STOP WITH THE LAME ASS META BUILD LIST

[Hystaric]

Build your own decks you ♥♥♥♥ ass MTG players.

[GarbageCollector]

Diposting pertama kali oleh wly_cdgr:

The point of homecooking is not to be original, the point is to build understanding instead of chasing the quick cheap hollow rush of short term "results".

This is even more important for beginners who are beginning to take the game more seriously, sadly the group of people most likely to choose to skip this and just look up a meta deck online.

[mwesthoff]

Build a deck that beats meta decks, it's not like you don't know what cards they are using. Then your deck would become a meta deck, so what you are asking is for people to play bad decks like yours with that one good combo that never works.

[Minmataro]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Soji:

A lot of what people think is meta probably is the players own build of a shell adjusted to their own liking, but people will see a sheoldred and think its the same exact deck every single time. I run 2 tear asunder in my g/b midrange deck but i've seen plenty of list that dont run any. I see that as a pretty big change from the build but from the outside people just see mosswood dreadknight and sheoldred so it might as well be the same exact g/b deck they've seen already. This is why I find getting bent out of shape on things like netdecking silly because nothing can ever truly be unique in that case.

Asunder is common in the best of 3 variant.

[Minmataro]

Diposting pertama kali oleh GarbageCollector:

Diposting pertama kali oleh wly_cdgr:

The point of homecooking is not to be original, the point is to build understanding instead of chasing the quick cheap hollow rush of short term "results".

This is even more important for beginners who are beginning to take the game more seriously, sadly the group of people most likely to choose to skip this and just look up a meta deck online.

Doesn't matter. PLay enough you'll learn about every damn card in the format u play it. People play meta and jank all the time. if you netdeck you'll learn regardless. lets not try to gatekeep magic because yall are tired of meta decks in the queues lol.

[GarbageCollector]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Minmataro:

Doesn't matter. PLay enough you'll learn about every damn card in the format u play it. People play meta and jank all the time. if you netdeck you'll learn regardless. lets not try to gatekeep magic because yall are tired of meta decks in the queues lol.

I'm not gatekeeping anything mate, it's advice.

I'm saying that if someone that is still pretty new is looking to learn the most in the least amount of time, building something themself will give them an accelerated understanding of how the game works, why certain cards are viable, and how to use them and plan around them most efficiently. Even if you wind up essentially making the same metadeck you'd have found online in the long run (and you will), you'll have gained valuable insight.

[Drakeeper]

No.

[Soji]

Diposting pertama kali oleh GarbageCollector:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Minmataro:

Doesn't matter. PLay enough you'll learn about every damn card in the format u play it. People play meta and jank all the time. if you netdeck you'll learn regardless. lets not try to gatekeep magic because yall are tired of meta decks in the queues lol.

I'm not gatekeeping anything mate, it's advice.

I'm saying that if someone that is still pretty new is looking to learn the most in the least amount of time, building something themself will give them an accelerated understanding of how the game works, why certain cards are viable, and how to use them and plan around them most efficiently. Even if you wind up essentially making the same metadeck you'd have found online in the long run (and you will), you'll have gained valuable insight.

I don't think any of these things are mutually exclusive to the way you suggest people should learn the game at all. Its really a case of people wanting to engage in a game a different way than you think they ought to which is fine, but dont hide it behind this idea its the only real way to learn the fundamentals of mtg.

[BobbyRunout]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Soji:

Diposting pertama kali oleh GarbageCollector:

I'm not gatekeeping anything mate, it's advice.

I'm saying that if someone that is still pretty new is looking to learn the most in the least amount of time, building something themself will give them an accelerated understanding of how the game works, why certain cards are viable, and how to use them and plan around them most efficiently. Even if you wind up essentially making the same metadeck you'd have found online in the long run (and you will), you'll have gained valuable insight.

I don't think any of these things are mutually exclusive to the way you suggest people should learn the game at all. Its really a case of people wanting to engage in a game a different way than you think they ought to which is fine, but dont hide it behind this idea its the only real way to learn the fundamentals of mtg.

If you're not highly bored and irritated by having to sit through an Invasion of Alara into Bramble Familiar etc etc ad infinitum ad nauseam combo for the 35th time in a season, you're a more patient and tolerant person than me for sure.

Don't get me wrong, it's very cool the first 10 or 12 times you see it.

[GarbageCollector]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Soji:

Diposting pertama kali oleh GarbageCollector:

I'm not gatekeeping anything mate, it's advice.

