MTG ARENA is rigged. Don't waste your time.

[YoM3N]

Topic.
I played MTG Arena for years and this game is not only totally overpriced if you pay for the boosters ( same price as paper version but without actual value).
No, the game itself is completely rigged, some reddit users analysed over 1 million games and proved that the matchmaking AND the shuffler is completely rigged.
Arenanet never really denied it but some very sketchy tweets more or less proved it and "allegedly" are ranked matches not rigged but i highly doubt it after 10.000 rounds~ over some years.
You are warned !

You will realise it at some pointh if you draw a card 3 times in a row every 3-4 games (if you have a winning streak it gets even worse) because they try to give casual scrubs a positiv feeling in the game with a 50/50 W/L ratio ( casuals bring the most money Stonkz ).
Or the rigged matchmaking where you get with some decks always the same enemies with the same decks that by chance counter your deck perfectly, that will happened for me 10 games in a row on the worst days.
A small example : I played an blue/white control deck that started to shine at turn 5-6 so rather slow and there were two decks completely destroying it ..... mono red and mono blue aggro I GOT 12 ROUNDS IN A ROW MONO RED AGGRO AS ENEMY ! At this point must be said mono red is always the top 1 meta deck because you can play it blindfolded 60% winrate was normal for it but, I had a 2nd main deck because i was so sick of the meta, i have build myself a W/B Control anti meta deck that completely destroyed absolute every aggro deck but will loose against slow decks so when I was to annoyed of the aggro scrubsl I switched over to my W/B Control deck and pure coincidence a miracle happened and i got the next 10 rounds in a row a perfect counter deck that normally not even was in the meta like no colour artifacts....
I played the game still because even after all this rigged bs Arenanet does, MTG is still by faaaaaaaaaaaar the best TCG game you can just start and play, Hearthstone ist just gambling without money, Yu Gi Oh is only a huge clusterfck now and HEX is great but still not enough player, sadly because it has a great pve mode too.
But that is still not the reason I finally stopped playing the game.
Over the years the cards became more and more broken because nobody knowhs why....
The biggest issue now is that absolute everything is totally pwned by aggro decks the biggest garbage players use mono red btw.
If you prefer skillfull decks like control decks or trolldecks decks where you exile your enemies whole deck step by step, mill was funny too but at some point the rotation became so bad, that everything that was no aggro decks became completely destroyed.

[Vultan]

Първоначално публикувано от YoM3N:

I highly doubt these cheesenuts will ever get the point....
THE MATCHMAKING IS RIGGED PER DECKSTRENGHT you get it now ?
The game tries to give you a 50/50 W/L ratio that means you can be the best player in the world and the rigged matchmaking will still cripple you.

Watch crokey go from 0 to mythic on a fp2 account in 10h. No codes, no tutorial packs. just random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[The Sylvan Learning Center]

I would sooner die than watch crokey go from 0 to mythic on a f2p account in 10h.

Anyways the deck strength matching is not rigged, it's just "matchmaking."

The tin foils are those who think the system pairs you with your decks "counter." That is actually serious paranoid fantasy.

[YoM3N]

Първоначално публикувано от The Sylvan Learning Center:

I would sooner die than watch crokey go from 0 to mythic on a f2p account in 10h.

Anyways the deck strength matching is not rigged, it's just "matchmaking."

The tin foils are those who think the system pairs you with your decks "counter." That is actually serious paranoid fantasy.

say this again after you got paired 10 times in a row against your hard counter deck only to switch to another deck because you are so annoyed and get few games in a row the exact hard counter deck against this deck, something every player with atleast 100 games should've experienced atleast a few times.

[The Sylvan Learning Center]

You're just being hyperbolic.


It's more interesting if the GMs are jumping into your games secretly to deliberately counter your deck.

But in reality, you just had a losing streak. It happens, life is boring.

Look up Occam's razor.

[YoM3N]

Първоначално публикувано от The Sylvan Learning Center:

You're just being hyperbolic.


It's more interesting if the GMs are jumping into your games secretly to deliberately counter your deck.

But in reality, you just had a losing streak. It happens, life is boring.

Look up Occam's razor.

What a dumb statement, as if they couldn't create an alhorhytm and have to personally make the rigged matchmaking work...

Btw I played this game for years and played atleast 800-1000 matches if not even more i got this dozens of times that was the reason i did not spent even a penny anymore in this game, sadly at the beginning I never thought WOTC would be such a greedy company and spent 120€~ in this game, if it weren't rigged it would be more.
And still ignoring all the evidence is just ignorant.
Its still just a warning, if you want to waste money like me only to get frustrated, than go for it, its your money ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[The Sylvan Learning Center]

Ok come back when you have evidence and some manners

[Tero]

Първоначално публикувано от YoM3N:

Първоначално публикувано от The Sylvan Learning Center:

You're just being hyperbolic.


It's more interesting if the GMs are jumping into your games secretly to deliberately counter your deck.

What's even more hilarious is THIS is actually more than likely the case! Guy acts like the company has no incentive to do this but they DO. I've seen it it live with my own eyes where in a draft a 3-0 player got wrecked by a precon that was impossible to draft (there were more uncommons in the deck than the packs would actually allow).

