Magic: The Gathering Arena

Magic: The Gathering Arena

Seems like there is alot of cheap removal
Is it more than it used to be or nah?
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Berserkr Sep 21, 2023 @ 6:02pm 
Well yeah more sets more cards more removal
Namdoolb Sep 21, 2023 @ 6:06pm 
Format? (I'm going to assume standard)

Short answer: Yes.

We are currently a bit spoilt for choice as regards cheap removal. We've had (I'd estimate) a slightly higher than average volume of cheap, playable removal printed over the last couple of years. This combined with the recent changes to standard means there's a lot more available removal in the format than there usually is at this time of year.

For deckbuilding it means that you *should* never have to pick a sub-optimal removal spell: with the amount available it's a question of which removal spells you want to run. (there are a few clear "best choices" but there are many other choices that are good enough to make very little functional difference.)

From the perspective of playing the game though, you shouldn't really notice it that much. Decks were already playing enough removal 3-6 months ago, & even then had very good options. Over-saturating a deck with removal spells is actually pretty bad for the deck, so most people aren't going to do that. So whilst the specific removals in use will have changed somewhat, the amount of removal per deck won't have changed that much.
The Rusty Shack Sep 21, 2023 @ 7:34pm 
A very adult and thought out response. Thank you fellow normal person.
Soji Sep 22, 2023 @ 12:26am 
Depends on when 'used to be' is I suppose. Compared to 10 years ago? Maybe about the same amount but probably a lot better overall. We've seen the days where path to exile gets power crept and I think that's pretty wild.
Last edited by Soji; Sep 22, 2023 @ 12:27am
DontMisunderstand Sep 30, 2023 @ 12:29am 
Just how power creep works. If aggro gets better, control has to be better to not ruin the entire game. If control gets better, midrange needs to get better to challenge them. And if midrange gets better, aggro now needs to get better to outrace them. And so on, forever.

As someone whose main stint of playing MtG was between Innistrad block and Khans block... yeah, it's not even the same game. Current MtG is closer to Yugioh than it is to the MtG I used to play.
( ̄ー ̄) Sep 30, 2023 @ 1:07am 
Even with wrath of god/armageddon being legal for sooooooooooooooooo many years, it still wasn't as "Every 5-10 cards depending on the color, per set" honestly.

There was a lot of Winter Orb/Tangle Wire cards that would make everybody DESPISE you and result in 1 kavu-geddon player vs every other player. But they required a lot of other cards/setup before their mass control kicked in.
Dr.Zoidberg Sep 30, 2023 @ 7:52pm 
Not only cheap removal but plenty of exile and board wipes. Also good card draw and not only for blue, makes for a annoying combo... Spam removal and then bring in big boys. And please don't say "well don't flood board be patient." Very rarely works because then you are just too slow. Even with good deck and great draw, the removal/exile + card draw combo just wins too often.
Drakeeper Oct 1, 2023 @ 6:45pm 
You won't see me complaining about that. My favourite MtG colour is black.
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Date Posted: Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:44pm
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