Magic: The Gathering Arena

Magic: The Gathering Arena

Ban Jan 23, 2024 @ 3:02am
Why i stop playing now
I decided to stop playing Magic. I love this game but it has so many problems.

I dont want to be frustrated every time when i play this game.

I think they should ban more cards and restrict more cards and get rid of infinity combos...
To be honest, not many players play infinite combos.

One Big Problem are the huge amount of controll decks - its just only fun for one site, the other site is just waisting time, thats why i always leave this matches instantly...

The other Problem are the huge Amount of roper and the time management itself.
Its so hard to find an Enemy that is not roping or playing controll.
I like to loose to players that play a normal game style, but try to find one...

Ranked is a good place to get some normal matches but if u rank up to platin its done.. It feels like there only 3-5 Kind of Decks that people play there and it makes no fun to play against. The higher you rank its getting more worse.

If i want i can play this poopoo decks too but be honest - it is only fun in a very short period of time.

And on top there is the broken Shuffle system. 60 Cards - 24 Lands.
Based on Math, every 2,5 Card that i draw should be a Land Card.
Why do i 1. only draw lands in a row (and i mean up to 8 Lands in a Row) or 2. no lands in a row.
On the Other hand i draw so often 4x the same card in a row(like 6 cards draw 4x same card) and other cards NEVER.
I play max 70 card decks. I have Decks where i never draw some kind of cards early. Never.
I played 500 Hours on Epic and about 150+ here...
Iam forced to play many Draw Cards cards to get rid of this poo...

I miss the Old Magic, where the Elf or Remasuri Decks where the worst you can find and people just choose stop playing against you because youre a ♥♥♥♥♥♥...

When did it actually become popular to play decks that only wanted to prevent others from playing?
Last edited by Ban; Jan 23, 2024 @ 3:11am
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Richthoven Jan 23, 2024 @ 10:26am 
"One Big Problem are the huge amount of controll decks - its just only fun for one site, the other site is just waisting time, thats why i always leave this matches instantly..."

I dont think it is a big problem, because control decks are just part of the deck archetypes, that MtG brought up. Every deck is sometimes or more often a chore to play against. Learn to beat them.
ZAP Jan 23, 2024 @ 10:46am 
Been running monowhite tax in historic and explorer, orzhov hatebears and reanimator in brawl because people remove everything or haste a good amount of the games.

The problem is stale synergies and wincons. For newer players it's 100% okay though because they have to go up against the same exact thing. After a year or two it's best to try getting creative and have fun with it.
Snoot Boops Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by Ban:
I dont want to be frustrated every time when i play this game.
understandable.

Originally posted by Ban:
I think they should ban more cards and restrict more cards and get rid of infinity combos...
To be honest, not many players play infinite combos.

Originally posted by Ban:
One Big Problem are the huge amount of controll decks - its just only fun for one site, the other site is just waisting time, thats why i always leave this matches instantly...
for literally the very thing you were just complaining about in the sentence you stated before this one? tbh, it might be boring for you or others, but control is really the only way to stop people from playing cards or using them. i play a different style of control where you get to play your cards but you will never attack me with them.


Originally posted by Ban:
Ranked is a good place to get some normal matches but if u rank up to platin its done.. It feels like there only 3-5 Kind of Decks that people play there and it makes no fun to play against. The higher you rank its getting more worse.
this is why unranked is better imo. not much better there. probably some of the worst time wasters but at least there's some variety to be seen.

Originally posted by Ban:
And on top there is the broken Shuffle system. 60 Cards - 24 Lands.
Based on Math, every 2,5 Card that i draw should be a Land Card.
Why do i 1. only draw lands in a row (and i mean up to 8 Lands in a Row) or 2. no lands in a row.
few options here and a reason why i see a lot of mana ramp decks. either run mana ramp or use cheap creatures that tap for land. it's like putting out 2 land in 1 turn.

Originally posted by Ban:
When did it actually become popular to play decks that only wanted to prevent others from playing?

have you seen the ridiculous bs they've been coming out with? of course i wanna stop you from playing that card. Oh boy infinite cycle of taking 1 life until i reach 0 and have to sit there and wait for every effect to resolve just because you hit me 1 time with a 1/1. or just because i blocked it. or, oh boy your turn will never end. might as well get up and go take a dump while you play only with yourself. again, yeah, i want you to not play those cancerous cards.

any time i'm not playing a control deck of some kind and play a normal deck, for some reason the game decides to always put me against mono black decks that just so conveniently pull out every kill, removal and exile card while always somehow having 4 pilfers in their hand from the start of the game. it is becoming obnoxious to play the game. that's why there's so many control decks being used.
Last edited by Snoot Boops; Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:32pm
Susan From HR Jan 23, 2024 @ 4:06pm 
so your pissed your losing
Last edited by Susan From HR; Jan 23, 2024 @ 4:06pm
Undying Anivia Jan 23, 2024 @ 7:04pm 
while your gone i'm going to get a bigger card collection than you <3
Pardon me for sounding rude but it sounds like you might need some help building your decks then. Of course, not everything is going to be fantastic in execution (I say this as a lover of jank decks) but you can stack the deck so to say. I can't give much advice really but the best bits I can give are these:

Try to see what your deck struggles the most against. What sorts of things does it crumble when interacting with? If it's too slow then try adding either cheaper creatures to buy time or spells that let you deny your opponents resources (counterspells are fantastic, though kill spells and bounce spells also buy you time).

