Matchmaking

[Skunkster94]

I don't know if anyone else is going through this, however the matchmaking seems completely targeted toward one player or another (leaning heavily one way). Meaning the game can be seen as win or lost right upon opening hand. I've gone days now with now with only a few wins compared to 2 weeks ago where I was finding too easy for the daily wins. The biggest thing that I've been seeing these past few days are whatever deck i chose to play in any format is just answers for anything and everything played. Last night I was playing with black blue mill to get a daily and every deck I played against was 250 cards, only time I've seen these decks is playing mill, another issue I've had is mono colored decks running anti mill. Playing against mono black and they have a random Gaea's blessing? No green mana in the deck could've been produced so it was a dead draw if they had it in hand. This is not a secluded thing either. I've gone as far as removing a few cards and replacing them then its a whole new type of answers I'm facing. I've removed targeted removal in a deck and replaced it with counter spells (Don't usually run counters) however instead of not being able target my opponents things I now can't counter the spells. During these times I find it hard to play because I personally feel the game is holding its hands out for my wallet, I noticed win streaks after i spend money or when i haven't spent any money on the game in roughly a month. The last part has happened to me personally often enough I can start to call out these win-loss streaks in house now.

[GoddessofEternity]

If they have a card that says can’t be countered it can’t be countered… like Chimil

[Kurt Angle's Neck]

Is your Enter/Return key broken?

[Skunkster94]

Originally posted by Goddess of Eternity:

If they have a card that says can’t be countered it can’t be countered… like Chimil

I understand that, what I'm saying is I typically run targeted removal and there's an answer for that right away, I change out a few cards and now it's I can't counter anything. I am not arguing the cards themselves i'm arguing the timing by replacing a play set or 2 (up to 8 cards) of removal for the counter spells.

The argument i'm trying to make here is that whatever I do or build I run into nothing but answers, this I expect will last another 2 weeks before I can actually get at least 5 daily wins compare to my 3 now or even compared to the 15 from 2 weeks ago. I'm arguing that there seems to be a cycle of win loss regardless of what you're doing. I was playing only 20 games for the 15 daily wins, now its 20 games with 3 wins if I'm lucky.

Originally posted by Kurt Angle's Neck:

Is your Enter/Return key broken?

Don't know why this is relevant but to answer your question no. I've got 2 kids and 11 cats so just making sure everything is spelled semi correct is my main thing here.

[Serkian]

The MM of this game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shameful how rigged this is, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shame what those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ devs do with this game honestly, you play a deck and you always get the direct counter in casual against people who use cards with skins even Their asses for putting 500 euros into the game every month, the game and its devs are disgusting.

[Kurt Angle's Neck]

Originally posted by Serkian:

The MM of this game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shameful how rigged this is, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shame what those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ devs do with this game honestly, you play a deck and you always get the direct counter in casual against people who use cards with skins even Their asses for putting 500 euros into the game every month, the game and its devs are disgusting.

I have multiple decks that are almost entirely skinned out, to include having 5 or 6 different skins for each basic land. The only money I've spent on this game was the starter pack and Dogmeat. One day, should you ever decide to stop blaming your follies on others, you too will be able to earn enough to buy whatever you want in the game. I've got around 100k gold coins that are just sitting there for whenever something pops up that I like/want. How am I able to be so succesful without being a whale? Why isn't the game rigged against me, like it supposedly is for you?

[FireHtz]

Originally posted by Skunkster94:

I don't know if anyone else is going through this, however the matchmaking seems completely targeted toward one player or another (leaning heavily one way). Meaning the game can be seen as win or lost right upon opening hand. I've gone days now with now with only a few wins compared to 2 weeks ago where I was finding too easy for the daily wins. The biggest thing that I've been seeing these past few days are whatever deck i chose to play in any format is just answers for anything and everything played. Last night I was playing with black blue mill to get a daily and every deck I played against was 250 cards, only time I've seen these decks is playing mill, another issue I've had is mono colored decks running anti mill. Playing against mono black and they have a random Gaea's blessing? No green mana in the deck could've been produced so it was a dead draw if they had it in hand. This is not a secluded thing either. I've gone as far as removing a few cards and replacing them then its a whole new type of answers I'm facing. I've removed targeted removal in a deck and replaced it with counter spells (Don't usually run counters) however instead of not being able target my opponents things I now can't counter the spells. During these times I find it hard to play because I personally feel the game is holding its hands out for my wallet, I noticed win streaks after i spend money or when i haven't spent any money on the game in roughly a month. The last part has happened to me personally often enough I can start to call out these win-loss streaks in house now.

