Opponent starts like... 80% of times.

[Brasileiro]

Is it just me?

I'm talking about a long time of this happening.
Yesterday I started 3 match in 15 attemps. Whataf***?

[Accordinance]

Never got bothered with who starts the match.

[Brasileiro]

Should.
Today a 1-2 mana cards that gives 2-3 habilities makes a huge difference against the one with a turn behind.

[Accordinance]

In historic - maybe. Where you can get smashed in turn 3. In meta standard and alchemy I just dont feel it much. Also - you getting +1 card going second.

[magnumaniac]

Actually it is an incontrovertible statistical fact that exactly 50% of the time someone goes first, and exactly 50% of the time someone goes second.

You will have streaks of being on the play or on the draw - but because it is negatively impacting, our brains are conditioned to notice the bad streaks more.

[StuffedPlatypusLuvsOrigamiRabbit]

Originally posted by magnumaniac:

Actually it is an incontrovertible statistical fact that exactly 50% of the time someone goes first, and exactly 50% of the time someone goes second.

You will have streaks of being on the play or on the draw - but because it is negatively impacting, our brains are conditioned to notice the bad streaks more.

That's not true because I too go 2nd 80% of the time 100% of the time. So if you add my numbers to that guys numbers we are probably going 2nd around 169% of time. We are basically Arena Jesus, going 2nd so you don't have to.

[DontMisunderstand]

Something like 1.75% chance-ish to get that kind of luck. Means if you did that many matches for roughly 3 months, you'd be expected to see it happen once or twice.

Why do you care though? Drawing a card has a much larger impact on win rate than going first. Only aggro decks want to go first. Everyone else would prefer 2nd, but begrudgingly accept 1st despite it being a disadvantage.

[StuffedPlatypusLuvsOrigamiRabbit]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Drawing a card has a much larger impact on win rate than going first.

lul wut

[Dr.Chazzzzz]

Welcome to the goes second most the time club, it sucks most the time. And for the people that think you eventually even out in the long run, my tracker says other wise.

[Nubbles]

It's not just you. Everybody is on the play only 20% of the time. The numbers check out.

[Jamjars]

Among many types of rigging, the game does use turn order to try to force a 50% win rate. If you are at all above 50% on average, or about to break even in draft, kiss going first goodbye.

[九芫一]

I also almost never go first. How is this possible?

[Andrei]

You need to buy more gems. Going first correlates strongly with the amount of gems you bought in the last month.

[DontMisunderstand]

Originally posted by Debby:

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Drawing a card has a much larger impact on win rate than going first.

lul wut

To be fair, I guess that's only 100% true if you don't play aggro decks. Aggro decks want to go first. Hardcore stax decks may also want to go first to get their taxes in before the opponent plays their cards, but the basic math of the game still leans in favor of going second. Literally every other deck type wants that extra card more than it wants a single irrelevant turn cycle.

I'll put it this way. The basic math of the game tells you that going first is less advantageous than every single one of the lands in your deck coming into play untapped. And if you're familiar with that math, you'd also know the extremely tiny fractions of a percentage point we're talking about comparing the perfect manabase to just tossing in guildgates and other tapped duals and calling it good.

[Jamjars]

The cope is unreal.

Going first is a huge advantage.

[Brasileiro]

Lol.
6 times in a row.
Unistalled the game.