just boycott this scam *ftc link below*

[LordoftheRobe]

So last time i said this people misdirected that actual point of why you shouldn't spend money on the game.

which is the broken shuffler, I honestly believe they just did a stack shuffling algorithm (which stack shufflin isn't really legal) which is why lands are lumped 2-6 together 80% of the time and why you'll get multiples of one card within 10 cards of each other.

stop spending money and tell mtg arena to fix this bait and switch tactic shuffler which isn't random in the slightest.

which is funny because in the premium drafts you do not have this shuffling algorithm that makes sure you have lands in hand. it's actually a real random shuffler which has far less mana screwed games.

just stop paying if you're a new player. honestly id recommenced just stop all together if you just started because this isn't a game but an actual scam promoting they have a "random algorithm" but is only reserved for premium drafts.

you "paupers" get the stack shuffler which is why you get mana flooded.

edit* at this point there is evidence that so many asked for that the hand smoothing just purposely makes you lose and is indeed broken im going to post the federal trade commission link so people can report mtg arena for bait and switching and false advertisement as they promote the shuffler is indeed random. So just report them and after enough reports the ftc have to investigate.

https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/#/assistant

[Badgriuel]

I just play it for the luls to ♥♥♥♥ around with people in matches, its funny watching them freak out. Also to laugh at the people still defending WoTC.

[Brother Alpha]

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

which is funny because in the premium drafts you do not have this shuffling algorithm that makes sure you have lands in hand. it's actually a real random shuffler which has far less mana screwed games.

All best of 1 matches use the same hand smoothing algorithm, so you just proved you don't know what you are talking about.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

which is the broken shuffler, I honestly believe they just did a stack shuffling algorithm (which stack shufflin isn't really legal) which is why lands are lumped 2-6 together 80% of the time and why you'll get multiples of one card within 10 cards of each other.

Incorrect. Learn how random number generation works. The very simplest and cleanest solution is to simply assign a random number to each card and then order the deck by those numbers.

which is funny because in the premium drafts you do not have this shuffling algorithm that makes sure you have lands in hand. it's actually a real random shuffler which has far less mana screwed games.

Hand smoothing is not a shuffling algorithm. It draws two or three hands of cards, then picks the one most resembling the distribution of card types in your deck. See https://draftsim.com/mtg-arena-bo1-hand-smoothing/

just stop paying if you're a new player. honestly id recommenced just stop all together if you just started because this isn't a game but an actual scam promoting they have a "random algorithm" but is only reserved for premium drafts.

And again false. Hand smoothing is applied only in Bo1 formats. No Bo3 formats use it.

[GarbageCollector]

Why do people give these obvious clown-farming posts clown awards?

Unless these are always the posters' alt accounts, you guys that give these things awards do realize you're just encouraging more right?

[LordoftheRobe]

Originally posted by The Fifth Horseman:

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

which is the broken shuffler, I honestly believe they just did a stack shuffling algorithm (which stack shufflin isn't really legal) which is why lands are lumped 2-6 together 80% of the time and why you'll get multiples of one card within 10 cards of each other.

Incorrect. Learn how random number generation works. The very simplest and cleanest solution is to simply assign a random number to each card and then order the deck by those numbers.

which is funny because in the premium drafts you do not have this shuffling algorithm that makes sure you have lands in hand. it's actually a real random shuffler which has far less mana screwed games.

Hand smoothing is not a shuffling algorithm. It draws two or three hands of cards, then picks the one most resembling the distribution of card types in your deck. See https://draftsim.com/mtg-arena-bo1-hand-smoothing/

just stop paying if you're a new player. honestly id recommenced just stop all together if you just started because this isn't a game but an actual scam promoting they have a "random algorithm" but is only reserved for premium drafts.

And again false. Hand smoothing is applied only in Bo1 formats. No Bo3 formats use it.

1) they do not use a random number generator. as lands and multiple of the same card would not be stacked with one another. please read what true randomness is and how mtg arena propaganda has been lying to you.

2) hand smoothing does affect the shuffling as it takes 1-4 lands from your deck specifcally. these lands do not come from outside your deck meaning the hand smoothing affects how the deck is shuffled and what you get.

again premium drafts have far less issues with stacked cards.

3)its not false. this is my second account on mtg arena. my old one i was doing nohting but premium drafts and even forgot about mana flooding as it wasn't happening 80% of the time. this game gets money from drafts not packs and theres a reason the lowest grade gets hand smoothing and the premium doesn't.

stop lying to people you propagandist

[LordoftheRobe]

Originally posted by GarbageCollector:

Why do people give these obvious clown-farming posts clown awards?

Unless these are always the posters' alt accounts, you guys that give these things awards do realize you're just encouraging more right?

last time you came in screaming "ITS NOT P2W" when i never stated it was. now you come in with a classic deflection because NONE of you have any proof that what you say it true especially when you can play the game yourself and see what your doing is just shilling

[GarbageCollector]

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

Originally posted by GarbageCollector:

Why do people give these obvious clown-farming posts clown awards?

