Conceding

[fVnkie_nVggie01]

So, I don't know a lot about Magic, but I'm learning a lot and coming from knowing basically nothing at all, I can tell you some of the basic principles of the game. From what I've seen so far, you can win a lot of games with the starter decks and the free stuff you get but you basically have to know a lot about deckbuilding and personally purchase the better cards to get as good as some of these other players (Idk how to build decks yet and some of these opponents are rly cracked lol). One thing that I've realized recently is the amount of people that give up mid match so quickly? I don't know if it's because I'm still at lower rankings or if it's just me but 9/10 I don't get to finish the match or get my opponent down to 0 health because my opponent concedes when they run out of cards in their hand or if I look like I'm gonna win. I understand the thought process "oh, well if they're just gonna win what's the point of playing" but it's made the experience less fun for me. Idk is it just me?

[nul]

Postat inițial de mwesthoff:

Like when you realize the auto mana picker just screwed you out of a game (yes a skill issue) no need to continue from that point most of the time. These new lands with the gimmicks are real good about that.

Arena really went from autotapping your creature lands to not autotapping your oakhollow village

I've been getting better at manually tapping because of that though. A lesson I need to learn the hard way


Edit: as for conceding, some of us are playing for free and don't have a lot of free time. Getting those quests done are important

[mwesthoff]

Postat inițial de nul:

Postat inițial de mwesthoff:

Like when you realize the auto mana picker just screwed you out of a game (yes a skill issue) no need to continue from that point most of the time. These new lands with the gimmicks are real good about that.

Arena really went from autotapping your creature lands to not autotapping your oakhollow village

I've been getting better at manually tapping because of that though. A lesson I need to learn the hard way


Edit: as for conceding, some of us are playing for free and don't have a lot of free time. Getting those quests done are important

You'd think I would learn quicker since I used to play mtgo.. nope. MF will double tap two oak hollows if don't pay attention.

I'd have a 70% win rate with rabbits if only I would stop trusting the game.

[nul]

Postat inițial de mwesthoff:

Postat inițial de nul:

Arena really went from autotapping your creature lands to not autotapping your oakhollow village

I've been getting better at manually tapping because of that though. A lesson I need to learn the hard way


Edit: as for conceding, some of us are playing for free and don't have a lot of free time. Getting those quests done are important

You'd think I would learn quicker since I used to play mtgo.. nope. MF will double tap two oak hollows if don't pay attention.

I'd have a 70% win rate with rabbits if only I would stop trusting the game.

think the worst to happen to me was being unable to level up innkeeper's talent because it tapped all my forests and none of my oakhollows to play either innkeeper or another card, i forget

i could just take the oakhollow out but you know, every 3 matches or so it gives one of my creatures a +1/+1. the value!

[mwesthoff]

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Postat inițial de mwesthoff:

You'd think I would learn quicker since I used to play mtgo.. nope. MF will double tap two oak hollows if don't pay attention.

I'd have a 70% win rate with rabbits if only I would stop trusting the game.

think the worst to happen to me was being unable to level up innkeeper's talent because it tapped all my forests and none of my oakhollows to play either innkeeper or another card, i forget

i could just take the oakhollow out but you know, every 3 matches or so it gives one of my creatures a +1/+1. the value!

casting double pawpatch for a 3/2 and a 2/2 for five mana is the goal... but you have to manually tap to pull it off... or better yet Hop to It for x3 2/2 rabbit tokens for 5 mana.

It's enough to push the late game into being very favorable if cards become scarce.. against black discard.

[Namdoolb]

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Postat inițial de mwesthoff:

You'd think I would learn quicker since I used to play mtgo.. nope. MF will double tap two oak hollows if don't pay attention.

I'd have a 70% win rate with rabbits if only I would stop trusting the game.

think the worst to happen to me was being unable to level up innkeeper's talent because it tapped all my forests and none of my oakhollows to play either innkeeper or another card, i forget

i could just take the oakhollow out but you know, every 3 matches or so it gives one of my creatures a +1/+1. the value!