Welcome to mtg arena brotha, where nothing is truly "random". lol

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by FireHtz:

Originally posted by Skunkster94:

I don't know if anyone else is going through this, however the matchmaking seems completely targeted toward one player or another (leaning heavily one way). Meaning the game can be seen as win or lost right upon opening hand. I've gone days now with now with only a few wins compared to 2 weeks ago where I was finding too easy for the daily wins. The biggest thing that I've been seeing these past few days are whatever deck i chose to play in any format is just answers for anything and everything played. Last night I was playing with black blue mill to get a daily and every deck I played against was 250 cards, only time I've seen these decks is playing mill, another issue I've had is mono colored decks running anti mill. Playing against mono black and they have a random Gaea's blessing? No green mana in the deck could've been produced so it was a dead draw if they had it in hand. This is not a secluded thing either. I've gone as far as removing a few cards and replacing them then its a whole new type of answers I'm facing. I've removed targeted removal in a deck and replaced it with counter spells (Don't usually run counters) however instead of not being able target my opponents things I now can't counter the spells. During these times I find it hard to play because I personally feel the game is holding its hands out for my wallet, I noticed win streaks after i spend money or when i haven't spent any money on the game in roughly a month. The last part has happened to me personally often enough I can start to call out these win-loss streaks in house now.

Welcome to mtg arena brotha, where nothing is truly "random". lol

It is impossible for a computer to be "truly random."

Originally posted by Skunkster94:

I don't know if anyone else is going through this, however the matchmaking seems completely targeted toward one player or another (leaning heavily one way). Meaning the game can be seen as win or lost right upon opening hand. I've gone days now with now with only a few wins compared to 2 weeks ago where I was finding too easy for the daily wins. The biggest thing that I've been seeing these past few days are whatever deck i chose to play in any format is just answers for anything and everything played. Last night I was playing with black blue mill to get a daily and every deck I played against was 250 cards, only time I've seen these decks is playing mill, another issue I've had is mono colored decks running anti mill. Playing against mono black and they have a random Gaea's blessing? No green mana in the deck could've been produced so it was a dead draw if they had it in hand. This is not a secluded thing either. I've gone as far as removing a few cards and replacing them then its a whole new type of answers I'm facing. I've removed targeted removal in a deck and replaced it with counter spells (Don't usually run counters) however instead of not being able target my opponents things I now can't counter the spells. During these times I find it hard to play because I personally feel the game is holding its hands out for my wallet, I noticed win streaks after i spend money or when i haven't spent any money on the game in roughly a month. The last part has happened to me personally often enough I can start to call out these win-loss streaks in house now.

Proof or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by Serkian:

The MM of this game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shameful how rigged this is, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shame what those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ devs do with this game honestly, you play a deck and you always get the direct counter in casual against people who use cards with skins even Their asses for putting 500 euros into the game every month, the game and its devs are disgusting.

It's not rigged. You are only mad that you lost.

[Skunkster94]

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

Originally posted by FireHtz:

Welcome to mtg arena brotha, where nothing is truly "random". lol

It is impossible for a computer to be "truly random."

Originally posted by Skunkster94:

I don't know if anyone else is going through this, however the matchmaking seems completely targeted toward one player or another (leaning heavily one way). Meaning the game can be seen as win or lost right upon opening hand. I've gone days now with now with only a few wins compared to 2 weeks ago where I was finding too easy for the daily wins. The biggest thing that I've been seeing these past few days are whatever deck i chose to play in any format is just answers for anything and everything played. Last night I was playing with black blue mill to get a daily and every deck I played against was 250 cards, only time I've seen these decks is playing mill, another issue I've had is mono colored decks running anti mill. Playing against mono black and they have a random Gaea's blessing? No green mana in the deck could've been produced so it was a dead draw if they had it in hand. This is not a secluded thing either. I've gone as far as removing a few cards and replacing them then its a whole new type of answers I'm facing. I've removed targeted removal in a deck and replaced it with counter spells (Don't usually run counters) however instead of not being able target my opponents things I now can't counter the spells. During these times I find it hard to play because I personally feel the game is holding its hands out for my wallet, I noticed win streaks after i spend money or when i haven't spent any money on the game in roughly a month. The last part has happened to me personally often enough I can start to call out these win-loss streaks in house now.