Unless these are always the posters' alt accounts, you guys that give these things awards do realize you're just encouraging more right?

last time you came in screaming "ITS NOT P2W" when i never stated it was. now you come in with a classic deflection because NONE of you have any proof that what you say it true especially when you can play the game yourself and see what your doing is just shilling

???
Oh you mean in the other thread where either you or someone else (don't remember who I responded to or care enough to check) said the game has an algorithm to detect whether you've spent money and decides you'll win more often if you have? Yeah, aka better cards, lol

[LordoftheRobe]

Originally posted by GarbageCollector:

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

last time you came in screaming "ITS NOT P2W" when i never stated it was. now you come in with a classic deflection because NONE of you have any proof that what you say it true especially when you can play the game yourself and see what your doing is just shilling

???
Oh you mean in the other thread where either you or someone else (don't remember who I responded to or care enough to check) said the game has an algorithm to detect whether you've spent money and decides you'll win more often if you have? Yeah, aka better cards, lol

I never stated that and know exactly who you are talking about as it was some random who said that in the replies.

you however were screaming it about it not being p2w far before that and i got the receipts boyo

[Brother Alpha]

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

1) they do not use a random number generator. as lands and multiple of the same card would not be stacked with one another. please read what true randomness is and how mtg arena propaganda has been lying to you.

WRONG!

True randomness has clumps like this. In fact, this is how data scientists judge if a random number generator is truly random or not. They look for these clumps and if they are not there, it very likely means the data was manipulated.

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

again premium drafts have far less issues with stacked cards.

All Bo1 use the same hand smoother. It doesn't matter if you are playing limited or constructed.

[GarbageCollector]

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

Originally posted by GarbageCollector:

???
Oh you mean in the other thread where either you or someone else (don't remember who I responded to or care enough to check) said the game has an algorithm to detect whether you've spent money and decides you'll win more often if you have? Yeah, aka better cards, lol

I never stated that and know exactly who you are talking about as it was some random who said that in the replies.

you however were screaming it about it not being p2w far before that and i got the receipts boyo

I think there must be some misunderstanding because I would never say this game is not pay to win. This game is extremely pay to win. It's just obvious and in your face about it through the fact that rarer cards are often significantly better than common ones, and not some secret shuffler algorithm that manipulates you into losing if you didn't spend.

The fact that you have a little dossier on me is touching though. Didn't realize I had a fan here.

[LordoftheRobe]

Originally posted by Brother Alpha:

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

1) they do not use a random number generator. as lands and multiple of the same card would not be stacked with one another. please read what true randomness is and how mtg arena propaganda has been lying to you.

WRONG!

True randomness has clumps like this. In fact, this is how data scientists judge if a random number generator is truly random or not. They look for these clumps and if they are not there, it very likely means the data was manipulated.

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

again premium drafts have far less issues with stacked cards.

All Bo1 use the same hand smoother. It doesn't matter if you are playing limited or constructed.

no true randomness doesn't have clumps. its called random for a reason and clearly your so far in the short bus you can't even use google to stop yourself from drooling online

[Badgriuel]

Originally posted by Brother Alpha:

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

1) they do not use a random number generator. as lands and multiple of the same card would not be stacked with one another. please read what true randomness is and how mtg arena propaganda has been lying to you.

WRONG!

True randomness has clumps like this. In fact, this is how data scientists judge if a random number generator is truly random or not. They look for these clumps and if they are not there, it very likely means the data was manipulated.

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

again premium drafts have far less issues with stacked cards.

All Bo1 use the same hand smoother. It doesn't matter if you are playing limited or constructed.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Wait so if there are no clumps then it means that it was probably manipulated?

Man those must be some dumb as ♥♥♥♥ scientists. Also what's a clump? Does it have to be more than 2? Or is 2 not big enough to be called a clump. Does it have to be like 4-5 or more together for it to be a clump for you and them?

Does 3 together count as a clump?

Please tell oh so very wise and super sMaRt person.

[LordoftheRobe]

Originally posted by GarbageCollector:

Originally posted by sirsnoozel:

I never stated that and know exactly who you are talking about as it was some random who said that in the replies.

you however were screaming it about it not being p2w far before that and i got the receipts boyo

I think there must be some misunderstanding because I would never say this game is not pay to win. This game is extremely pay to win. It's just obvious and in your face about it through the fact that rarer cards are often significantly better than common ones, and not some secret shuffler algorithm that manipulates you into losing if you didn't spend.

The fact that you have a little dossier on me is touching though. Didn't realize I had a fan here.

i think there must have been cause I was very confused on why suddenly people where yelling the game isn't p2w when its worse here than hearthstone

[GoddessofEternity]

Every post copy pasted by the same five morons. I sleep.

[Winter Wolf]

Bro alpha is a bit confrontational and upfront with his thoughts (eye roll). That said the trolling on steam has lost some of its subtlety and humor. The overuse of name calling and belligerence is not preferable to wit and snark imho.