Matchmaking is completely rigged :(

[滅 PUNISHED FRIDGE]

Was really enjoying this game, won a good 2/3 , 3/4 matches enough to get up to platinum tier 2- then suddenly after a 5 game winning streak, I am matched with players I had no chance beating, knocked all the way down to platinum tier 4 and still being matched with people many tiers above me. I am completely stuck with no option other to fork up the money for more mythic rare cards to compete with all of the high tier decks that are almost exclusively rare / mythic rare cards. It feels very predatory, and after watching many videos on how the match making and shuffling mechanics work, I can't help but feel that it's the end of the line for my advancing in the ranks without paying up.

[Ripshot Blue]

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Escrito originalmente por Winter Wolf:

I suspect you are in for some serious disappointments in the near future if you really believe buying better cards will make the difference in whether you can get past plat-2 or not.

I don't understand why everyone has to come in here and accssshualllyyyy at anyone with complaints, their algorithm is glaringly skewed to favor people who spend hundreds of dollars on the game, because why wouldn't they.

There's 2 meta decks in standard right now that only take mabey a week of playing casuals to get the wilds for, The accusations that MM only favors people who pay is cute as they happen nearly daily at this point. I havnt dropped a penny on this game so I personally know that its not true as the times I do play ranked, I climb at a steady pace with afew dips from time to time. If you hit a wall, thats your skill wall, fix your deck or change your playstyle, this is a card game so thats whats expected.

[Ripshot Blue]

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Escrito originalmente por The_Dybbuk_King:

Let's try to think about this from another perspective.

Little Spike just saw this cool deck streamed at an event or something and spent the money/time to get the cards and try out his new deck. Who are you, or anyone in this forum for that matter, to tell Timmy, Spike, or Johnny how to play?

Who are you to tell us that we have to be a "Spike" and only play meta decks, so you don't play 99% of what makes MTG worth playing to begin with.

Also the point is not everyone wants to play against RDW for the thousandth time in a row or any of the other UNFUN decks DESIGNED to not let a game happen, in which case what's the point of playing magic, if every deck is designed for a non-game where nobody gets to actually play anything.

Why can't we just have one format, like even Brawl/commander (yes i know it's not the exact same thing, no, i don't care about you saying Brawl isn't commander.) where we just get to, idk, actually play the game.

So many people here like that talking neck, telling us how to play and saying we have no skill because we didn't just download our decks.

you can play decks you enjoy, in modes that are meant to be enjoyed casually, like casual modes. Ranked is intended to try your best & the best in a card game is using the best cards. You cant complain that people say to use meta as its the point to ranked, to try your hardest. If you dont want to do meta thats fine but dont expect MM to be balanced around you having fun.

[Winter Wolf]

right now there is a midweek magic format with Chimil in Historic. Weird and fun if you build around it.

[Terran Ghost]

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Escrito originalmente por ChaffyExpert:

Who are you to tell us that we have to be a "Spike" and only play meta decks, so you don't play 99% of what makes MTG worth playing to begin with.

Also the point is not everyone wants to play against RDW for the thousandth time in a row or any of the other UNFUN decks DESIGNED to not let a game happen, in which case what's the point of playing magic, if every deck is designed for a non-game where nobody gets to actually play anything.

Why can't we just have one format, like even Brawl/commander (yes i know it's not the exact same thing, no, i don't care about you saying Brawl isn't commander.) where we just get to, idk, actually play the game.

So many people here like that talking neck, telling us how to play and saying we have no skill because we didn't just download our decks.

you can play decks you enjoy, in modes that are meant to be enjoyed casually, like casual modes. Ranked is intended to try your best & the best in a card game is using the best cards. You cant complain that people say to use meta as its the point to ranked, to try your hardest. If you dont want to do meta thats fine but dont expect MM to be balanced around you having fun.

There's a saying in theatre. It's something to the effect of "first you do it for the money, then you do it for the creativity".

I play ranked for the rewards and then move to unranked so I can play the deck and play-style I'm in the mood for. Ranked doesn't have much flexibility,

I'm hoping this is making sense. Really sleep deprived RN.

[Tom the Mime Artist]

Escrito originalmente por Winter Wolf:

right now there is a midweek magic format with Chimil in Historic. Weird and fun if you build around it.

If you're not going all in for a combo, run at least 1 copy of MV 1 enchantment removal. Scheming symmetry into monstrous vortex gets very big, very fast (or outright lethal if it hits terror of the peaks).

[Winter Wolf]

Escrito originalmente por Tom the Mime Artist:

Escrito originalmente por Winter Wolf:

right now there is a midweek magic format with Chimil in Historic. Weird and fun if you build around it.

If you're not going all in for a combo, run at least 1 copy of MV 1 enchantment removal. Scheming symmetry into monstrous vortex gets very big, very fast (or outright lethal if it hits terror of the peaks).

Yeah Ive seen quite a few variations on the theme involving enchantments. Good advice!

[thelordsephiroth777]

100% true on everything you said. its very predatory but all wotc cares about is dollar bills. the sad truth is youll buy those new cards add them and in 3-4 games or sometimes the very next game youll be matched against someone targeting your deck and youll have to buy another deck. either tought it out or find frieeds to play with on arena instead and save your mental health

[couches ☃]

stop taking your rank so seriously

[Ripshot Blue]

Escrito originalmente por thelordsephiroth777:

100% true on everything you said. its very predatory but all wotc cares about is dollar bills. the sad truth is youll buy those new cards add them and in 3-4 games or sometimes the very next game youll be matched against someone targeting your deck and youll have to buy another deck. either tought it out or find frieeds to play with on arena instead and save your mental health

It's almost like many people have counters to many setups in higher ranks because letting your opponent setup is a bad thing, just a hunch though, im sure its what you said & the game is just coded to directly target you in particular.