I also played this game since Beta (when it was good) and the game got worse and worse every set release. By the time I had enough (gdmed Ugin decks) I had a 33% win rate verse red blitz decks. You cannot beat them if they screw your opening hand (hint: they do) and then if you switch to a deck that beats it, you get the Ugin or ultra control decks.

I played over 10k games and I got to the point where I could predict which card the opponent would pull to win the game or when I was setup to draw a long string of lands to lose it when I had an advantage.

These a$$hat shills that have actually played the game come on here talking about math lying, knowing full well that the math in Arena doesn't work like it should in the physical card game and its not even close. The amount of 3 of kind opening hand you would get is absolutely insane compared to even a 52 card poker deck. The amount of 4 of the same cards that show up within the first 3-5 turns is even MORE insane.

I don't care about convincing the people defending this d0gsh7t game because they've obviously have some kind of stake in it or just full on crackhed tards. But hopefully, new players will play it and see all the signs of obvious BS that happens every 10 game or so cycle. Arena is so unfun it puts you in a bad mood to frustrate you to spend which will get you to win more, and usually, winning in that case isn't fun nor a proper simulation of the actual card game of MtG.

The only thing Arena is good for anymore, I find, is using Sparky as a facilitation tester for paper.

[Cwah]

some reddit users analysed over 1 million games and proved that the matchmaking AND the shuffler is completely rigged.

Please show us.

[Tero]

Първоначално публикувано от Cwah:

some reddit users analysed over 1 million games and proved that the matchmaking AND the shuffler is completely rigged.

Please show us.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/b21u3n/i_analyzed_shuffling_in_a_million_games/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hR0fhvy9LOQ&feature=share

[Brother Alpha]

Първоначално публикувано от YoM3N:

say this again after you got paired 10 times in a row against your hard counter deck ...

Citation Needed.

Първоначално публикувано от YoM3N:

something every player with atleast 100 games should've experienced atleast a few times.

This has never happened to me.

[Brother Alpha]

Първоначално публикувано от fyrAnt:

Първоначално публикувано от Cwah:

some reddit users analysed over 1 million games and proved that the matchmaking AND the shuffler is completely rigged.

Please show us.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/b21u3n/i_analyzed_shuffling_in_a_million_games/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hR0fhvy9LOQ&feature=share

You didn't read that post, did you. If you did, you would know that not only were people pointing out flaws in their 'proof', this is from a few years ago and even the poster admitted an update changed things.

[Brother Alpha]

Първоначално публикувано от YoM3N:

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THAT'S WHAT MATCHMAKING IS SUPPOSED TO DO!

Matchmaking is there so you go up against players who are as good as you are, so that you can learn to be better.

You just want to beat up newbies.

I'm glad you are not in charge at WotC.

Thank you for showing us all that you don't know what matchmaking is for .... oh boy.
Matchmaking is for MATCHING players of equal rank with each other ...

And that's what is happening. You are crying about Arena enforcing a 50% win rate. What do you think is going to happen if you rank players against equals?

That's a serious question, by the way.

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but thats where the matchmaking comes in to play, not to give bad players a safe space dafuq...

... Seriously. What do you think matchmaking is for is not to challenge skilled players AND GIVE BAD PLAYERS A SAFE PLACE TO LEARN AND IMPROVE!

[Tero]

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Първоначално публикувано от fyrAnt:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/b21u3n/i_analyzed_shuffling_in_a_million_games/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hR0fhvy9LOQ&feature=share

You didn't read that post, did you. If you did, you would know that not only were people pointing out flaws in their 'proof', this is from a few years ago and even the poster admitted an update changed things.

Obvious BS. Also i did read it. I had played the game BEFORE it released and the changes were obvious. I've played MtG since 1995. I don't care about what you or the other shills think or say. You can't debate facts presented in this manner. Just say 'oh...there's flaws...RNG...blah blah...' when thousands of players with actual experience and actual math f8king destroy u shills on boards ever single day.

[The Sylvan Learning Center]

If you don't care then go away and stop spamming your baseless speculation.

[Brother Alpha]

Първоначално публикувано от fyrAnt:

You can't debate facts presented in this manner. Just say 'oh...there's flaws...RNG...blah blah...'

It's called P-hacking. You collect a ton of data and look for anomalies. Statistic shows the more data you collect, the more likely an anomaly will show up.

This is textbook P-hacking. They collected a ton of data and looked for anomalies. One of the complaints was drawing 5-lands in a row happened happened ~60 times more often than expected out of more than 80,000 games played. If they had claimed that was a problem BEFORE gathering the data, then I would be impressed. However, when you gather this much data, you are bound to have at least a few anomalies.

And if you look at the graph, some land runs were higher than expected, others lower than expected. This is exactly what you would get from random chance.

when thousands of players with actual experience and actual math f8king destroy u shills on boards ever single day.

Two points:

1.) The plural of anecdote is not data.
2.) The math isn't on your side. You just think it is, because you don't know how statistic work.