Proof or it didn't happen.

What kind of proof would you like? The matchmaking pitting me against higher ranked player by at least a rank or two? The feeling as though its leaning harder one way favoring a player more often then not? The money grabbing aspect? Honestly I was more so looking for others opinions. Sounds like you're as salty as me into the comments as you are lol

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by Skunkster94:

What kind of proof would you like? The matchmaking pitting me against higher ranked player by at least a rank or two? The feeling as though its leaning harder one way favoring a player more often then not? The money grabbing aspect? Honestly I was more so looking for others opinions. Sounds like you're as salty as me into the comments as you are lol

Rank means nothing between bronze and Platinum. (♥♥♥♥, it honestly doesn't mean anything really, even at mythic)

Matchmaking puts you with a random opponent (in ranked, within a tolerance of x ranks and determined by your distance). Games are often won or lost on opening hands. That is a thing that happens in the game. Make sure to mulligan properly. Player error.

If you haven't been winning for "weeks," its because your deck is likely too fragile for the format. Playing Jank and blaming the matchmaking system is a hard cope. Player error.

I occasionally see those trash 250 card decks. Those decks are REALLY BAD. You lost to a literal stack of garbage because you wanted to play an unconventional win condition. That is the risk you take when you play subpar cards and strategies. Player error.

You played mill in a format that Gaea's Blessing is legal? LOL Player error.

There are a lot of cards that play around counter spells, like Cavern of Souls for instance. You only noticed them when you tried to do it. Player error.

Just don't buy anything? Not a hard concept. Consumer error.

No one is salty but you for being asked for proof of your false claim.

[Skunkster94]

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

Originally posted by Skunkster94:

What kind of proof would you like? The matchmaking pitting me against higher ranked player by at least a rank or two? The feeling as though its leaning harder one way favoring a player more often then not? The money grabbing aspect? Honestly I was more so looking for others opinions. Sounds like you're as salty as me into the comments as you are lol

Rank means nothing between bronze and Platinum. (♥♥♥♥, it honestly doesn't mean anything really, even at mythic)

Matchmaking puts you with a random opponent (in ranked, within a tolerance of x ranks and determined by your distance). Games are often won or lost on opening hands. That is a thing that happens in the game. Make sure to mulligan properly. Player error.

If you haven't been winning for "weeks," its because your deck is likely too fragile for the format. Playing Jank and blaming the matchmaking system is a hard cope. Player error.

I occasionally see those trash 250 card decks. Those decks are REALLY BAD. You lost to a literal stack of garbage because you wanted to play an unconventional win condition. That is the risk you take when you play subpar cards and strategies. Player error.

You played mill in a format that Gaea's Blessing is legal? LOL Player error.

There are a lot of cards that play around counter spells, like Cavern of Souls for instance. You only noticed them when you tried to do it. Player error.

Just don't buy anything? Not a hard concept. Consumer error.

No one is salty but you for being asked for proof of your false claim.

At this point is sounds like you already have the answers lol glad everything in your eyes is player error which is insane. . You're here seemingly for attention which is fine. I'm going to move past ya and either let this die or reply to someone else. So good luck to ya cause I'm not going to go in circles

[BunnyBunny]

When you craft a new original deck (usually to face the meta you perceive), arena will make you face deck that are similar to your in order to gauge the power level of your deck. After that Arena will put you against meta deck and those games can be considered genuine in term of matchmaking. But after Arena figured your deck's strength and weakness, your matchmaking will be completely rigged to 50/50, meaning if you have a win streak, you will have a lose streak where you face the most dumb combination of cards absolutely ill suited against the meta but that somehow perfectly counter your deck in the most ridiculous way.

