Stupid people with black cards

[Black Mirror]

Like seriously, can I play vs something different than stupid black, or mixed with black discard decks? Just played 4 games, all 4 vs this discard crap, its not even funny anymore.
Get a life, and learn how to play the game isntead of trying to piss of your opponent.
Won 3 out of those 4 so go to hell with your stupid discard decks morons.

[Free Palestine]

Publicado originalmente por Black Mirror:

Publicado originalmente por Jason:

Is there a colour or deck type people don't complain about?

Black has to much removal with all current serts and from what I saw it will get even more in bloomburrow, this is madness.

Who cares?

[Minmataro]

Its the match making that has you tilted not "black cards". Every color has its own strengths and weaknesses. However in arena things are amplified because they push best of one on newbs and thats where matchmaking forces u to play either similar decks or counters to your deck.

Ask a player who plays mostly green what they see normally. its usually a ramp deck, a mirror deck or something with all the creature removal in the world. Move to ranked play, best of 3 and this goes away.

[Black Mirror]

Publicado originalmente por Minmataro:

Its the match making that has you tilted not "black cards". Every color has its own strengths and weaknesses. However in arena things are amplified because they push best of one on newbs and thats where matchmaking forces u to play either similar decks or counters to your deck.

Ask a player who plays mostly green what they see normally. its usually a ramp deck, a mirror deck or something with all the creature removal in the world. Move to ranked play, best of 3 and this goes away.

Some youtubers started putting out videos with Phyrexian Obliterator and Tail Swipe so now today I alredy played like 4 of that + standard black cards like Sheoldred, the Apocalypse + tons of deep cavern bats. Insanity continues, its even worse cause I don't have the answer for tail swipe and obliberator, this is such a stupid combo. Obviously all black + green sometimes, all hail the matchmaking. This can't get more stupid, over 3k cards and all you see is black turds that wont flush.

[DaylightDemon]

Publicado originalmente por PJ:

You won 3 out of 4 games and you're salty.

well, probably bc getting discarded is the most unfun sh*t ever and yet it seems ppl just love to make ppl suffer.

[Terran Ghost]

Publicado originalmente por DaylightDemon:

Publicado originalmente por PJ:

You won 3 out of 4 games and you're salty.

well, probably bc getting discarded is the most unfun sh*t ever and yet it seems ppl just love to make ppl suffer.

If you are playing against discard you should play your stuff as fast as you can.

[Free Palestine]

Publicado originalmente por Minmataro:

Its the match making that has you tilted not "black cards". Every color has its own strengths and weaknesses. However in arena things are amplified because they push best of one on newbs and thats where matchmaking forces u to play either similar decks or counters to your deck.

Ask a player who plays mostly green what they see normally. its usually a ramp deck, a mirror deck or something with all the creature removal in the world. Move to ranked play, best of 3 and this goes away.

This.

[Free Palestine]

Publicado originalmente por Black Mirror:

Publicado originalmente por Minmataro:

Its the match making that has you tilted not "black cards". Every color has its own strengths and weaknesses. However in arena things are amplified because they push best of one on newbs and thats where matchmaking forces u to play either similar decks or counters to your deck.

Ask a player who plays mostly green what they see normally. its usually a ramp deck, a mirror deck or something with all the creature removal in the world. Move to ranked play, best of 3 and this goes away.

Some youtubers started putting out videos with Phyrexian Obliterator and Tail Swipe so now today I alredy played like 4 of that + standard black cards like Sheoldred, the Apocalypse + tons of deep cavern bats. Insanity continues, its even worse cause I don't have the answer for tail swipe and obliberator, this is such a stupid combo. Obviously all black + green sometimes, all hail the matchmaking. This can't get more stupid, over 3k cards and all you see is black turds that wont flush.

There are ways to beat this nonsense. Listen, make your deck have 12 removal spells, either bounce, kill, paralyze, etc. Or mass wipe. If you have those, you're fine. You can whine about the cards or play them. It's been like this since the 90s. It's just how it is. It's not Chess. It's Magic.

The only thing to be angry about is the rigged MM. But since this game doesn't care if you quit a match, just keep quitting matches until you play against what you want or go first. It literally doesn't matter.

12 removal spells. No more. No less. Unless it's creatureless, which wins a lot. B/W planewalker spam wins.

[BobbyRunout]

A lot of people are gonna netdeck, it's just the nature of the game, if you don't like it you're better off playing a game that relies more heavily on real-time execution skill, which can't be copied off the internet

[Black Mirror]

Publicado originalmente por wly_cdgr:

A lot of people are gonna netdeck, it's just the nature of the game, if you don't like it you're better off playing a game that relies more heavily on real-time execution skill, which can't be copied off the internet

Net decking is like a half of the problem, the other half being the cards that allow like one turn win if you don't have an answer, and you can't really make deck that will have answer for everything.
If the game was more generous with wild cards or card rewards maybe there would be less net decking. I would like to build some more decks, but its really hard to spend limited resources on something that may not work.

