Timeless

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Why are they trying to trick people into playing historic...? So that people that spent all their wildcards on banned historic combos that where banned for a reason can "have fun" using them...?

[Kurt Angle's Neck]

Originally posted by MTGA News:

We are creating Timeless as a home for MTG Arena's most powerful cards. As MTG Arena has grown, we have accumulated extra strong sets like Wilds of Eldraine Enchanting Tales and Strixhaven Mystical Archive. These cards did not have a great place to be played outside of their Limited formats without overrunning an existing Constructed format. Timeless will be a place to play these cards.

Timeless will feature every card on MTG Arena, which includes the fetch lands coming with Khans of Tarkir. We believe now is the right time to add a new format, as we have built up a healthy batch of these cards and expect more will be added from things like bonus sheets, The List in Play Boosters, and sets like Modern Horizons 3, coming in 2024. Players also proved there is demand for this format with their engagement and support during the Historic No Banned List and Historic Basically No Bans events we ran in September and November.

But what about Historic? The Historic format began as "the place to play with all of your cards on MTG Arena" but over time has shifted into a more curated format. We are happy with the state of Historic. It is balanced, made up of a diverse metagame of different decks, and offers a unique digital play experience. Historic maintains these qualities because we actively curate the format. We want the power level of Historic to continue to grow but don't want it to happen too quickly, as we believe it's in an enjoyable place right now. For these reasons, we have decided to pre-ban the Khans of Tarkir fetch lands from Historic but are excited to play with them in Timeless.

[Aerowreck]

I tried the timeless event for a couple of matches, and it was exactly as "fun" as I had envisioned.

♥♥♥♥ that, I'll just stick to drafts, standard and alchemy.

[Winter Wolf]

Timeless does seem wrongfooted the same way Alchemy does. However, it just started. Who knows what crazy things they will unleash in it later. Maybe they will bring Vintage to Arena. We already can cast the Power Nine with Oracle.

[Thorbalt]

Historic is balanced they say? Ok remind us again why Zabez even exists in arena

[Berserkr]

Originally posted by Thorbalt:

Historic is balanced they say? Ok remind us again why Zabez even exists in arena

Historic is the furthest thing from balanced and my message to new players always is stay as far away from it as possible lol

[Berserkr]

Timeless is exactly what you thought it was gonna be, combo decks after combo decks, if anyone thought it was gonna be anything other than that they should get their head checked. Necro myself down hopefully just out of bolt range to have 9-10 mana on turn 3-4 and do some crazy ♥♥♥♥, or storm for 2 dmg a gazillion times, it is what it is, they could have put their time and resources into making 2HD or commander but of course they didn't....shrug

[Taweret]

where i can see some timeless decks examples?

[Winter Wolf]

It's brand spanking new so there is not much out there. You could try MTGgoldfish but last I checked their list of timeless lists was empty.

[Winter Wolf]

actually wait no, here are some user submitted lists:

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck_searches/create?utf8=✓&deck_search%5Bname%5D=&deck_search%5Bformat%5D=timeless&deck_search%5Btypes%5D%5B%5D=&deck_search%5Btypes%5D%5B%5D=tournament&deck_search%5Btypes%5D%5B%5D=user&deck_search%5Bplayer%5D=&deck_search%5Bdate_range%5D=12%2F01%2F2023+-+12%2F15%2F2023&deck_search%5Bdeck_search_card_filters_attributes%5D%5B0%5D%5Bcard%5D=&deck_search%5Bdeck_search_card_filters_attributes%5D%5B0%5D%5Bquantity%5D=1&deck_search%5Bdeck_search_card_filters_attributes%5D%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=maindeck&deck_search%5Bdeck_search_card_filters_attributes%5D%5B1%5D%5Bcard%5D=&deck_search%5Bdeck_search_card_filters_attributes%5D%5B1%5D%5Bquantity%5D=1&deck_search%5Bdeck_search_card_filters_attributes%5D%5B1%5D%5Btype%5D=maindeck&counter=2&commit=Search

[Blade of Eagle]

Originally posted by Berserkr:

Timeless is exactly what you thought it was gonna be, combo decks after combo decks, if anyone thought it was gonna be anything other than that they should get their head checked. Necro myself down hopefully just out of bolt range to have 9-10 mana on turn 3-4 and do some crazy ♥♥♥♥, or storm for 2 dmg a gazillion times, it is what it is, they could have put their time and resources into making 2HD or commander but of course they didn't....shrug

Nah, things like 4C from-the-banlist midrange, URX tempo is more popular and playable than combo decks now, With only 1 quickmana.(though best one), combo can only start after the third turn most of times, as same as in Historic, sadly.

[Berserkr]

Originally posted by Blade of Eagle:

Nah, things like 4C from-the-banlist midrange, URX tempo is more popular and playable than combo decks now, With only 1 quickmana.(though best one), combo can only start after the third turn most of times, as same as in Historic, sadly.

Oh for sure, but turn 1 Sheoldred & Thoughtseize is pretty friggin brutal as well

[DontMisunderstand]

Originally posted by Berserkr:

Originally posted by Thorbalt:

Historic is balanced they say? Ok remind us again why Zabez even exists in arena

Historic is the furthest thing from balanced and my message to new players always is stay as far away from it as possible lol

This is the worst possible advice to give to new players. Historic has the lowest average power level with the highest variety in the metagame. You can succeed with any remotely competently built deck. Drafts are effectively solved formats decided by luck during the draft process, Standard has always been the least beginner friendly format in the game, and Brawl allows for a consistency that negatively warps expectations for other game modes. Historic just has the most to encourage new players to actually continue the game.

[Aerowreck]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Originally posted by Berserkr:

Historic is the furthest thing from balanced and my message to new players always is stay as far away from it as possible lol

This is the worst possible advice to give to new players. Historic has the lowest average power level with the highest variety in the metagame. You can succeed with any remotely competently built deck. Drafts are effectively solved formats decided by luck during the draft process, Standard has always been the least beginner friendly format in the game, and Brawl allows for a consistency that negatively warps expectations for other game modes. Historic just has the most to encourage new players to actually continue the game.

I don't find watching the opponent play solitaire for several minutes encouraging at all.

[Berserkr]

Originally posted by Aerowreck:

I don't find watching the opponent play solitaire for several minutes encouraging at all.

Pretty much this

[Thorbalt]

Originally posted by Berserkr:

Originally posted by Aerowreck:

I don't find watching the opponent play solitaire for several minutes encouraging at all.

Pretty much this

Ok, so you cant win in standard/explorer/historic if you dont play combo loser win on turn 3 trash, alchemy is for cheating garbage who should all die. Brawl is best for newbies because its a limited choice system which will help people figure out the game instead of quitting on the spot because some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ locked them in an infinite loss combo on turn 3 so......

what else is there?