source for competitive ideas. It does well in the low-mid tiers (up to plat) and is competitive to a degree past that but for example I stopped bothering at plat 3 because Id rather ladder less next month (gold 4 instead of silver 1 if I stop at plat 3 and don't slide back to 4). Granted I probably could go much further but since I dislike the 1 step forward 1-2 steps back nature of ladder I don't bother. Mythic is a merely 2 packs more than Plat and that's 48 wins away from Plat 4 at minimum. Seems not worth it.

That said if you are determined, RDW is more fun than control black imho. Assuming you have the right cards and right format. (It does best in Standard afaik).

[fourskulls]

Oprindeligt skrevet af CJ desu:

Oprindeligt skrevet af fourskulls:

I've been playing Esper Auras and Naya Food. Both are pretty fun decks. Might be hard to build though.

Not sure I'm familiar with either of those (by name at least) - do you have a link to an example decklist so I can have a look?

Eh, just saw that you're looking for something for ranked alchemy. These are more for fun, but here:

Deck
4 Eriette of the Charmed Apple (WOE) 202
2 Island (SLD) 1400
4 Plains (SLD) 1399
3 Archon of the Wild Rose (WOE) 1
3 Witness Protection (SNC) 66
2 Swamp (SLD) 1401
3 Bitter Chill (WOE) 44
3 Spellbook Vendor (WOE) 31
3 Savior of the Sleeping (WOE) 28
3 Shrouded Shepherd (WOE) 236
3 Asinine Antics (WOE) 42
2 Neva, Stalked by Nightmares (WOE) 209
3 Clawing Torment (NEO) 91
3 Katilda, Dawnhart Martyr (VOW) 21
3 Combat Research (DMU) 44
3 Seachrome Coast (ONE) 258
3 Shattered Sanctum (VOW) 264
3 Darkslick Shores (ONE) 250
2 Raffine's Tower (SNC) 254
3 Not Dead After All (WOE) 101
3 Obscura Storefront (SNC) 252
2 Deserted Beach (MID) 260
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Deck
4 Copperline Gorge (ONE) 249
2 Mountain (SLD) 1402
4 Razorverge Thicket (ONE) 257
4 Jetmir's Garden (SNC) 250
3 Fight Rigging (SNC) 145
3 Food Fight (WOE) 129
3 Botanical Brawler (MOM) 220
3 Welcome to Sweettooth (WOE) 198
3 Kami of Whispered Hopes (MOM) 196
4 Spider Food (WOE) 186
3 Halana and Alena, Partners (VOW) 239
1 Boseiju, Who Endures (NEO) 266
4 Rocco, Street Chef (MAT) 44
1 Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire (NEO) 268
2 Food Coma (WOE) 308
2 Restless Bivouac (WOE) 257
3 Karplusan Forest (DMU) 250
1 Forest (SLD) 1403
2 Plains (SLD) 1399
3 Teething Wurmlet (BRO) 192
3 Night of the Sweets' Revenge (WOE) 178
2 Gruff Triplets (WOE) 172
3 Syr Ginger, the Meal Ender (WOE) 252