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Publicado originalmente por Black Mirror:

Publicado originalmente por wly_cdgr:

A lot of people are gonna netdeck, it's just the nature of the game, if you don't like it you're better off playing a game that relies more heavily on real-time execution skill, which can't be copied off the internet

Net decking is like a half of the problem, the other half being the cards that allow like one turn win if you don't have an answer, and you can't really make deck that will have answer for everything.
If the game was more generous with wild cards or card rewards maybe there would be less net decking. I would like to build some more decks, but its really hard to spend limited resources on something that may not work.

A. Netdecking has been around since before the internet was even popular. Fun fact: As strong as the decks may be, it works as a double edged sword, since an EXPERIENCED player will also know the deck and how to properly play against it

B. There are no 1 turn wins. You allowed your opponent to build a winning board state. You have 4-5 turns MINIMUM. Learn how to Mulligan if you have a bad hand.

C. There would not be "less netdecking" if the game was more generous with cards. It would almost certainly be more prevalent.

D. Run more interaction. Spend those "precious resources" on cards that will actually help you, rather than random jank.

Publicado originalmente por Press:

Publicado originalmente por Black Mirror:

Some youtubers started putting out videos with Phyrexian Obliterator and Tail Swipe so now today I alredy played like 4 of that + standard black cards like Sheoldred, the Apocalypse + tons of deep cavern bats. Insanity continues, its even worse cause I don't have the answer for tail swipe and obliberator, this is such a stupid combo. Obviously all black + green sometimes, all hail the matchmaking. This can't get more stupid, over 3k cards and all you see is black turds that wont flush.

There are ways to beat this nonsense. Listen, make your deck have 12 removal spells, either bounce, kill, paralyze, etc. Or mass wipe. If you have those, you're fine. You can whine about the cards or play them. It's been like this since the 90s. It's just how it is. It's not Chess. It's Magic.

The only thing to be angry about is the rigged MM. But since this game doesn't care if you quit a match, just keep quitting matches until you play against what you want or go first. It literally doesn't matter.

12 removal spells. No more. No less. Unless it's creatureless, which wins a lot. B/W planewalker spam wins.

"rigged MM" =/= purposely losing matches because you are salty

This deck building advice is also incredibly laughable.

[Black Mirror]

11 games played and only 2 were without black discard/removal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This is getting insane by now. over 3k cards and all they play is black sometimes with a splash of something else, at this point is hard to believe that whole playerbase is playing black nonsense, so the mathchmaking is doing that on purpose for some reason.

[Free Palestine]

Publicado originalmente por Black Mirror:

11 games played and only 2 were without black discard/removal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This is getting insane by now. over 3k cards and all they play is black sometimes with a splash of something else, at this point is hard to believe that whole playerbase is playing black nonsense, so the mathchmaking is doing that on purpose for some reason.

Play a different deck and you will get different matchups. The game knows your deck is weak against black, so it's trying to slow you down.

[Free Palestine]

Publicado originalmente por Black Mirror:

11 games played and only 2 were without black discard/removal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This is getting insane by now. over 3k cards and all they play is black sometimes with a splash of something else, at this point is hard to believe that whole playerbase is playing black nonsense, so the mathchmaking is doing that on purpose for some reason.

Besides, it shouldn't matter what color you play if you run 12 removal spells yourself. 12. Like I said.

[Black Mirror]

Publicado originalmente por Press:

Publicado originalmente por Black Mirror:

11 games played and only 2 were without black discard/removal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This is getting insane by now. over 3k cards and all they play is black sometimes with a splash of something else, at this point is hard to believe that whole playerbase is playing black nonsense, so the mathchmaking is doing that on purpose for some reason.

Besides, it shouldn't matter what color you play if you run 12 removal spells yourself. 12. Like I said.

You can't play decks that care about number of creatures in the graveyard then, cause you have very small amount of creatures if you put 16 lands + 12 removal spells and 4 win condition spells, beside the fact that I want to mill most of the things ASAP, there is not much room for removal. You can add some stuff that has adventure dmg spells and play as needed, but its still far from optimal, not to mention I don't have much of those cards anyway. THe deck is supposed to do the thing and it works most of the time, the fact that matchmaking is stupid af is another story.

[GoddessofEternity]

So what's in your deck then? That pairs you up against all these crazy cards?