I feel the pain on all counts here:
Trying to play bats in standard & having to remember not to use the autotapper because you actually want to do a point of damage to yourself with caves of koilos.

I've mistakenly given that job to the autotapper enough times now that I feel genuinely disappointed with myself whenever I do & I either don't have flying on my essence channeler, or miss my end step trigger on my lunar convocation because of it.
Both of those things failing to go off because I gave the job to the autotapper have cost me games at this point.

[Green Beets]

Update: I will concede whenever Phyrexian Obliterator drops. Adding that to my short list of broken cards. Only 4??? Broken times two.

[King0Frod]

It's the ones who concede after turn 1 thoughtseize that you gotta watch out for. Otherwise nothing wrong with saving everyone the time and moving on to the next game.

[mwesthoff]

Boobie, Hoobie the Noobie says, "I need to hold on to my removal spells longer, to avoid this skill issue".

[LiquidFox]

If you are winning with precon decks its because of the you are only facing others with low level decks. Matchmaking is done in the background among lies.

[ChaffyExpert]

Postat inițial de Winter Wolf:

There is nothing wrong with conceding at any time UNLESS it somehow impacts the prize at the end (such as getting someone else into first place). This game has always been "play what you want, concede when you want." Always. Since long before Arena was a thought.

That said, among friends it would be rude to concede without conferring with them. Among strangers, it depends on the setting. On Arena, the setting is you fight strangers until someone gives up or loses (or in the very rare case the game ends in a draw.)

You can't confer with strangers on Arena because there is no in game chat option unless you know a player's numeric code which is normally hidden.

You can't know what your opponent's goals are so assuming they want you to play it out is also kind of lame. Some will, some won't.

Conceding because they are having a bad day, or have a bad hand, or because the moon rose are all legitimate reasons. Whether or not you think so.

What's not legit is when they hit the x without conceding forcing you to either wait for the game to end with their forfeit, or you concede in frustration because another game is just around the corner waiting for a button press.

That can get people banned. Fortunately the number of people doing that is fairly low.

Yeah of course you say that, you call me heinous and i'm the one that gets banned for a month for defending myself. It's easy to support moderation and rules when you don't have to follow them and can do whatever you want without consequence.

[Ripshot Blue]

Postat inițial de ChaffyExpert:

Postat inițial de Winter Wolf:

There is nothing wrong with conceding at any time UNLESS it somehow impacts the prize at the end (such as getting someone else into first place). This game has always been "play what you want, concede when you want." Always. Since long before Arena was a thought.

That said, among friends it would be rude to concede without conferring with them. Among strangers, it depends on the setting. On Arena, the setting is you fight strangers until someone gives up or loses (or in the very rare case the game ends in a draw.)

You can't confer with strangers on Arena because there is no in game chat option unless you know a player's numeric code which is normally hidden.

You can't know what your opponent's goals are so assuming they want you to play it out is also kind of lame. Some will, some won't.

Conceding because they are having a bad day, or have a bad hand, or because the moon rose are all legitimate reasons. Whether or not you think so.

What's not legit is when they hit the x without conceding forcing you to either wait for the game to end with their forfeit, or you concede in frustration because another game is just around the corner waiting for a button press.

That can get people banned. Fortunately the number of people doing that is fairly low.

Yeah of course you say that, you call me heinous and i'm the one that gets banned for a month for defending myself. It's easy to support moderation and rules when you don't have to follow them and can do whatever you want without consequence.

Do you think the steam forums are ran by WotC because their generally not, most times its an actual valve employee that shuts down a thread. Perhaps you wouldnt get banned if you stayed on the threads topic instead of turning it into a self bitter rant.

[Winter Wolf]

Postat inițial de ChaffyExpert:

Postat inițial de Winter Wolf:

There is nothing wrong with conceding at any time UNLESS it somehow impacts the prize at the end (such as getting someone else into first place). This game has always been "play what you want, concede when you want." Always. Since long before Arena was a thought.