[ChaffyExpert]

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Escrito originalmente por ChaffyExpert:

Who are you to tell us that we have to be a "Spike" and only play meta decks, so you don't play 99% of what makes MTG worth playing to begin with.

Also the point is not everyone wants to play against RDW for the thousandth time in a row or any of the other UNFUN decks DESIGNED to not let a game happen, in which case what's the point of playing magic, if every deck is designed for a non-game where nobody gets to actually play anything.

Why can't we just have one format, like even Brawl/commander (yes i know it's not the exact same thing, no, i don't care about you saying Brawl isn't commander.) where we just get to, idk, actually play the game.

So many people here like that talking neck, telling us how to play and saying we have no skill because we didn't just download our decks.

you can play decks you enjoy, in modes that are meant to be enjoyed casually, like casual modes. Ranked is intended to try your best & the best in a card game is using the best cards. You cant complain that people say to use meta as its the point to ranked, to try your hardest. If you dont want to do meta thats fine but dont expect MM to be balanced around you having fun.

That's where you're wrong, whatever ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ decks in standard invade the others, even if it's harder, even brawl has the sort of discard and etc. type bull.

And especially unranked.

Also the problem isn't people using meta decks it's that the decks designed for a non-game, and the fact magic is balanced so that these unfun decks are still effective and make every game a non-game.

[Ripshot Blue]

Escrito originalmente por ChaffyExpert:

Escrito originalmente por Ripshot Blue:

you can play decks you enjoy, in modes that are meant to be enjoyed casually, like casual modes. Ranked is intended to try your best & the best in a card game is using the best cards. You cant complain that people say to use meta as its the point to ranked, to try your hardest. If you dont want to do meta thats fine but dont expect MM to be balanced around you having fun.

That's where you're wrong, whatever ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ decks in standard invade the others, even if it's harder, even brawl has the sort of discard and etc. type bull.

And especially unranked.

Also the problem isn't people using meta decks it's that the decks designed for a non-game, and the fact magic is balanced so that these unfun decks are still effective and make every game a non-game.

there's ways around these decks, an example is hexproof / shroud, graveyard retrieval, life insurance cards, etc. Brawl has one of the larger pools of cards & has much more access to answers then standard.

[ChaffyExpert]

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Escrito originalmente por ChaffyExpert:

That's where you're wrong, whatever ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ decks in standard invade the others, even if it's harder, even brawl has the sort of discard and etc. type bull.

And especially unranked.

Also the problem isn't people using meta decks it's that the decks designed for a non-game, and the fact magic is balanced so that these unfun decks are still effective and make every game a non-game.

there's ways around these decks, an example is hexproof / shroud, graveyard retrieval, life insurance cards, etc. Brawl has one of the larger pools of cards & has much more access to answers then standard.

None of those don't work against sacrifice and board wipes, and there is a lot of anti-graveyard cards or exile boardwipes, and there is alot in brawl because of the massive card pool.

not to mention in brawl you can only have one of said card, so you may not even draw anything to counter it. (not to mention there's literally no counter for cards like Farewell besides blue counterspells.

[Ripshot Blue]

Escrito originalmente por ChaffyExpert:

Escrito originalmente por Ripshot Blue:

there's ways around these decks, an example is hexproof / shroud, graveyard retrieval, life insurance cards, etc. Brawl has one of the larger pools of cards & has much more access to answers then standard.

None of those don't work against sacrifice and board wipes, and there is a lot of anti-graveyard cards or exile boardwipes, and there is alot in brawl because of the massive card pool.

not to mention in brawl you can only have one of said card, so you may not even draw anything to counter it. (not to mention there's literally no counter for cards like Farewell besides blue counterspells.

yes, there are still answers to all of those, even farewell, some of which I run in my brawl decks. Kaya tthe Inexorable, Athreos Shroud-Veiled, Elemental Expressionist, Any God-Eternal, Kaya Ghostform, Etc. Those are an example of countering exile as they either play round it or cant be exiled.

[ChaffyExpert]

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Escrito originalmente por ChaffyExpert:

None of those don't work against sacrifice and board wipes, and there is a lot of anti-graveyard cards or exile boardwipes, and there is alot in brawl because of the massive card pool.

not to mention in brawl you can only have one of said card, so you may not even draw anything to counter it. (not to mention there's literally no counter for cards like Farewell besides blue counterspells.

yes, there are still answers to all of those, even farewell, some of which I run in my brawl decks. Kaya tthe Inexorable, Athreos Shroud-Veiled, Elemental Expressionist, Any God-Eternal, Kaya Ghostform, Etc. Those are an example of countering exile as they either play round it or cant be exiled.

Yeah and i'm sure you're draw that very specific few set of cards when you need it consisting of basically every color *eyeroll*

[Ripshot Blue]

Escrito originalmente por ChaffyExpert:

Escrito originalmente por Ripshot Blue:

yes, there are still answers to all of those, even farewell, some of which I run in my brawl decks. Kaya tthe Inexorable, Athreos Shroud-Veiled, Elemental Expressionist, Any God-Eternal, Kaya Ghostform, Etc. Those are an example of countering exile as they either play round it or cant be exiled.

Yeah and i'm sure you're draw that very specific few set of cards when you need it consisting of basically every color *eyeroll*

well if we pray to rng & only top deck then sure your logic makes sense, but again theres another answer to that situation & thats cards that allow you to scry, surveil, draw extra cards, seek specific cards, etc.