I'm saying that if someone that is still pretty new is looking to learn the most in the least amount of time, building something themself will give them an accelerated understanding of how the game works, why certain cards are viable, and how to use them and plan around them most efficiently. Even if you wind up essentially making the same metadeck you'd have found online in the long run (and you will), you'll have gained valuable insight.

I don't think any of these things are mutually exclusive to the way you suggest people should learn the game at all. Its really a case of people wanting to engage in a game a different way than you think they ought to which is fine, but dont hide it behind this idea its the only real way to learn the fundamentals of mtg.

I never said that it was and if I implied that somehow it was by mistake. It's just a simple opinion: If you walk yourself through the steps that other (smarter and more experienced than you) people did to get to where they are, you frequently understand the choices they made.

It's like learning patterns in chess instead of just a string of letters and numbers to rote memorize an opening, or learning a derivation to a formula for something that allows you to understand why it works the way it does instead of trying to just memorize a massive equation.

Never meant to say it's the only way to do it. It's just an efficient way for people past the stage of "what is an end step again?" to jump to the next level.

[Migo420]

This game is an emotional/mental crutch/wheelchair for some people and it shows.

[Winter Wolf]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Migo420:

This game is an emotional/mental crutch/wheelchair for some people and it shows.

And it seems some people have yet to develop an adult sense of empathy. That said, everyone grows at different rates and there is absolutely no point in thinking everyone should be "normal" as no such thing actually exists. So if people need a game or a habit or a song or a meal to be a crutch for them, well that's their business and not mine.

[HaleTheFreeVoice]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Hystaric:

Build your own decks you ♥♥♥♥ ass MTG players.

pay to win will always exist in this game. Honestly if youre poor don't even bother with magic because there will always be that one guy with a 500 dollar deck. I used to get insanely mad about it. best thing to do is save your cards and your gold and wait to make a sweet deck or spend around 40-200 bucks hahaha. also magic player community is 500x more toxic than any community out there 60 percent of players are wildly autistic, youll survive

[HaleTheFreeVoice]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Nox:

So, just to be clear, which list exactly are you refering to? So I don't accidentally make it of course.

you could actually play the game nox instead of spending 9 autistic hours a day sitting in the discussions posts being a ♥♥♥♥ to literally everyone, in every post like garbage over here. i swear if the two of you got off these posts, stfu, and touched grass for a change youd be 90% less toxic

[Minmataro]

Diposting pertama kali oleh runicentity:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Hystaric:

Build your own decks you ♥♥♥♥ ass MTG players.

pay to win will always exist in this game. Honestly if youre poor don't even bother with magic because there will always be that one guy with a 500 dollar deck. I used to get insanely mad about it. best thing to do is save your cards and your gold and wait to make a sweet deck or spend around 40-200 bucks hahaha. also magic player community is 500x more toxic than any community out there 60 percent of players are wildly autistic, youll survive

In MTGA even the best decks can be crafted via wild cards for free. this isnt paper magic or MTGO. A tier 1 deck can be played by all. The difference between a free player and a whale are the variety of decks one has in their collection. A free player can compete easily even if they only run 3-4 meta decks. You can only play 1 deck at a time. who gives af if a whale has 80 meta decks lol.

[Soji]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Minmataro:

Diposting pertama kali oleh runicentity:

pay to win will always exist in this game. Honestly if youre poor don't even bother with magic because there will always be that one guy with a 500 dollar deck. I used to get insanely mad about it. best thing to do is save your cards and your gold and wait to make a sweet deck or spend around 40-200 bucks hahaha. also magic player community is 500x more toxic than any community out there 60 percent of players are wildly autistic, youll survive

In MTGA even the best decks can be crafted via wild cards for free. this isnt paper magic or MTGO. A tier 1 deck can be played by all. The difference between a free player and a whale are the variety of decks one has in their collection. A free player can compete easily even if they only run 3-4 meta decks. You can only play 1 deck at a time. who gives af if a whale has 80 meta decks lol.

People see the variety as an advantage which I suppose it can be, but I feel like ones who care enough about whales or netdeckers to cry online about them all the time will never reach a point to where that variety matters. Where any shift in the meta can cause just the slightest bit of edge to certain strategies and new, emerging ones that show up and whales just happen to have the cards for already. These things only really matter to people who's job is to be good at magic because any kind of advantage matters at that point. (that being said, there's been plenty of cases top level players will enter tournaments and play decks seen as 'off meta' because they are comfortable with them, compared what is seen as the best deck at the time) In the end I think a lot of people when it comes to card games care absolutely way too much on what others are doing with their time/money. Just comes off as very bitter.