Matchmaking is completely rigged :(

[滅 PUNISHED FRIDGE]

Was really enjoying this game, won a good 2/3 , 3/4 matches enough to get up to platinum tier 2- then suddenly after a 5 game winning streak, I am matched with players I had no chance beating, knocked all the way down to platinum tier 4 and still being matched with people many tiers above me. I am completely stuck with no option other to fork up the money for more mythic rare cards to compete with all of the high tier decks that are almost exclusively rare / mythic rare cards. It feels very predatory, and after watching many videos on how the match making and shuffling mechanics work, I can't help but feel that it's the end of the line for my advancing in the ranks without paying up.

[joesephjOSEPH]

Originalmente postado por Ashman:

I like the fact that when you play a ssss tier deck for a day and get 10 wins in a row, you spend the next 2 month losing against hardcounters every game.

Totally random and just a coincidence of course

ive had some absurd bad luck streaks in this game after some absurd win streaks where i couldn't draw wrong. the way it goes it feels rigged. To the point of where you can call out whats going to happen before the game even starts. it def feels rigged and weird like its not natural randomness and something is up with how decks are shuffled.
i tested something by putting two off color cards in a deck that could be played in the deck with a card but the deck didn't have the mana to cast them straight. i Played a ton of matches and the amount of matches i drew those two cards in the opening hand just seemed statistically impossible

with all that said though i remember having some crazy bad luck streaks in paper magic that seemed like straight voodoo because not only do you shuffle your deck the opponent typically will too when asked to cut yet i still could not draw a normal hand match after match tournament after tournament.

i play tier 3 to tier 1 decks that have good mana to spell balance and a little protection against screw and flood.

my conclusion is that if arena is rigged or not the game just has a huge luck factor and weird random ♥♥♥♥ like this happens and should be part of the expectation. it is a bit like rock paper scissors or a gamble a lot of the time. You can't win the game consistently on luck alone. it takes a lot of game knowledge and practice to play a deck and sequence each turn perfectly but so many games are decided on luck.

its a fun and addictive loop but to enjoy this game fully you have to accept the variance and randomness of it all. which includes accepting its normal to hit long loss streaks with even tier 1 decks.

one can see this in limited too. you study the format. you look at the best decks constructed possible. You then go ahead and draft what on paper would be considered a perfect deck with choice rares. then you 0-3 on bad draws to badly constructed decks.

magic is just an imperfect game like this. the solution to the variance and randomness is to buy more cards build more decks and or play more games. how much time do you want to loop in a game like that is what it comes down to.

[Quazy]

Originalmente postado por magnumaniac:

Originalmente postado por 滅 PUNISHED FRIDGE:

Improve? I'm talking about a notable and stark change in trend after hundreds of ranked games. It statistically makes no sense for me to suddenly only win 1/6 games after going on so many winning streaks.

Statistically, it makes perfect sense. It is called variance. Anyone that plays poker seriously knows about it. You will get days / weeks where you can't stop winning, then you will get similar periods of time when you can't win a thing.
When you hit a losing streak, you get emotionally affected and continuing to play means you make bad decisions and play sub-optimally. Take a break and come back later.

If you can't handle that, then card games are not for you.

says the person who has no idea how to calculate variance. what you said works in a card game where everyone pulls from the same deck. yes variance your thinking of applies. in a game where each person pulls from a tailored deck. you end up with a rock paper scissors type variance. where each one excludes the other from winning.
except in this game you have metas that makes it more like a 7 way exclusion. think rock paper scissors shotgun bomb nuke supernova

if someone is playing with nuke. and starts facing nothing but supernova. thats not natural variance is it

[Free Palestine]

Originalmente postado por 滅 PUNISHED FRIDGE:

Was really enjoying this game, won a good 2/3 , 3/4 matches enough to get up to platinum tier 2- then suddenly after a 5 game winning streak, I am matched with players I had no chance beating, knocked all the way down to platinum tier 4 and still being matched with people many tiers above me. I am completely stuck with no option other to fork up the money for more mythic rare cards to compete with all of the high tier decks that are almost exclusively rare / mythic rare cards. It feels very predatory, and after watching many videos on how the match making and shuffling mechanics work, I can't help but feel that it's the end of the line for my advancing in the ranks without paying up.

The MM is rigged. There are youtube videos about it. Yes.

[Free Palestine]

Originalmente postado por joesephjOSEPH:

Originalmente postado por Ashman:

I like the fact that when you play a ssss tier deck for a day and get 10 wins in a row, you spend the next 2 month losing against hardcounters every game.