This is how it is or it's just cognition biais...

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by Skunkster94:

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

Rank means nothing between bronze and Platinum. (♥♥♥♥, it honestly doesn't mean anything really, even at mythic)

Matchmaking puts you with a random opponent (in ranked, within a tolerance of x ranks and determined by your distance). Games are often won or lost on opening hands. That is a thing that happens in the game. Make sure to mulligan properly. Player error.

If you haven't been winning for "weeks," its because your deck is likely too fragile for the format. Playing Jank and blaming the matchmaking system is a hard cope. Player error.

I occasionally see those trash 250 card decks. Those decks are REALLY BAD. You lost to a literal stack of garbage because you wanted to play an unconventional win condition. That is the risk you take when you play subpar cards and strategies. Player error.

You played mill in a format that Gaea's Blessing is legal? LOL Player error.

There are a lot of cards that play around counter spells, like Cavern of Souls for instance. You only noticed them when you tried to do it. Player error.

Just don't buy anything? Not a hard concept. Consumer error.

No one is salty but you for being asked for proof of your false claim.

At this point is sounds like you already have the answers lol glad everything in your eyes is player error which is insane. . You're here seemingly for attention which is fine. I'm going to move past ya and either let this die or reply to someone else. So good luck to ya cause I'm not going to go in circles

lmfao

Originally posted by BunnyBunny:

When you craft a new original deck (usually to face the meta you perceive), arena will make you face deck that are similar to your in order to gauge the power level of your deck. After that Arena will put you against meta deck and those games can be considered genuine in term of matchmaking. But after Arena figured your deck's strength and weakness, your matchmaking will be completely rigged to 50/50, meaning if you have a win streak, you will have a lose streak where you face the most dumb combination of cards absolutely ill suited against the meta but that somehow perfectly counter your deck in the most ridiculous way.

This is how it is or it's just cognition biais...

This isn't even close to how matchmaking works.

[Skunkster94]

Originally posted by BunnyBunny:

When you craft a new original deck (usually to face the meta you perceive), arena will make you face deck that are similar to your in order to gauge the power level of your deck. After that Arena will put you against meta deck and those games can be considered genuine in term of matchmaking. But after Arena figured your deck's strength and weakness, your matchmaking will be completely rigged to 50/50, meaning if you have a win streak, you will have a lose streak where you face the most dumb combination of cards absolutely ill suited against the meta but that somehow perfectly counter your deck in the most ridiculous way.

This is how it is or it's just cognition biais...

Ok this would actually make a bit more sense. I just don't like the fact that in a ranked setting, your rank doesn't seem to matter. I've got a few decks varying in both play styles and power levels. However, there should be no reason that when I get to platinum rank that i'm matched against bronze repetitively. Whether they win or lose how does this seem fun or even fair for anyone? Until last night haven't seen a single bronze then I hit platinum then I'm seeing them every other match then an actual platinum player like every 4 game. While Bronze all i seemed to play was gold and platinum. I just don't like the switch up. I believe the ranks should determine a large part in the rank you should play against.

As for the answer draws or decks this would make a bit more sense with the win loss streak concept in mind. It seems as though that's the case. It's just lame that in order to get anywhere in the ranked system now I've gotta beat up on bronze players who don't have an actual deck crafted for themselves or so it seems. In the end for those player whats the incentive to keep playing ranked? Wouldn't you think you'd lose more people the not in the long run?

[Nec]

Originally posted by BunnyBunny:

When you craft a new original deck (usually to face the meta you perceive), arena will make you face deck that are similar to your in order to gauge the power level of your deck. After that Arena will put you against meta deck and those games can be considered genuine in term of matchmaking. But after Arena figured your deck's strength and weakness, your matchmaking will be completely rigged to 50/50, meaning if you have a win streak, you will have a lose streak where you face the most dumb combination of cards absolutely ill suited against the meta but that somehow perfectly counter your deck in the most ridiculous way.

This is how it is or it's just cognition biais...

lol, that is certainly a lot of information only you seem to have.

[BEEN]

Another post that follows the usual pattern:
Me win- I gud
Me lose- Arena rigged!