Universes Beyond being standard legal moving forward

[StuffedPlatypusLuvsOrigamiRabbit]

How does everyone feel about this? Am I being a boomer, is it time to freshen up the game and bring in new blood with every crossover known to man?

I joined the game years ago for the fantasy art and lore. So the new direction is a pretty big bummer for me. I'm not looking forward to having to cast Thano's Snap on Spongebob before he can assemble all his Krabby Patty artifacts.

Hell even the mainline universe isn't doing it for me. 80's horror, cowboy hats, and now what I can only assume is going to be a Mad Max Mariokart set. No thanks.

But I did enjoy Bloomborrow, which I know a lot of people didn't like because it was to cutesy (edgelords if you ask me...) And as someone that grew up on Final Fantasy I may be tempted to pick up some of those cards but I'd much rather have them not be standard legal.

Surely other people are excited for this because the UB sets sell well. But are they excited to play with Megatron or are they going into a binder as a collectors item to be cherished, or you know resold.

More related to these boards I hope Wizards is going to be able to obtain the rights to all UB sets in digital in perpetuity so we don't have arena standard and paper standard. Pretty sure they skipped MTGO when it came to UB.

[Argstein]

they should bring back the Fallout skin for swords to plowshares

[magnumaniac]

I knew they were planning some stupid sh!t like this - the increased rate of standard releases in the 2nd half of this year just said "money-grabbing-b'stards". At least they have confirmed it and I can drop the game forever now.

Final F***ing Fantasy & Spiderman in MTG - clearly WotC is run by total braindead ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ now.

[BEEN]

I’m done supporting Arena. Those who want spider man to fight SpongeBob can enjoy Magic the Sloppening.

[John-Silver]

Their's nothing wrong with certain universes beyond sets being allowed, the Godzilla ones are a good example of a universe beyond set that should be allowed, the cards are just reskins of actual cards already open for play (they even say the real cards name under the themed named of the card), nothing wrong with these kind of things being standard legal, it's when you start getting into things like LoTR set where the cards are new, with a set mechanic that hasn't really been balanced or tested as heavily verse what's currently in standard in R&D, these become more iffy to justify their presence in standard.

[Frost]

It's a terrible decision driven purely by greed. Genuinely makes me want to drop the game entirely.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Vote with you wallet

[M3rett0]

BEEN a écrit :

I’m done supporting Arena. Those who want spider man to fight SpongeBob can enjoy Magic the Sloppening.

Spongebob won't be standard legal

[Traumaturgy]

If they make Spiderman legal, im done with buying new sets. And I bought a lot. If I wanted another IP I would buy another IP. I want Magic.

[magnumaniac]

The UB sets being standard legal are bad enough, but the bigger problem for me is 6 standard sets per year. With the move to 3 year rotation, and the introduction of a supposed 5-year legal Foundations set, that means the standard card pool will be in the range 3600-5300 cards at any given time (compared to 1400-2250 before the rotation change).

This is simply NOT what Standard should be.

[Traumaturgy]

Money: The gathering
Read some reddit topics, literally every opinion about this decision is negative. There already is fatigue of too frequent sets, and these greedy geniuses plan 6 sets per year, and UB sets that dont fit Magic at all.
This wont end well for them. Im out.

[Namdoolb]

It's wotc trying to force interest in the universes beyond products by making them legal in a competitive format.

Their thinking is that if they make the sets standard legal then it will spike demand for the pushed cards in the sets, thus driving sales.

Personally I think they have overestimated the current level of player engagement with standard: instead of driving sales for UB, i think this will push people away from the standard format due to product fatigue.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

This kind of announcement is probably later than they had originally planned, as ghostbusters secret lair and many of the duskmorn seem to work as if they were designed in compatible styles.

[ChaffyExpert]

John-Silver a écrit :

Their's nothing wrong with certain universes beyond sets being allowed, the Godzilla ones are a good example of a universe beyond set that should be allowed, the cards are just reskins of actual cards already open for play (they even say the real cards name under the themed named of the card), nothing wrong with these kind of things being standard legal, it's when you start getting into things like LoTR set where the cards are new, with a set mechanic that hasn't really been balanced or tested as heavily verse what's currently in standard in R&D, these become more iffy to justify their presence in standard.

Why Spiderman and not LOTR though. I mean LOTR is more in theme with MTG.

[John-Silver]

ChaffyExpert a écrit :

John-Silver a écrit :

Their's nothing wrong with certain universes beyond sets being allowed, the Godzilla ones are a good example of a universe beyond set that should be allowed, the cards are just reskins of actual cards already open for play (they even say the real cards name under the themed named of the card), nothing wrong with these kind of things being standard legal, it's when you start getting into things like LoTR set where the cards are new, with a set mechanic that hasn't really been balanced or tested as heavily verse what's currently in standard in R&D, these become more iffy to justify their presence in standard.

Why Spiderman and not LOTR though. I mean LOTR is more in theme with MTG.

Nothing to do with theme, I also never mentioned spiderman? I just feel like if were going to allow decks with 1 off mechanics like "the ring tempts you" it's a little unfair because these mechanics, at least in the past, were designed and balanced without standard play in mind, where as cards like the Godzilla universes beyond set weren't actually new cards what so ever, their just "skins" of pre-existing mtg cards, these as I stated should always have been allowed in standard.

[ChaffyExpert]

John-Silver a écrit :

ChaffyExpert a écrit :

Why Spiderman and not LOTR though. I mean LOTR is more in theme with MTG.

Nothing to do with theme, I also never mentioned spiderman? I just feel like if were going to allow decks with 1 off mechanics like "the ring tempts you" it's a little unfair because these mechanics, at least in the past, were designed and balanced without standard play in mind, where as cards like the Godzilla universes beyond set weren't actually new cards what so ever, their just "skins" of pre-existing mtg cards, these as I stated should always have been allowed in standard.

I mean why are these new universe beyond going to be standard but LOTR isn't- the latter of which is more in theme with Magic and created the fantasy genre.