Totally random and just a coincidence of course

ive had some absurd bad luck streaks in this game after some absurd win streaks where i couldn't draw wrong. the way it goes it feels rigged. To the point of where you can call out whats going to happen before the game even starts. it def feels rigged and weird like its not natural randomness and something is up with how decks are shuffled.
i tested something by putting two off color cards in a deck that could be played in the deck with a card but the deck didn't have the mana to cast them straight. i Played a ton of matches and the amount of matches i drew those two cards in the opening hand just seemed statistically impossible

with all that said though i remember having some crazy bad luck streaks in paper magic that seemed like straight voodoo because not only do you shuffle your deck the opponent typically will too when asked to cut yet i still could not draw a normal hand match after match tournament after tournament.

i play tier 3 to tier 1 decks that have good mana to spell balance and a little protection against screw and flood.

my conclusion is that if arena is rigged or not the game just has a huge luck factor and weird random ♥♥♥♥ like this happens and should be part of the expectation. it is a bit like rock paper scissors or a gamble a lot of the time. You can't win the game consistently on luck alone. it takes a lot of game knowledge and practice to play a deck and sequence each turn perfectly but so many games are decided on luck.

its a fun and addictive loop but to enjoy this game fully you have to accept the variance and randomness of it all. which includes accepting its normal to hit long loss streaks with even tier 1 decks.

one can see this in limited too. you study the format. you look at the best decks constructed possible. You then go ahead and draft what on paper would be considered a perfect deck with choice rares. then you 0-3 on bad draws to badly constructed decks.

magic is just an imperfect game like this. the solution to the variance and randomness is to buy more cards build more decks and or play more games. how much time do you want to loop in a game like that is what it comes down to.

It is rigged. Go watch YouTube videos about it.

[Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|]

Originalmente postado por Press:

It is rigged. Go watch YouTube videos about it.

Lol its on youtube it must be true.....

[Free Palestine]

Originalmente postado por Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|:

Originalmente postado por Press:

It is rigged. Go watch YouTube videos about it.

Lol its on youtube it must be true.....

:gilga:

Stop talking and go watch the video. If you want proof, it's there, or you can run your mouth like you are now and be proved wrong. I wonder what it would take to convince you or if you're too ignorant to learn anything.

[Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|]

Originalmente postado por Press:

Stop talking and go watch the video. If you want proof, it's there, or you can run your mouth like you are now and be proved wrong. I wonder what it would take to convince you or if you're too ignorant to learn anything.

I have more than 2.000 hours in this game, yeah show me the proof, that this game is rigged

[TotalTriscuit]

Originalmente postado por Press:

Originalmente postado por Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|:

Lol its on youtube it must be true.....

:gilga:

Stop talking and go watch the video. If you want proof, it's there, or you can run your mouth like you are now and be proved wrong. I wonder what it would take to convince you or if you're too ignorant to learn anything.

You're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Both in Arena and IRL. Go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ play something mindless, like Pokemon.

[Ulfric Sombrage]

The worst is the hidden mmr, which is very obvious.

[PlanB]

Originalmente postado por Press:

Originalmente postado por Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|:

Lol its on youtube it must be true.....

:gilga:

Stop talking and go watch the video. If you want proof, it's there, or you can run your mouth like you are now and be proved wrong. I wonder what it would take to convince you or if you're too ignorant to learn anything.

What "the video" are you talking about?

[Serkian]

welcome to the game give they money

[Free Palestine]

Originalmente postado por PlanB:

Originalmente postado por Press:

Stop talking and go watch the video. If you want proof, it's there, or you can run your mouth like you are now and be proved wrong. I wonder what it would take to convince you or if you're too ignorant to learn anything.

What "the video" are you talking about?

Go to YouTube and type in MtG Arena rigged and go look. This isn't hard.

[Free Palestine]

Originalmente postado por Ulfric Sombrage:

The worst is the hidden mmr, which is very obvious.

This

[PlanB]

Originalmente postado por Press:

Originalmente postado por PlanB:

What "the video" are you talking about?

Go to YouTube and type in MtG Arena rigged and go look. This isn't hard.

Oh okay, thanks.

I found a video that proved that MtG Arena wasn't rigged. I'm glad we got that cleared up!

[Free Palestine]

Originalmente postado por PlanB:

Originalmente postado por Press:

Go to YouTube and type in MtG Arena rigged and go look. This isn't hard.

Oh okay, thanks.

I found a video that proved that MtG Arena wasn't rigged. I'm glad we got that cleared up!

No, you didn't because it doesn't exist. Do you want the link to show you it's rigged, or are you going to continue to run your mouth? Which is it?