Ranked play - rigged

[Loracs]

deck with 30 lands (50% total). Land starved for 15 games in a row!!! possible? not in a random world. In MTG arena... look like it is HIGHLY probable.

Basically, you pay or you loose. simple marketing. Wonder why there is a free mode. Most be for the moron like me.

[mwesthoff]

Be true to yourself, it's a skill issue.

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by 滅 PUNISHED FRIDGE:

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

This sounds like a gripe rather than an actual valid criticism. The land system is the entire core of magic. If you don't like it, Yu-gi-oh exists. This game requires you to pay costs for cards, a simple matter of fact. The accusation that the play/draw system is somehow "unbalanced" is also pretty absurd.


lol you believe this? Oh brother

yOu bEliEve tHis it's right in front of your face stop glazing this stupid company

lmfao

[ChaffyExpert]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

they admitted that they rig the matchmaking (bronze can meet mythics anytime, or when you win too often you get one of the top players to prevent you from winning a draft), so they probably rig the shuffler too

No they didn't, bronze can meet mythics anytime? Source? Aside from maybe some bizarre situation where there isn't enough players, i highly doubt this happens AT ALL much less as frequent as you pretend it does.

[Ha 何豪源]

Originally posted by ChaffyExpert:

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

they admitted that they rig the matchmaking (bronze can meet mythics anytime, or when you win too often you get one of the top players to prevent you from winning a draft), so they probably rig the shuffler too

No they didn't, bronze can meet mythics anytime? Source? Aside from maybe some bizarre situation where there isn't enough players, i highly doubt this happens AT ALL much less as frequent as you pretend it does.

doesnt matter if it happens once or 100 times, IT HAPPENS and AT ANYTIME and there was no intention to fix it from wotc side.

google it, engough proofs on the internet and on youtube. at least im not taking my OWN experience as ultimative proof like others here

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

Originally posted by ChaffyExpert:

No they didn't, bronze can meet mythics anytime? Source? Aside from maybe some bizarre situation where there isn't enough players, i highly doubt this happens AT ALL much less as frequent as you pretend it does.

doesnt matter if it happens once or 100 times, IT HAPPENS and AT ANYTIME and there was no intention to fix it from wotc side.

google it, engough proofs on the internet and on youtube. at least im not taking my OWN experience as ultimative proof like others here

considering no one takes your "proof" seriously (since there is none), this statement is outright false.

[Ha 何豪源]

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

doesnt matter if it happens once or 100 times, IT HAPPENS and AT ANYTIME and there was no intention to fix it from wotc side.

google it, engough proofs on the internet and on youtube. at least im not taking my OWN experience as ultimative proof like others here

considering no one takes your "proof" seriously (since there is none), this statement is outright false.

its funny that your post claiming that my evidences are wrong all the time, gets deleted nonstop from the mods here and doesnt stay for long usually. are you a troll or what?

https://www.google.com/search?q=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&sca_esv=53ccd5999cd137e6&udm=2&biw=2139&bih=1043&ei=DkSNZpisLYWIxc8P7cql-A4&ved=0ahUKEwiY6-fdkJqHAxUFRPEDHW1lCe8Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJ2Jyb256ZSBwbGF5ZXIgcGFpcmVkIG15dGhpYyBtYWdpYyBhcmVuYUixO1CBMljpOnABeACQAQCYAU-gAdIHqgECMTO4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCIBgGSBwCgB8kE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

you EVEN attacked me when i just quoted WOTC (thus one of your latest postings with the same content got deleted) - ive reported you this time on my own. you are just attacking me with the same posting since several topics. i didnt care, but you are actually providing nothing to the discussions at all (u never explain anything with ur postings)

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

considering no one takes your "proof" seriously (since there is none), this statement is outright false.

its funny that your post claiming that my evidences are wrong all the time, gets deleted nonstop from the mods here and doesnt stay for long usually. are you a troll or what?