See what you're commonly facing and plan accordingly. If you find yourself facing a lot of enchantment heavy decks then try slotting in some removal for them! See what you can run in your deck's colors for dealing with those problems, some are better at it than others however - green hates enchantments for some reason.

Check your mana curve. If you find yourself in the position of not having enough mana a lot, try to adjust the average cost of cards in your deck. Cut a few of the more expensive cards that aren't really necessary, or if you have a lot of extra mana then maybe put some more in! If you find you get hit with mana floods (too many land draws) often then cut a land or two before testing more matches, might save you the headache!

Finally (and most importantly) you should try to identify what it is your deck is *supposed* to be doing to win and ask yourself "is it doing this really?" If you can't answer that question with a yes - or answer it at all - then you need to go back and figure out why that is. A deck that just gains a lot of life won't win the game, just prolong it until you run out life gain but a deck that uses that life gain to generate creature tokens? That can win you the game, you just need enough tokens to swing for lethal. If you're making a lot of foods, try using a card that can turn them into damage! Want to be a psycho and run even more lands? Try using landfall triggers to boost your creatures or burn your opponent!

The last thing I'll say is to remember that you aren't playing against bots (probably) so you won't win every match, every win for you means an opponent lost. Don't sweat it too much, just vibe and enjoy making stuff you like! Maybe grab some friends together if you want to just throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks!
Ha 何豪源 Jan 24, 2024 @ 3:13am 
you know whats fun? using hell queue commanders in the midweek brawl event against new players with no decks (no, its not sarcasm - its real)
GaviJa Jan 24, 2024 @ 3:19am 
This game is only "you are as good as your next draw".

And with a smooth B01 shuffler, you can be sure this game is polarizing games like you have never seen before. Either winning by a huge margin or losing by a huge margin, there is no middle ground.

If this game was poker, you would have people pulling out straight royal flush every 100 hands. That's how trash this game is designed.
Last edited by GaviJa; Jan 24, 2024 @ 3:24am
Chummy 8 Jan 24, 2024 @ 4:05am 
I also miss the duels of the planewalkers days where everyone was limited to basically the same decks.

I guess you can just play starter deck duel in Arena to get the same feel
Ha 何豪源 Jan 24, 2024 @ 5:52am 
starter deck duel is not fair either, because red/white is way, way, way above the others (then red/blue and by far the bottom is blue/green), and you cant face the same deck somehow
DontMisunderstand Jan 24, 2024 @ 9:39am 
Aggro decks took over the game relatively early in its inception, and their entire strategy is to prevent a game from occurring at all. The answer to your rhetorical question is "over 25 years ago".

Your comments on deck diversity in Platinum Ranked tell me you're playing a bad format. Swap to Historic or Timeless, you'll find a lot more deck variety.
DontMisunderstand Jan 24, 2024 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by GaviJa:
This game is only "you are as good as your next draw".

And with a smooth B01 shuffler, you can be sure this game is polarizing games like you have never seen before. Either winning by a huge margin or losing by a huge margin, there is no middle ground.

If this game was poker, you would have people pulling out straight royal flush every 100 hands. That's how trash this game is designed.
Off-topic, but the chance of you specifically having a royal flush in 5 card draw poker is roughly 1 in 10000. If there are, say, 6 players at the table the probability of one of them having a royal flush in 100 hands is something like 6%. Not that unlikely, all things considered.
PityClassy Jan 27, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
control has been a part of magic since the dawn of time and exist for a reason. Why am I going to let you put out ♥♥♥♥ I know is going to turn the tide of the battle and or make me lose. Control decks can also be countered, the main issue here is the matchmaking and not the cards themselves.

You ever gone against Avacyn Angel of Hope paired with Vanquish of the horde, and Armageddon? or Jace The Wallet Sculptor as a pure mill deck... simple way put control exists for a reason
Soji Jan 27, 2024 @ 7:25pm 
I feel like you and people like you have really unreasonable expectations out of card games. It's always 'i keep winning and now i only run into the same decks'. Like yea, there's only so many cards in the game? Surely you can't expect everyone to have completely unique decks even if they are piles of trash.

You yourself even said you can run bad decks but its only fun for so long, meaning you want to win, but you seem to have a problem when other players want to win? Why would anyone want to play those bad decks if you dont? I can never take complaints like this serious because they all read like 'i just want to win with the least resistance possible'
Panda Jan 28, 2024 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by Richthoven:
"One Big Problem are the huge amount of controll decks - its just only fun for one site, the other site is just waisting time, thats why i always leave this matches instantly..."

I dont think it is a big problem, because control decks are just part of the deck archetypes, that MtG brought up. Every deck is sometimes or more often a chore to play against. Learn to beat them.
"Learn to beat them" You don;t know what deck you;re playing before you queue, in BO1 control decks can literally just be you have no way of winning so you either scoop as soon as you see which deck the googled or your sit there for 5 mins wasting your time knowing you can't win.
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