Most rigged game of all card games

[Reaper86]

Most rigged game of all card games

[Malvastor]

Let me guess, you've only played one card game?

[SquidGrow on ETH]

it could be worse, you could be losing money in poker even with the most sophisticated rng photon system in the world: https://youtu.be/7us71qGkr_E?si=-L4TxOuKUYSFUsNd&t=84

even with this setup, you can run into what is known as 'bad variance'
if you can successfully identify the slump, you win by not playing at all.

[Kurt Angle's Neck]

Clearly you've never played '52 Pickup...

[BEEN]

Me lose- game iz rigged
Me win- I is guud

[SonOfKrypton]

why?

[mwesthoff]

Haven't you heard? WotC countered the rigging claim by admitting to it after being caught.

Being caught and admitting to it makes it all go away.

[Ha 何豪源]

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Let me guess, you've only played one card game?

is there any more rigged card game like this? please show me links or proofs for otherwise, because there are enough accusations up to straight up lies (hidden matchmaking update, where people complained about a change and then wotc confirmed it weeks later to weird topdeckings in brawl decks as stated by other streamers) to make this as contender for top rigged card game (even if you exclude the lies)

dont come with poker, its heavily regulated in real life and online and there are enough different softwares and providers. except you want to attack poker as whole card game. then we can attack mtg too as whole (from their ****ups in pro tours to the worst of disgrace called magic duels etc.)

edit: doing dailies (brawl) now, and the odds for some draws are like literally winning in the lottery (for me and against me). thats just ridiculous with 100 cards

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Let me guess, you've only played one card game?

is there any more rigged card game like this? please show me links or proofs for otherwise,

There's loads of card games that players endlessly whine about alleged 'rigging'. Usually providing about as much evidence as they do for MTG, i.e. none.

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

because there are enough accusations up to straight up lies (hidden matchmaking update, where people complained about a change and then wotc confirmed it weeks later to weird topdeckings in brawl decks as stated by other streamers) to make this as contender for top rigged card game (even if you exclude the lies)

Feel free to provide your links so I can see what exactly you're misinterpreting this time.

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

dont come with poker, its heavily regulated in real life and online and there are enough different softwares and providers. except you want to attack poker as whole card game. then we can attack mtg too as whole (from their ****ups in pro tours to the worst of disgrace called magic duels etc.)

Good thing I didn't mention Poker; that was someone else (I know, I know, we all look alike).

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

edit: doing dailies (brawl) now, and the odds for some draws are like literally winning in the lottery (for me and against me). thats just ridiculous with 100 cards

That's... exactly what you should expect. Sometimes you get a great hand, sometimes your opponent does, sometimes neither of you.

[Ha 何豪源]

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

is there any more rigged card game like this? please show me links or proofs for otherwise,

There's loads of card games that players endlessly whine about alleged 'rigging'. Usually providing about as much evidence as they do for MTG, i.e. none.

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

because there are enough accusations up to straight up lies (hidden matchmaking update, where people complained about a change and then wotc confirmed it weeks later to weird topdeckings in brawl decks as stated by other streamers) to make this as contender for top rigged card game (even if you exclude the lies)

Feel free to provide your links so I can see what exactly you're misinterpreting this time.

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

dont come with poker, its heavily regulated in real life and online and there are enough different softwares and providers. except you want to attack poker as whole card game. then we can attack mtg too as whole (from their ****ups in pro tours to the worst of disgrace called magic duels etc.)

Good thing I didn't mention Poker; that was someone else (I know, I know, we all look alike).

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

edit: doing dailies (brawl) now, and the odds for some draws are like literally winning in the lottery (for me and against me). thats just ridiculous with 100 cards

That's... exactly what you should expect. Sometimes you get a great hand, sometimes your opponent does, sometimes neither of you.

1) dude, name me 1 game!!! if theres no accusations in other games, then this is the most rigged one as it is the most controversial one for sure (due to the amount of accusations etc.)

2) https://dotesports.com/mtg/news/wotc-to-address-major-mtg-arena-bug-affecting-matchmaking and the reply from wotc, that the bug was ON PURPOSE AND HIDDEN/IN SECRET!!!!! what a scumbag move

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/mtg-arena-announcements-june-3-2024

3) i know, but it was also for the others (and the 1-2 who mentioned poker afterwards)

4) wow, that its literally always perfect draws (topdecking x times in a 100 card deck), which i rarely see in like several tournaments. i cant believe it happens so often in so few games. but thanks for confirming the rigged odds

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

Originally posted by Malvastor:

There's loads of card games that players endlessly whine about alleged 'rigging'. Usually providing about as much evidence as they do for MTG, i.e. none.



Feel free to provide your links so I can see what exactly you're misinterpreting this time.



Good thing I didn't mention Poker; that was someone else (I know, I know, we all look alike).



That's... exactly what you should expect. Sometimes you get a great hand, sometimes your opponent does, sometimes neither of you.

1) dude, name me 1 game!!! if theres no accusations in other games, then this is the most rigged one as it is the most controversial one for sure (due to the amount of accusations etc.)

Spellstone.

Though I should point out that "number of accusations" proves absolutely jack about whether any of those accusations are valid or not.

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

2) https://dotesports.com/mtg/news/wotc-to-address-major-mtg-arena-bug-affecting-matchmaking and the reply from wotc, that the bug was ON PURPOSE AND HIDDEN/IN SECRET!!!!! what a scumbag move

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/mtg-arena-announcements-june-3-2024

Thanks for posting a link that confirms that, as usual, your accusations have little to no connection to reality. A bug showed backend matchmaking data, and Wizards said "we're patching the bug and editing the data".

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

4) wow, that its literally always perfect draws (topdecking x times in a 100 card deck), which i rarely see in like several tournaments. i cant believe it happens so often in so few games. but thanks for confirming the rigged odds

Is it "sometimes like winning the lottery" or "literally always perfect"? Make up your mind.

[JackieDaytona]

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Let me guess, you've only played one card game?

do you seriously not see the pattern ? you cant honestly tell me you don't know about the mana algo throttling lol

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by JackieDaytona:

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Let me guess, you've only played one card game?

do you seriously not see the pattern ? you cant honestly tell me you don't know about the mana algo throttling lol

I know about people making claims about it. I've seen nothing to make me believe there's actually anything being rigged or manipulated there. And, when pressed, the people making those claims can never present actual evidence beyond a story about an improbable streak they had.

[Murphus]

if u can win 50/50 of the time youre doing fine.

[black]

Originally posted by Murphus:

if u can win 50/50 of the time youre doing fine.

not you are doing fine, they are rigging your game in the background. any deck can win 50/50 because the enemy is gimped by mana flood or starve.

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by black:

Originally posted by Murphus:

if u can win 50/50 of the time youre doing fine.

not you are doing fine, they are rigging your game in the background. any deck can win 50/50 because the enemy is gimped by mana flood or starve.

That's absolutely false. Look at the winrates for decks in Standard paper events: https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/winrates

The top decks (out of the ones with a meaningful number of matches; I'm leaving out the ones that got an 80% winrate cause they played 5 games and won 4) have winrates that max out at like ~60%. Most are somewhere in the 50% range. Past that you have a whole bunch that fall somewhere in the 40s and then a few that plummet to the 20-30% range.

Which is exactly what you'd expect of a game that has extremely high complexity and variability, and a major luck factor, and where each match typically has one winner and one loser. No matter how good your deck is, someone out there is running something that will dismantle it.

So given that there's no floor for winrates- it's perfectly possible to make a 0% deck- 50% is indeed doing just fine.