https://www.google.com/search?q=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&sca_esv=53ccd5999cd137e6&udm=2&biw=2139&bih=1043&ei=DkSNZpisLYWIxc8P7cql-A4&ved=0ahUKEwiY6-fdkJqHAxUFRPEDHW1lCe8Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJ2Jyb256ZSBwbGF5ZXIgcGFpcmVkIG15dGhpYyBtYWdpYyBhcmVuYUixO1CBMljpOnABeACQAQCYAU-gAdIHqgECMTO4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCIBgGSBwCgB8kE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

you EVEN attacked me when i just quoted WOTC (thus one of your latest postings with the same content got deleted) - ive reported you this time on my own. you are just attacking me with the same posting since several topics. i didnt care, but you are actually providing nothing to the discussions at all (u never explain anything with ur postings)

This is the first and only time you have posted anything of substance. All of your other posts have been complaining about some inane thing or another.

There is no explanation needed when pointing out unsubstantiated claims. Calling them such because the user refuses to post reputable sources isn't an attack on them, it is holding them accountable for their (MOSTLY false) claims.

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

its funny that your post claiming that my evidences are wrong all the time, gets deleted nonstop from the mods here and doesnt stay for long usually. are you a troll or what?

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

doesnt matter if it happens once or 100 times, IT HAPPENS and AT ANYTIME and there was no intention to fix it from wotc side.

google it, engough proofs on the internet and on youtube. at least im not taking my OWN experience as ultimative proof like others here

considering no one takes your "proof" seriously (since there is none), this statement is outright false.

What are you talking about? It is right here. Not to mention, this is the first time you have ever posted anything even close to being considered true.

[Ha 何豪源]

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

its funny that your post claiming that my evidences are wrong all the time, gets deleted nonstop from the mods here and doesnt stay for long usually. are you a troll or what?

https://www.google.com/search?q=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&sca_esv=53ccd5999cd137e6&udm=2&biw=2139&bih=1043&ei=DkSNZpisLYWIxc8P7cql-A4&ved=0ahUKEwiY6-fdkJqHAxUFRPEDHW1lCe8Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJ2Jyb256ZSBwbGF5ZXIgcGFpcmVkIG15dGhpYyBtYWdpYyBhcmVuYUixO1CBMljpOnABeACQAQCYAU-gAdIHqgECMTO4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCIBgGSBwCgB8kE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

you EVEN attacked me when i just quoted WOTC (thus one of your latest postings with the same content got deleted) - ive reported you this time on my own. you are just attacking me with the same posting since several topics. i didnt care, but you are actually providing nothing to the discussions at all (u never explain anything with ur postings)

This is the first and only time you have posted anything of substance. All of your other posts have been complaining about some inane thing or another.

There is no explanation needed when pointing out unsubstantiated claims. Calling them such because the user refuses to post reputable sources isn't an attack on them, it is holding them accountable for their (MOSTLY false) claims.

are you kidding me - you attacked me with that SAME QUOTE when i quoted a wotc statement, you attacked me with that SAME QUOTE when i mentioned that pros cheated on the pro tour (where enough clips and streams can prove my statements) ...

i replied to that SAME QUOTE in the other topics and our comments both got deleted (probably bc my comment was chained with yours)

either you are really a troll or have a short-term memory

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

This is the first and only time you have posted anything of substance. All of your other posts have been complaining about some inane thing or another.

There is no explanation needed when pointing out unsubstantiated claims. Calling them such because the user refuses to post reputable sources isn't an attack on them, it is holding them accountable for their (MOSTLY false) claims.

are you kidding me - you attacked me with that SAME QUOTE when i quoted a wotc statement, you attacked me with that SAME QUOTE when i mentioned that pros cheated on the pro tour (where enough clips and streams can prove my statements) ...

i replied to that SAME QUOTE in the other topics and our comments both got deleted (probably bc my comment was chained with yours)

either you are really a troll or have a short-term memory

You are a serial complainer on this forum. Excuse me if I don't remember every single one of the slights against you that you have imagined.

[ChaffyExpert]

Originally posted by Mr. Awesome:

Originally posted by Loracs:

deck with 30 lands (50% total). Land starved for 15 games in a row!!! possible? not in a random world. In MTG arena... look like it is HIGHLY probable.

