If you only play Mono Red do you really know how to play Magic?(not a hate post)

[Minmataro]

This is not a Mono Red Hate post. A serious question. Mono Red requires next to no understanding of other cards. No preplanning, nothing. You just slash whatever the hell u have in your hand and hope for the best. If all you ever do is play like this imo you're missing out. I understand using mono red for quick wins (dailies) but other than that you should try other decks.

[AllYourToothbrushAreBelongToUs]

For grinding rank, fast decks where you fast can recognize when you win and when you lose is best. For fun, Play real magic IRL.

Nothing beats draft in fun factor.

[Minmataro]

Originally posted by AllYourToothbrushAreBelongToUs:

For grinding rank, fast decks where you fast can recognize when you win and when you lose is best. For fun, Play real magic IRL.

Nothing beats draft in fun factor.

I like the limited format. Wish WoC would rotate some premier and quick drafts for some of the historic sets though. i missed those and would like to experience them.

[Berserkr]

Originally posted by Minmataro:

I like the limited format. Wish WoC would rotate some premier and quick drafts for some of the historic sets though. i missed those and would like to experience them.

Or at least not make everything LOTR

[Accordinance]

Originally posted by Berserkr:

Originally posted by Accordinance:

Its nearly not possible to have a totally dominating deck in this game and matchmaking never gonna let you win with 100% winrate. You will always gonna wn/loose with 50/50 at best with any deck - be it monored aggro, or toxics, or controls, or multicolor megacombouberdeck, whatever.
Try monoreds - you'll get the idea.

Then how do you explain people who are at the top rank on the ladder? You sure as hell ain't getting there with a 50% win rate

Dont take it that straight. 50/50 - is a relative balance numbers for average player. Dont you agree that game have adaptive matchmaking? But you always may rely on your luck or skill. Or spend some money to have better cards then average player mass.
There are many bad players also, who increases your chances to win.
Im counting myself as average beginner.
Beyond that - its like I said.

[PJ]

Originally posted by Accordinance:

Originally posted by Berserkr:

Then how do you explain people who are at the top rank on the ladder? You sure as hell ain't getting there with a 50% win rate

Dont take it that straight. 50/50 - is a relative balance numbers for average player. Dont you agree that game have adaptive matchmaking? But you always may rely on your luck or skill. Or spend some money to have better cards then average player mass.
There are many bad players also, who increases your chances to win.
Im counting myself as average beginner.
Beyond that - its like I said.

Oh so now suddenly player skill determines who wins and not the rigged shuffler, but also you're still holding on to the claim that the shuffler forces a 50% win rate. So not only have you failed to explain how players get the win streaks required to hit top ranks, while other players never make it out of silver, but you've also contradicted your own claim by admitting player skill plays a factor in those win streaks. You just lose more every time you post.

[Drakeeper]

Depends. I'd say you do, it's still based on MtG mechanics, specifically the part where you turn creatures sideways and point spells at your opponent's face. I just personally find that kind of deck extremely boring to play and pretty much a one-trick pony, so you definitely wouldn't find me playing that kind of deck these days.

Big red with big payoffs, however, I'm definitely game for that.

[PJ]

Originally posted by Darkeeper:

Big red with big payoffs, however, I'm definitely game for that.

With stuff like All Will Be One around, it's a good time for Big Red decks.

[mwesthoff]

Since reading this; I have created a red deck and made it to mythic. I have beaten players as high as #54, but I'm not using either of the current red meta decks. I did have a losing streak one click before mythic that saw me lose eight times in a row and draw some of the most useless hands possible, but then I figured out what had been causing my win/lose streaks with the shuffler and match ups and I started avoiding the lose streaks and playing the win streaks.

[LoLetto]

Totally agree and been saying this before. If you just throw everything on your hand and gain a win by doing so, it means the game that meant to be strategic failed at being strategic.

[Livermush]

When you play a deck, you learn all the likely matchups. Just because Red is non-reactive doesn't mean the gameplay doesn't change against certain archetypes

[Minmataro]

Originally posted by Livermush:

When you play a deck, you learn all the likely matchups. Just because Red is non-reactive doesn't mean the gameplay doesn't change against certain archetypes

Eh its doesnt really. Its more of a RNG luck based way of playing. your skill wont matter with that deck. You're relying on the perfect hand and going wide before your OP can get ♥♥♥♥ on the board. if u cant do that you're dead because mono red cant do ♥♥♥♥ once the op has removal in hand and other creatures get on the board. If u do have ways to deal with all that you arent playing mono red thats red control.

[PJ]

If you only play mono blue control, do you really know how to play the game?

[Nanaki]

I do have a Red/black deck, uses a lot of the 'mono red' type tactics but it does get boring after a while...

[Minmataro]

Originally posted by PJ:

If you only play mono blue control, do you really know how to play the game?

Yeah. Control decks require you to solve problems in a game. Red just blasts down creatures and burns. U may think blue is just tossing counters out but u can easily play blue wrong. Red... not so much.

No im not a control player. blue and other control decks annoy me as well.

[PJ]

Originally posted by Minmataro:

Originally posted by PJ:

If you only play mono blue control, do you really know how to play the game?

Yeah. Control decks require you to solve problems in a game. Red just blasts down creatures and burns. U may think blue is just tossing counters out but u can easily play blue wrong. Red... not so much.

No im not a control player. blue and other control decks annoy me as well.

Not really. You just play your threat removers after the opponent plays threats, then drop a bomb on turn 8. Control isn't that complicated.