MtG Arena is one of the worst online card games out there.

[Flying Acehole]

Arena has nothing to do with Paper Magic. Too annoying, too stressful, too loud and an absolutely bad match finding.
Anyone who has ever had the pleasure of playing Paper Magic knows what I mean. I only use Arena to look at various cards or as a deck builder. I also believe that there is something wrong with ARENA.
I've been playing MAGIC since 1995 and have seen and experienced a lot. Of course there are professionals out there. But with Paper Magic I can choose which skill level I want to play against. But not at ARENA. There you play with a beginner deck against a fully developed tournament deck. No chance. Actions are followed by confusing animations and you lose the total overview. Opponents sit out their turn until the last second and then make their move. In the hope that you will give up the game in between. Apparently they're trying to breed a fast clicking game like GWENT. But that has nothing to do with MtG.

I am absolutely disappointed with Arena.

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[Nec]

What other options do we have? How many online card games are there? Where does Arena sit if it's one of the worst? Why are you playing beginner decks outside of beginner deck duels?

[Flying Acehole]

At the beginning you always play with your starter deck. You have no other choice. Of course, after finishing the tutorial you can build a deck out of the bad beginner cards. But what's the point if I play against opponents who obviously got their decks from the internet?
I often have opponents who have the perfect “answer” to my move. More and more I have the impression that I am constantly being defeated with the same 10 cards. I just say "Mirrodin"...
No variety, no creativity. It's all about winning somehow and getting rewards.
It's like GWENT.
I win= I get cosmetics.
I like GWENT. But when I play it I know what to expect.


Magic is officially the most complex game in the world. But here it's just a mobile game and doesn't reflect the actual Magic.

[Nec]

Originally posted by Flying Acehole:

At the beginning you always play with your starter deck. You have no other choice. Of course, after finishing the tutorial you can build a deck out of the bad beginner cards. But what's the point if I play against opponents who obviously got their decks from the internet?
I often have opponents who have the perfect “answer” to my move. More and more I have the impression that I am constantly being defeated with the same 10 cards. I just say "Mirrodin"...
No variety, no creativity. It's all about winning somehow and getting rewards.
It's like GWENT.
I win= I get cosmetics.
I like GWENT. But when I play it I know what to expect.


Magic is officially the most complex game in the world. But here it's just a mobile game and doesn't reflect the actual Magic.

So what you're saying is, your experience has so far been bad, therefore the game is bad?

Games like this take patience or cash, you're given the choice to pick one, so pick one (or both. I don't care if people spend money on a f2p game) and build a better deck.

Eventually you'll learn how to better play against the copy paste decks, in the hands of amateurs, the tools they're using only provide moderate help.

Try some different formats, stay away from stuff like historic or timeless right now, you don't have the card pool to compete in them, yet. Standard Brawl is where I lived the first 200 hours of game-play, built a huge card pool doing dailies there relatively fast for a free player, and the singleton format of Brawl makes it less likely to see the same things over and over again.

People need to remember that Arena isn't intended to be a MTG experience, it's a money machine first and a quick and dirty way to play competitive magic from the comfort of home, or the city bus.

Play paper, with friends, in their garage or your local card shop if you want to have a grin and see weird stuff that no one else uses.

Expectations are set way too high for this game when people start, and then in a few hours, or even just a few games, it gets dropped and ♥♥♥♥ on for being a bad game. IMO it's not a bad game, it's just not a complete game and doesn't anywhere near encompass what MTG used to be about. Arena is just a fix.

[magnumaniac]

With all the free packs you can get from the codes available to new players, you easily get enough wildcards to build a competitive deck.

You chose not to, and decided the game was bad because of your choice.

[bquaresma_15]

Me to bro, it´s a disgrace, Let´s get back to the real magic, Arena is completely rigged. Disgusting what they do with the online gaming. Looking for money, nothing eles mathers.

[ChaffyExpert]

Originally posted by bquaresma_15:

Looking for money,

Did they find it yet?

[Soji]

Yea this client sucks. It's not even the best official one, MTGO is better because you can play actual magic not infested with skinnerbox mechanics and alchemy cards in fake formats. The only thing it has going for it is its presentation, which admittedly is pretty ok, if a bit lifeless at times. How do you have so many unique characters throughout the multiverse and they're all so damn quiet? No unique voice lines? If you're gonna copy hearthstone mechanics why not the charm the game has with the different portraits having different voice lines?

[BEEN]

You say it’s the worst online card game and then compare Arena to tabletop magic.

[KLXFAN77]

Nec must be one of the developers or a reddit lifer I've never seen someone outside of reddit get so offended at someones opinion that they reply twice.

[Nec]

Originally posted by KLXFAN77:

Nec must be one of the developers or a reddit lifer I've never seen someone outside of reddit get so offended at someones opinion that they reply twice.

Huh? You're trying way to hard to bait me here. Either that or you don't know what the word offended even means.

My response was calm and helpful. I asked questions in my first response, got some answers then provided advice.

Nice bait, but uh, back to the basement with you.

[ChaffyExpert]

Originally posted by Soji:

Yea this client sucks. It's not even the best official one, MTGO is better because you can play actual magic not infested with skinnerbox mechanics and alchemy cards in fake formats. The only thing it has going for it is its presentation, which admittedly is pretty ok, if a bit lifeless at times. How do you have so many unique characters throughout the multiverse and they're all so damn quiet? No unique voice lines? If you're gonna copy hearthstone mechanics why not the charm the game has with the different portraits having different voice lines?

Is there a moment where you aren't gatekeeping?

[joesephjOSEPH]

i played paper magic for like 15 years before i played on arena. its the same. whats different? you can turn the audio off. there is just no face to face and no one is cheating. is it not better?

[KLXFAN77]

Originally posted by Nec:

Originally posted by KLXFAN77:

Nec must be one of the developers or a reddit lifer I've never seen someone outside of reddit get so offended at someones opinion that they reply twice.

Huh? You're trying way to hard to bait me here. Either that or you don't know what the word offended even means.

My response was calm and helpful. I asked questions in my first response, got some answers then provided advice.

Nice bait, but uh, back to the basement with you.

No bait just truth and lmao when the wall of text two replies guy tells ME to get back in the basement, too funny.

[Ripshot Blue]

Originally posted by Flying Acehole:

But with Paper Magic I can choose which skill level I want to play against. But not at ARENA.

Arena has a MMR/Weight system for finding opponents, Paper is just whoever sits at the table. An example is if I walk into a local FNM that ive never been to, people will assume im somewhat new with a precon deck, Only I would know I got a 2 turn infinite infect deck. This will never happen in arena as it knows half the cards im using are rare pulls.

[Nec]

Originally posted by KLXFAN77:

Originally posted by Nec:

Huh? You're trying way to hard to bait me here. Either that or you don't know what the word offended even means.

My response was calm and helpful. I asked questions in my first response, got some answers then provided advice.

Nice bait, but uh, back to the basement with you.

No bait just truth and lmao when the wall of text two replies guy tells ME to get back in the basement, too funny.

WALL of text?! Lmfao, tell me you did terrible in grade school without telling me you did terrible in grade school.

What are you even doing here anyway? You don't even play the game

Anyway, wasting time feeding trolls isn't on my to-do list. Don't bother replying, I won't see it.