Basically, you pay or you loose. simple marketing. Wonder why there is a free mode. Most be for the moron like me.

Hackers can control your card pull as well as their own.

Assuming they can do that, it's still more likely that 1. bad luck, or 2. you didn't build your deck well.

[ChaffyExpert]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

Originally posted by ChaffyExpert:

No they didn't, bronze can meet mythics anytime? Source? Aside from maybe some bizarre situation where there isn't enough players, i highly doubt this happens AT ALL much less as frequent as you pretend it does.

doesnt matter if it happens once or 100 times, IT HAPPENS and AT ANYTIME and there was no intention to fix it from wotc side.

google it, engough proofs on the internet and on youtube. at least im not taking my OWN experience as ultimative proof like others here

It's not my job to google evidence for your claim, and i don't see how it *can* happen means it's rigged.

I have yet to see anything like that happen personally, like i don't think I at diamond rank have ever been against a bronze player, but the reason it *could* happen is WOTC prioritizes fast matches, if they can't find a match within a certain league, the requirements loosen.

I've been matched, at diamond rank, against Mythics with meta decks. Do i complain about the game being rigged? No, they are Mythic because of net decking and having enough skill to use it correctly, and i don't care because i'm not really expecting to win against broken cards no matter how well i play or how well built the deck is.

And my experience is ABSOLUTELY evidence against a claim.

Like if you say the sky is pink with purple polka-dots, and i note that i've never seen that, then there is no reason to believe your claim. ESPECIALLY if others collaborate it.

Also, i didn't use the fallacy of saying "ive never seen X in my personal experience therefore it doesn't exist.", because yes, if i said "there is no such thing as murder because i've never seen someone murdered" despite all the evidence contrary, that's obviously wrong and a fallacy, however

I DIDN'T say that, i said "in my personal experience i've never seen a hacker" or "i've never seen bronze meet mythic". I did not say "because i've never seen it, it doesn't exist."

The former is just stating my personal experience and observation, the latter is is using my personal experience to say something never happens.


If someone says "there are hackers everywhere!" my personal experience of never seeing a hacker is certainly evidence against said claim, especially since said claim has no proof. And especially when others say they have the same experience.

[ChaffyExpert]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

Originally posted by The_Dybbuk_King:

considering no one takes your "proof" seriously (since there is none), this statement is outright false.

its funny that your post claiming that my evidences are wrong all the time, gets deleted nonstop from the mods here and doesnt stay for long usually. are you a troll or what?

https://www.google.com/search?q=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&sca_esv=53ccd5999cd137e6&udm=2&biw=2139&bih=1043&ei=DkSNZpisLYWIxc8P7cql-A4&ved=0ahUKEwiY6-fdkJqHAxUFRPEDHW1lCe8Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJ2Jyb256ZSBwbGF5ZXIgcGFpcmVkIG15dGhpYyBtYWdpYyBhcmVuYUixO1CBMljpOnABeACQAQCYAU-gAdIHqgECMTO4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCIBgGSBwCgB8kE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

you EVEN attacked me when i just quoted WOTC (thus one of your latest postings with the same content got deleted) - ive reported you this time on my own. you are just attacking me with the same posting since several topics. i didnt care, but you are actually providing nothing to the discussions at all (u never explain anything with ur postings)

Also, the first thing in your google search, is of ONE redditor, at bronze rank, who got paired against mythic player...... AND WON.

So how is it rigged, if both decks are clearly strong, (bronze one obviously because it beat the mythic, and the mythic one obviously is because it got to mythic rank)

AND further redditors also say "oh if i'm matched against a bronze player That means they have a bonkers deck

You're making it out, that a starter deck is going to be put up against a mythic player aggro-red deck or something, when in reality, the matchmaker is doing it's job, putting similar strength decks against each other, based on what everyone in this Reddit post is saying.