That said, among friends it would be rude to concede without conferring with them. Among strangers, it depends on the setting. On Arena, the setting is you fight strangers until someone gives up or loses (or in the very rare case the game ends in a draw.)

You can't confer with strangers on Arena because there is no in game chat option unless you know a player's numeric code which is normally hidden.

You can't know what your opponent's goals are so assuming they want you to play it out is also kind of lame. Some will, some won't.

Conceding because they are having a bad day, or have a bad hand, or because the moon rose are all legitimate reasons. Whether or not you think so.

What's not legit is when they hit the x without conceding forcing you to either wait for the game to end with their forfeit, or you concede in frustration because another game is just around the corner waiting for a button press.

That can get people banned. Fortunately the number of people doing that is fairly low.

Yeah of course you say that, you call me heinous and i'm the one that gets banned for a month for defending myself. It's easy to support moderation and rules when you don't have to follow them and can do whatever you want without consequence.

Um that's an interesting take. When have I not followed the forum rules?? What exactly are you talking about? And more to the point, what does this have to do with what I said? Bans in game happen when people do things in game. If you got banned in game for something you did in the forums that's just weird.

[mwesthoff]

Postat inițial de ChaffyExpert:

Postat inițial de Winter Wolf:

There is nothing wrong with conceding at any time UNLESS it somehow impacts the prize at the end (such as getting someone else into first place). This game has always been "play what you want, concede when you want." Always. Since long before Arena was a thought.

That said, among friends it would be rude to concede without conferring with them. Among strangers, it depends on the setting. On Arena, the setting is you fight strangers until someone gives up or loses (or in the very rare case the game ends in a draw.)

You can't confer with strangers on Arena because there is no in game chat option unless you know a player's numeric code which is normally hidden.

You can't know what your opponent's goals are so assuming they want you to play it out is also kind of lame. Some will, some won't.

Conceding because they are having a bad day, or have a bad hand, or because the moon rose are all legitimate reasons. Whether or not you think so.

What's not legit is when they hit the x without conceding forcing you to either wait for the game to end with their forfeit, or you concede in frustration because another game is just around the corner waiting for a button press.

That can get people banned. Fortunately the number of people doing that is fairly low.

Yeah of course you say that, you call me heinous and i'm the one that gets banned for a month for defending myself. It's easy to support moderation and rules when you don't have to follow them and can do whatever you want without consequence.

I have been banned for using hearts to give someone a complement and got banned because of what someone else imagined that I said. Aint that some ♥♥♥♥?

[anaris]

Postat inițial de fVnkie_nVggie01:

So, I don't know a lot about Magic, but I'm learning a lot and coming from knowing basically nothing at all, I can tell you some of the basic principles of the game. From what I've seen so far, you can win a lot of games with the starter decks and the free stuff you get but you basically have to know a lot about deckbuilding and personally purchase the better cards to get as good as some of these other players (Idk how to build decks yet and some of these opponents are rly cracked lol). One thing that I've realized recently is the amount of people that give up mid match so quickly? I don't know if it's because I'm still at lower rankings or if it's just me but 9/10 I don't get to finish the match or get my opponent down to 0 health because my opponent concedes when they run out of cards in their hand or if I look like I'm gonna win. I understand the thought process "oh, well if they're just gonna win what's the point of playing" but it's made the experience less fun for me. Idk is it just me?

Some people will concede out of frustration if you play certain cards they don't wanna play against, but as you develop past starter decks particularly, you will find the majority of conceding is people going "...well, I know what's in my deck, and it doesn't include anything that deals with what you just played. Good game, you win."

[ChaffyExpert]

Postat inițial de mwesthoff:

Postat inițial de ChaffyExpert:

Yeah of course you say that, you call me heinous and i'm the one that gets banned for a month for defending myself. It's easy to support moderation and rules when you don't have to follow them and can do whatever you want without consequence.

I have been banned for using hearts to give someone a complement and got banned because of what someone else imagined that I said. Aint that some ♥♥♥♥?

Yep that's how 'good' steam mods are.