[Ha 何豪源]

Originally posted by ChaffyExpert:

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

its funny that your post claiming that my evidences are wrong all the time, gets deleted nonstop from the mods here and doesnt stay for long usually. are you a troll or what?

https://www.google.com/search?q=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&sca_esv=53ccd5999cd137e6&udm=2&biw=2139&bih=1043&ei=DkSNZpisLYWIxc8P7cql-A4&ved=0ahUKEwiY6-fdkJqHAxUFRPEDHW1lCe8Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=bronze+player+paired+mythic+magic+arena&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJ2Jyb256ZSBwbGF5ZXIgcGFpcmVkIG15dGhpYyBtYWdpYyBhcmVuYUixO1CBMljpOnABeACQAQCYAU-gAdIHqgECMTO4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCIBgGSBwCgB8kE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

you EVEN attacked me when i just quoted WOTC (thus one of your latest postings with the same content got deleted) - ive reported you this time on my own. you are just attacking me with the same posting since several topics. i didnt care, but you are actually providing nothing to the discussions at all (u never explain anything with ur postings)

Also, the first thing in your google search, is of ONE redditor, at bronze rank, who got paired against mythic player...... AND WON.

So how is it rigged, if both decks are clearly strong, (bronze one obviously because it beat the mythic, and the mythic one obviously is because it got to mythic rank)

AND further redditors also say "oh if i'm matched against a bronze player That means they have a bonkers deck

You're making it out, that a starter deck is going to be put up against a mythic player aggro-red deck or something, when in reality, the matchmaker is doing it's job, putting similar strength decks against each other, based on what everyone in this Reddit post is saying.

what if i tell you, that i wrote the support (with proofs - except you think i altered the support requiry) and told them to refund me my draft-entry cost several times because i i played several mythics in a row in a draft as BRONZE (sometimes with weak-ass decks, where i went 0-3 and sometimes where i stomped them?) my highest rank in draft was NEVER higher than gold, because i dont draft that often per season

and i also faced them in standard too like others (with ranks from bronze and higher) - the support even said that can happen and they cant do anything about it

what are ranks here for, when they take the decks into account?! THEN THEY SHOULD GET RID OF THE RANKS, so new players (who dont even know the rules) with fresh decks can play against top-tier players, who use a similar or same deck on purpose and rig the rewards EVEN MORE.

thats so hilarious thinking about this, so then this game is more rigged than i thought

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Originally posted by Ha 何豪源:

Originally posted by ChaffyExpert:

Also, the first thing in your google search, is of ONE redditor, at bronze rank, who got paired against mythic player...... AND WON.

So how is it rigged, if both decks are clearly strong, (bronze one obviously because it beat the mythic, and the mythic one obviously is because it got to mythic rank)

AND further redditors also say "oh if i'm matched against a bronze player That means they have a bonkers deck

You're making it out, that a starter deck is going to be put up against a mythic player aggro-red deck or something, when in reality, the matchmaker is doing it's job, putting similar strength decks against each other, based on what everyone in this Reddit post is saying.

what if i tell you, that i wrote the support (with proofs - except you think i altered the support requiry) and told them to refund me my draft-entry cost several times because i i played several mythics in a row in a draft as BRONZE (sometimes with weak-ass decks, where i went 0-3 and sometimes where i stomped them?) my highest rank in draft was NEVER higher than gold, because i dont draft that often per season

and i also faced them in standard too like others (with ranks from bronze and higher) - the support even said that can happen and they cant do anything about it

what are ranks here for, when they take the decks into account?! THEN THEY SHOULD GET RID OF THE RANKS, so new players (who dont even know the rules) with fresh decks can play against top-tier players, who use a similar or same deck on purpose and rig the rewards EVEN MORE.

thats so hilarious thinking about this, so then this game is more rigged than i thought

I knew this was where this whole thing was going. Dude found a Reddit post describing a thing that happens pretty rarely, so now it has happened to him so many times. Oh brother.

And back to, "game is rigged." Lmfao

If we are just gonna make ♥♥♥♥ up then, I have this really cool story about how Santa Claus worked for the cartel.

[thelordsephiroth777]

The game is rigged when you spend money too. i dont think its a money issue cuz i get screwed over more than i dont and i own every card in the game minus 5%. The wizrds just make money by you being chronically online so theyre trying to rack up as many losses as they can get away with while still iving you enough colout to gaslight you that the shuffler etc is in fact fine